24 | Joško Gvardiol - 2023/24

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r.soleofsalford said:
I can see his mistakes but I can see his quality also. I guess that comes with being 21 in your 1st season in one of the most demanding leagues in the world and under one if not thee most technically demanding manager in the world.
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I'm not sure why he's being questioned, but that's the nature of this forum. He's clearly a brilliant player with a great technique and vision for a pass from the back and you have to reiterate his age. We signed Stones when he was 22 with a lot of promise but also some question marks over his physicality and the occasional error. It took a fair while for him to iron out those issues and become the exceptional player he was always tipped to become. He's 29 now. Gvardiol is certainly a better player at 21 than Stones was at that age in my opinion, so I'm comfortable.
 
supercity88 said:
I'm not sure why he's being questioned, but that's the nature of this forum. He's clearly a brilliant player with a great technique and vision for a pass from the back and you have to reiterate his age. We signed Stones when he was 22 with a lot of promise but also some question marks over his physicality and the occasional error. It took a fair while for him to iron out those issues and become the exceptional player he was always tipped to become. He's 29 now. Gvardiol is certainly a better player at 21 than Stones was at that age in my opinion, so I'm comfortable.
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Some folk are weird I have a friend, a match going fan both home and away for decades.

To listen to him Gundogan, KDB were too timid, in fact nobody other than Bernardo was beyond reproach.

There are some strange people out there.
Sorry Bob if you are reading this but you are 8-)
 
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Middedon said:
A gripe for the three Gvardiol fans on this page. Listened to a City podcast this morning (why?, most of the time these leave me irritated). According to the hosts, Gvardiol apparently “still doesn’t get it” and “needs coaching.” They referenced Pep giving him instruction during and after the Newcastle game. He’s one of the youngest people on the team - why is the fact he needs coaching a negative?!? Meanwhile when Bobb, who’s only 18 mos younger, gets coaching it’s because “Pep realizes how important he is.” (And Bobb probably needs less coaching because he’s far more familiar with the system being an academy kid). The same thing happens to Doku. When he was playing well, it was all “look how young he is.” But after not playing as well, suddenly no mention that he might need some time to mature/grow into the team.
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which podcast was it?

there’s a huge gvardiol and grealish are flops agenda on social media at the moment, mostly man united, chelsea and arsenal fans but many city fans agree with them.

transfer window is still open, plenty of time for a last minute txiki masterclass in you’re a flop, off you pop!
 
vanchi said:
which podcast was it?

there’s a huge gvardiol and grealish are flops agenda on social media at the moment, mostly man united, chelsea and arsenal fans but many city fans agree with them.

transfer window is still open, plenty of time for a last minute txiki masterclass in you’re a flop, off you pop!
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Laughable propaganda. Coming from United, Chelsea, and Arsenal as well, haha. Last time I checked, all of them were behind us, so whatever they got is worse. Much worse than Josko, that's for sure.
 
I think any “expensive” player who isn’t an out and out goal scorer always has an uphill climb with fans. That’s why he’s now lumped in with Grealish. At least thats what I’ve noticed during my six months slumming about in City forums.

I see so many City fans bemoaning he’s our most expensive defender (like he doesn’t deserve to be), but that’s really a result of the market…and his age. If we put all our defenders up for sale today for a year (so essentially adjusting for age), he’d probably be the cheapest.

And yes, I don’t really get the other teams pushing the flop narrative (mostly Chelsea it seems?). He would still be a regular starter most places. And the whole “no one is talking about what a flop he is”…they should come over to our match day forums!
 
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Personally think he oozes quality. He’s genuinely two footed and plays some really interesting and imaginative balls.
His main fault, for me. It’s common with a couple of our players on occasion. He can be too complacent. His talent is huge and I think sometimes he’s guilty of underestimating the league/opposition.

Next year, think we’ll see a real beast
 
schfc6 said:
Personally think he oozes quality. He’s genuinely two footed and plays some really interesting and imaginative balls.
His main fault, for me. It’s common with a couple of our players on occasion. He can be too complacent. His talent is huge and I think sometimes he’s guilty of underestimating the league/opposition.

Next year, think we’ll see a real beast
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For me He does not do enough off the ball running if treated as a left back or in a Stones role. But it is not his fault...CB is not trained for that.

I still think that if we bring in a left back he will benefit more than others.
 
He's a mixed bag, for sure... but I love that he doesn't ever seem to lose confidence. A couple of shaky moments defensively, but on the whole, he kept his side completely quiet.
 
Had a good look at him since signing.

For me, definitely not a left back, especially in a Pep team as not good enough on the ball and doesn’t have that “threaded pass” intelligence.

Cracking defensively though. I’d play him left sided CB if it were my team.
 
I think he's going to be great for us, but at the moment is just trying too hard to impress, trying to force the play too much causing him to give the ball away. His decision making isn't quite where it needs to be just yet but it will come.
 
Stoned Rose said:
Had a good look at him since signing.

For me, definitely not a left back, especially in a Pep team as not good enough on the ball and doesn’t have that “threaded pass” intelligence.

Cracking defensively though. I’d play him left sided CB if it were my team.
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Gvardiol and Stones would be my starting CB's, unless Akanji is fit.
 
the amount of crap that was written about him in the match thread was record breaking.

it was an unbelievable ocean of verbal diarrhoea. classy af. i actually feel sorry for him, less than 6 months and so so so much hate from so many city fans.

but! there’s still hope, transfer season is not over, there’s still time for a petition, maybe a crowdfunding event to send him home on some cheap flight.
 
vanchi said:
the amount of crap that was written about him in the match thread was record breaking.

it was an unbelievable ocean of verbal diarrhoea. classy af. i actually feel sorry for him, less than 6 months and so so so much hate from so many city fans.

but! there’s still hope, transfer season is not over, there’s still time for a petition, maybe a crowdfunding event to send him home on some cheap flight.
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The match thread is full of fucking loons, nobody serious is on there when a game is on.

He's not a LB though, Pep is integrating him into the team in his first season.
 
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