Ref Watch City Games - 2023/24

Trevor Morley's Tache said:
With Sky, perhaps that is the case, but the BBC (and others) are a different matter entirely. They shy away from contentious incidents every fcuking week in their highlights packages. GAME CHANGING incidents that just 'never happened'. It's almost inexplicable unless you consider it's a deliberate effort to control the narrative.
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The trouble is that what a fan of a particular club considers a highly contentious issue gone against them, is often neither here nor there to a neutral.

If say eight teams lose on a Saturday, fans of all of them will be outraged about at least two decisions on average.

They’ve got to leave a bit of time for the football.

When you get an incident like the Newcastle penalty on Saturday. Which everyone would acknowledge as contentious, they spent longer talking about that than they did showing some of the actual games.
 
Here's a thought. The handball/elbow/shirt pulling in the dying seconds.
The ref knows that if he gives that and City score (and win) he will be attacked mercilessly by Sky and the rest of the media.
It is far easier for him, Var and Pigmob to ignore it.
And that, without any brown envelopes, is corruption.
 
the-ecstacy-of-eight said:
Take any of our penalty appeals from yesterday and compare those to ANY of the penalties that Jota has won for the dippers over the last two seasons.
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Jota is absolutely a cheating diving shitstain of a footballer
 
Blue Mist said:
Here's a thought. The handball/elbow/shirt pulling in the dying seconds.
The ref knows that if he gives that and City score (and win) he will be attacked mercilessly by Sky and the rest of the media.
It is far easier for him, Var and Pigmob to ignore it.
And that, without any brown envelopes, is corruption.
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That’s exactly it. The fall out from that being awarded would have been outrage that once again City get looked after.

Unlike teams back in the changing rooms coming back out for a penalty for the Rags all those years ago….
 
bluenova said:
Maybe - but I don't think it's a penalty.

Imagine Walker as the defender, and Sterling the attacker. You'd 100% expect a foul against Walker.

Walker is slightly behind Sterling, he's the one further from the ball, stretches, isn't close to getting a touch on the ball, and trips Sterling.
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Eden Hazard used to do this shit all of the time. Foul given every time. Pen for me.
 
lasereyes said:
Sorry bud these are flat earth arguments.
Stoppage time - Ref is looking directly at the incident.
Walker: clearly kicked by Sterling
Doku stamped on by Caicedo: ref a few yards away looking directly at it again. And after that, he had a boatload more fouls.
Everton injury time: in no world was there 6 mins more stoppages than Sat. Plus how can/why should Everton benefit from Pickford's time wasting?
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The ball was in between bodies, so it would have been impossible to see the handball.

Walker stuck his leg out in front of Sterling, initiated contact and tripped Sterling.

Godfrey went down for about 5 mins on his own with concussion in the Everton match. That’s the fundamental reason for the difference in time added on.

Your last question is an interesting one. Ultimately, if a team time wastes before starting to lose, then that time will naturally be added up.

What would have happened if the ref had said 3 mins to negate their time wasting, but they managed to equalise in those minutes?

Then their time wasting should be added back on.
 
Blue Mist said:
Here's a thought. The handball/elbow/shirt pulling in the dying seconds.
The ref knows that if he gives that and City score (and win) he will be attacked mercilessly by Sky and the rest of the media.
It is far easier for him, Var and Pigmob to ignore it.
And that, without any brown envelopes, is corruption.
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But all of this doesn't seem to stop them from awarding injury time penalties to certain other teams, I even remember one team being awarded a penalty AFTER the final whistle!
 
Stephen230 said:
The trouble is that what a fan of a particular club considers a highly contentious issue gone against them, is often neither here nor there to a neutral.

If say eight teams lose on a Saturday, fans of all of them will be outraged about at least two decisions on average.

They’ve got to leave a bit of time for the football.

When you get an incident like the Newcastle penalty on Saturday. Which everyone would acknowledge as contentious, they spent longer talking about that than they did showing some of the actual games.
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I'm talking about potential GAME CHANGING events. The deliberate kick out at Ederson's head last week is a case in point. Airbrushed from history.
 
BringBackSwales said:
I haven’t watched the game back and won’t do as it pisses me off

What I would say is that my view from the game was -

3 mins h1 and 4 mins half 2 injury time was woefully inadequate. H2 there were var reviews, plenty of subs and amazing amounts of chelsea time wasting. Arsenal or Liverpool would have got 5 or 6 mins h1 and 8 to 10 mins h2. It’s clear, like Newcastle away, we don’t get injury time like they do. It’s bent

Chelsea should have had 2 pens v Liverpool and Brentford 1, neither got any and Chelsea’s first was at 0 0. Bent

We should have had 2 pens yesterday - both at my end of the ground, both neither Madley or Banks were ever going to give us, both would have been given to the dippers

We are being deliberately and systematically fucked over by refs and the red clubs are favoured. PL heads have admitted what’s best for the brand, and it ain’t us

united winning the prem year after year is apparently good for the product, as is Chelsea winning the WSL every year. Us winning it is not

The only big club to get financially scrutinised and fucked over is us. Rags fail it and get fuck all punishment, Liverpool fail it and get fuck all punishment, Liverpool illegally hack and get fuck all punishment? Liverpool have 75% asthmatics and nothing is said

Football is bent as fuck
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Plus another for good luck
 
There's just far too much that can be manipulated by the official these days.

Stoppage time has been added to that this year. We seem to get a rough deal with that because we have the ball in play more than any other team.

If a ref doesn't give a red card, the bar for overturn is too high, but again that can be manipulated depending on how they are feeling that day

If the ref does give a pen or red card, they don't have the bollocks to overturn because they don't want to undermine the referee. So the bar for a given penalty or red card to be overturned is impossibly high if they can spot any slight contact anywhere(in a contact sport)
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
I'm talking about potential GAME CHANGING events. The deliberate kick out at Ederson's head last week is a case in point. Airbrushed from history.
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Perfect example of my point.

Some City fans think it was borderline GBH and can’t understand why anything else is even being discussed for a week, it was that serious.

Yet outside of City, a large percentage of people seem to think it was something and nothing.

While they’re raging about a GAME CHANGING incident in their game, that a lot of City fans saw and instantly forgot all about.
 
Stephen230 said:
Perfect example of my point.

Some City fans think it was borderline GBH and can’t understand why anything else is even being discussed for a week, it was that serious.

Yet outside of City, a large percentage of people seem to think it was something and nothing.

While they’re raging about a GAME CHANGING incident in their game, that a lot of City fans saw and instantly forgot all about.
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Was the incriminating angle shown on the broadcast? I don't remember it, tbh. I thought it was just a coming together at the time and only saw the "horizontal stamp" later on social media. Other fans won't be micro-analysing our games if it isn't handed to them by the broadcaster. That's normal.
 
Stephen230 said:
Perfect example of my point.

Some City fans think it was borderline GBH and can’t understand why anything else is even being discussed for a week, it was that serious.

Yet outside of City, a large percentage of people seem to think it was something and nothing.

While they’re raging about a GAME CHANGING incident in their game, that a lot of City fans saw and instantly forgot all about.
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Wait, you’re saying fans of other clubs claim a deliberate kick in the face is something and nothing and therefore we are wrong?

Well fancy that. Certainly no shock that that’s the way you’re looking at it. God forbid you finally come to the realisation that we have been on the end of some awful refereeing after spending so much time denying it.

The fact other teams have also been done over this weekend to the benefit of the usual suspects is just the luck of the draw.
 
Stephen230 said:
Perfect example of my point.

Some City fans think it was borderline GBH and can’t understand why anything else is even being discussed for a week, it was that serious.

Yet outside of City, a large percentage of people seem to think it was something and nothing.

While they’re raging about a GAME CHANGING incident in their game, that a lot of City fans saw and instantly forgot all about.
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Whether the contact constitutes 'GBH' or not, you could see the CLEAR intent (violent conduct) which is the threshold for a red card. Some punters spouting shite about him 'not knowing where the ball was' is just bollocks. The player CERTAINLY knew where Eddie's head was.

The point still stands - it WAS airbrushed. Had it been Foden on Pickford, they'd still be banging on about it.
 
Phil1 said:
Wait, you’re saying fans of other clubs claim a deliberate kick in the face is something and nothing and therefore we are wrong?

Well fancy that. Certainly no shock that that’s the way you’re looking at it. God forbid you finally come to the realisation that we have been on the end of some awful refereeing after spending so much time denying it.

The fact other teams have also been done over this weekend to the benefit of the usual suspects is just the luck of the draw.
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No mate, you have no idea how I’m looking at the incident. As I haven’t offered an opinion on it. As I consciously haven’t for virtually any decision involving City this season.

But it seems I don’t need to express an opinion for you to know how I’m thinking.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
Whether the contact constitutes 'GBH' or not, you could see the CLEAR intent (violent conduct) which is the threshold for a red card. Some punters spouting shite about him 'not knowing where the ball was' is just bollocks. The player CERTAINLY knew where Eddie's head was.

The point still stands - it WAS airbrushed. Had it been Foden on Pickford, they'd still be banging on about it.
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Ever since the other guy highlighted your seemingly random capitalisation of certain words, I’ve become a bit obsessed with trying to work out some sort of pattern to it.
 
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