PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

The Henry Winter take on why City have still not been punished as fast as Everton and Forest had Roy Keane saying there is no way they can be found guilty if City are found innocent. Also, the press claim we are on trial, I don't seem to remember them using that term for the other clubs.
Wouldn't be surprised to hear that they've made Khaldoon try on OJ Simpsons gloves, at some point.
Desperate times...
 
At the back of my mind, I keep telling myself that if they had any doubts at all that we will be fine, surely the stadium development wouldn’t have started
When this broke last year pep asked for assurances from khaldoon. Didn’t he say something like if they’ve lied to me I will no longer be their friends and I won’t be here tomorrow? Well hes still here and looks more energised than ever! And khaldoon does not seem the lying type to me!
 
Just like BBC United, the Daily United is a Rag and Scouse infested media company.

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No surprise it's from a Liverpool fan. Note the the green and red likes and dislikes, 3 to 1.

The football media have done a sterling job on behalf of the PL and the red shirt clubs.

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Martin, Alice and Pie are all a bunch of fucking thickies. The sort of people that have shit for brains and never do any of their own research. Just hear a few soundbites and that's their facts sorted out.
 
I do fear it's going to be a stitch up and they'll want to appease the outpouring of anger. So no matter what evidence we provide, and with it being on the balance of probabilities, they'll move to the side of us being guilty of some of it.

It should be a proper independent court with recourse to the English courts. Not some poxy panel who will be influenced by the league, other clubs, their own bias and what's in the media.
This. It’s a kangaroo court!
 
When this broke last year pep asked for assurances from khaldoon. Didn’t he say something like if they’ve lied to me I will no longer be their friends and I won’t be here tomorrow? Well hes still here and looks more energised than ever! And khaldoon does not seem the lying type to me!
Even Wenger likes Khaldoon and said he was an honest man.

 
It'll all calm down in a few days.

Then it'll flare up again when/if Forest and Everton get punished.
Rinse and repeat.

I'm bored of reading,and hearing the same nonsense from opposition fans and a bunch of dicks in the media pandering to them.
Plenty of the media are making some nice money out of generating hysteria amongst largely(willfully) ignorant football fans,so it'll run and run.

The fact that City's hearing has been sort of kicked into the long grass has been as much of a curse as a blessing.
Bang on! The media don't give a fuck one way or the other as long as they profit from hysterical fans. They constantly use sensational headlines (with the word CITY in it) to appeal to a particular audience or fan's emotions. Blurring the lines between fact and opinion as usual - cnnts.
 
I made an X/Twitter post about this attaching “the Arsenal letter” today. The responses have shocked me. The absolute lack of brain power, and the hatred this club has generated, is mind blowing. 115, dirty, cheats, you will get found out, you will see, relegated, thieves, oil cheats. Countless.

If/When we win this case, the PL will collapse. I see no other way around it. It will have to change into something else, other management figures, different regulations, different application.

The end game is near.
 
The charges against Everton and Forest mark the beginning of the self immolation of the Premier League…… they’ve introduced these profit and sustainability rules just to satisfy the cartel clubs. What will happen is as follows :-

1. League will enforce fines and points deductions for breaching their new rules
2. ⁠Clubs will shit themselves at the sanctions and will cut back on transfer spending and wages.
3. ⁠The best players will stop signing for English clubs and will start to play in other European leagues.
4. ⁠The quality of the league will drop.
5. ⁠TV and sponsors will reduce the money they put in
6. ⁠The league will become second rate as the commercial appeal falls


But at least United and Liverpool will be able to win again…… well done you pair of selfish cunts !!!
 
Yes 10 points is far too harsh for concrete admissions of overspending written in black and white in their accounts yet they want us thrown out of the league system altogether & title’s stripped for unproven alleged indiscretions from as far back as 2009. What have we done wrong? You’ve cheated? How? You just have.

10 points does seem a lot. maybe they should have started lower allowing scope to increase the points on repeat offences. or maybe suspend some of the points.

With the exception of Sunderland, I can't think of a club, in recent times anyway, who have moved into a new stadium and gone backwards.

Undoubtedly, Everton, have only themselves to blame for breaking the rules (whatever we might think of the rules) but, if they get two x 10 point punishments in the same season, they would more than likely be relegated.
The 10 point punishment was pretty much what was recommended by Masters.

Having seen the relevant trajectories of say, City and United after we moved to Eastlands, you'd have to think that relegating Everton and hampering their growth would suit Liverpool, one of only two clubs, who infamously interviewed Masters before his appointment.

Admittedly, this theory is possibly one for the tin foil hat brigade but fuck it, aren't we all neary driven demented at this stage. :-) That said, nothing would surprise me where FSG are concerned.
 
With the exception of Sunderland, I can't think of a club, in recent times anyway, who have moved into a new stadium and gone backwards.

Undoubtedly, Everton, have only themselves to blame for breaking the rules (whatever we might think of the rules) but, if they get two x 10 point punishments in the same season, they would more than likely be relegated.
The 10 point punishment was pretty recommended by Masters.

Having seen the relevant trajectories of say, City and United after we moved to Eastlands, you'd have to think that relegating Everton and hampering their growth would suit Liverpool, one of only two clubs, who infamously interviewed Masters before his appointment.

Admittedly, this theory is possibly one for the tin foil hat brigade but fuck it, aren't we all neary driven demented at this stage. :-) That said, nothing would surprise me where FSG are concerned.
Darlington’s move nearly finished them as a club.

Derby and Reading aren’t doing particularly well.
 
I made an X/Twitter post about this attaching “the Arsenal letter” today. The responses have shocked me. The absolute lack of brain power, and the hatred this club has generated, is mind blowing. 115, dirty, cheats, you will get found out, you will see, relegated, thieves, oil cheats. Countless.

If/When we win this case, the PL will collapse. I see no other way around it. It will have to change into something else, other management figures, different regulations, different application.

The end game is near.
The premier league won’t bloody collapse, don’t be so dramatic and silly
 
It explains that City’s case and Everton & Forests are different, both in scope and timeline, and the reason for the near term punishments is they are near term exceedances to which the PL teams had agreed. City’s is a historical claim related to past supposed indiscretions that are not only different in scope and scale, but time…as in they pre-date the the PSR under which Everton & Forest are being charged.

In short, it explains the irony that FFP was introduced to STOP CITY (and PSG) from crashing the UEFA Cartel Party, but was unsuccessful and now City ARE part of the Cartel, at least in terms of our record breaking revenues, so these rules will never ensnare us while catching clubs of the same profile as City in the 2006-2010 period of ownership transition and spend to improve!

It is only now, I think, that some City fans are starting to realize just how important the Top 4, the Champions League, and repeatedly getting to the latter stages of it, have been to the Club.

The revenue generated just from going deep is a regular €100M pay day. Then, you get to “inflate” your current Commercial Revenues and generate significantly more due to the global success of the competition.

For example, using numbers pulled from my arse, the sleeve sponsor stops being a €5M sponsor and becomes a €10M sponsor. Your game shirt main sponsor becomes a €50M/yr sponsor instead of a €15M/yr sponsor, and so on…

In short, CL success, combined with PL success, coupled with a high profile manager and a few superstar players, has created a commercial juggernaut that has grown exponentially rather than incrementally, and put us at the zenith of financial sustainability.

From here, we don’t need massive growth to be able to compete for everything, we just need to sustain our level of income from outside sources.

Soon, you may also be able to add an event venue and hotel to that mix, as well as another 5,000 seasoncards!

For most “average” clubs, maintaining PL status keeps them ticking along nicely, and the parachute payments help the yo-yo clubs stay competitive.

However, for the Top 6 or 8 clubs vying for the title, a domestic trophy, or European qualification, the commercial rewards from those things might mean the difference between viability and an FFP/PSR violation! The trick is to try to qualify BEFORE you spend like you already have. This is the problem Chelsea might face and, were the Glazer’s not usurping the concept through debt , United’s CL demise would exacerbate.

I’m not opposed to clubs being run in a conservative manner, but I am opposed to club’s not being allowed to accept significant financial inputs from either owners or outsiders. It’s how British clubs traditionally grew, and is certainly how the current elite teams became who they are!

Brilliant thx for the explanation & the best article the athletic has written.

I suppose they didn’t mention in the CAS case for context no evidence of wrong doing.
 

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