PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

the plasterer said:
What's happening??, can't be arsed reading back thru all the pages, we been relegated yet??, if so, what league and who's our new grudge match ??
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Well, I can state with 10,000% certainty that won't occur. Whenever legally speaking, these charges are, of course, inaccurate, bogus and fraudulent. More and more, the general public perceives our Club as innocent. City will have our time in court to eventually triumph over these troubles.
 
Keeper! said:
116 incoming from the HMRC sorry to say

When asked if he lived in an area where Guardiola and other Manchester City players were staying, Nolito explained: “Yes, in the very centre. Manchester is not a very big city, huh. The only thing is, well, at four it’s already night!”

The Spainard also revealed his friends from Vigo had smuggled food into England when they visited him in Manchester.

“Ah, well, some sailor friends of mine from Vigo showed up… With five kilos of goose barnacles. An entire suitcase full of seafood, octopus… I don’t even know how they could get that through customs (laughs). Then David Silva came home for dinner and we ate it all. In the glory,” he added.

Our players are also contraband smugglers, we are totaly @ucked.
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When the Roux brothers opened up in London, they smuggled stuff in from Paris. They said later that customs had got a nod and a wink from parliament as MPs were enthusiastic customers. They were never stopped.
 
Keeper! said:
116 incoming from the HMRC sorry to say

When asked if he lived in an area where Guardiola and other Manchester City players were staying, Nolito explained: “Yes, in the very centre. Manchester is not a very big city, huh. The only thing is, well, at four it’s already night!”

The Spainard also revealed his friends from Vigo had smuggled food into England when they visited him in Manchester.

“Ah, well, some sailor friends of mine from Vigo showed up… With five kilos of goose barnacles. An entire suitcase full of seafood, octopus… I don’t even know how they could get that through customs (laughs). Then David Silva came home for dinner and we ate it all. In the glory,” he added.

Our players are also contraband smugglers, we are totaly @ucked.
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Our concierge service should be replaced. Didn't anyone think to tell Nolito & Silva about the Arndale market fish stall? Or is the Arndale too downmarket for PL ballers?
 
manimanc said:
Apparently Everton could get half a point back through co-operation.
Half a point?

Who the funk is making this shit up?

I find it highly suspicious that the Premier League is mirroring the rags in how they run things.
Scattergun approach.
Ridiculous statements.
Being run like a soup sandwich.

Deloony has just kind of mentioned us in not so many words but more to do with the farce of these points deductions and how nothing has been said by the Premier League to keep everyone up to date.
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Good point third para..
The rags seem to have recognized their own faults by getting Sir Jim and Omar B to run them like a proper business. Not on the Mr K level of course but a recognition of City Management quality.
The PL has Mr M to organize who was chosen to carry out policy decided by a trio including the rags.
Scatter gun is correct but surely rules should apply to all.

The point is that because City are capable of flexibility to adsorb ever changing City targeted rules, other Clubs are not especially when their income streams are stretched by Covid restrictions.
 
KS55 said:
When the Roux brothers opened up in London, they smuggled stuff in from Paris. They said later that customs had got a nod and a wink from parliament as MPs were enthusiastic customers. They were never stopped.
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Likes a barnickle does Charles

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It's important to remember that even though Everton have been punished twice in the same season the punishment is for breaches in two different seasons. As it's also a three year rolling calculation the previous breaches will impact - you can't reset the breach clock as otherwise Everton could have bought Messi, Neymar, Rashford etc been in a massive breach - the breach figure could be reset and another 3 years start fresh but then they get a three year advantage of having Rashford scoring 7 league goals until they hit their three year limit and are in breach again.

The problem Everton had is delaying the outcome of the first breach charge. If it had been dealt with in the following season then Everton would have known how much they'd need to raise in order to not breach again.

It's interesting to me at least that when we claim the FFP rules were unfair we are told "you signed up to them so that is on you" yet Everton etc are being met mainly with sympathy and outrage against the EPL.

It's also really unbelievably important to repeatedly stress that City have not been charged with breaching the same rules as Everton or Nottingham Forest. It's also possible (or at least it should be) for the EPL to conduct more than one investigation. Assume though that it can't and it has to deal with one thing at a time AND City's charges have to be dealt with before Everton's breaches. Can you imagine the meltdown in 5 years time when the league takes 6 points off Everton for breaches 7 seasons previous?

The biggest problem of all that I think is evidenced by the absolute ill informed opinions being spouted around the place is that most people are incredibly short sighted and the rules are being changed reactively to counter teams like City and Newcastle and the perceived way they will receive funds. Everyone seems to know this so Everton and Chelsea etc probably assume they would never be found in breach - this is probably also why the clubs didn't have punishments already in place (why would they as the rules would only catch City and Newcastle). It's also why City are still being accused of breaching rules that we haven't even been charged with (IE PSR).

The whole thing is so obviously stupid but people are so committed to their own bias that the only way they can express themselves is by shouting louder and louder "what about City?" like it is any way relevant
 
mrbelfry said:
It's important to remember that even though Everton have been punished twice in the same season the punishment is for breaches in two different seasons. As it's also a three year rolling calculation the previous breaches will impact - you can't reset the breach clock as otherwise Everton could have bought Messi, Neymar, Rashford etc been in a massive breach - the breach figure could be reset and another 3 years start fresh but then they get a three year advantage of having Rashford scoring 7 league goals until they hit their three year limit and are in breach again.

The problem Everton had is delaying the outcome of the first breach charge. If it had been dealt with in the following season then Everton would have known how much they'd need to raise in order to not breach again.

It's interesting to me at least that when we claim the FFP rules were unfair we are told "you signed up to them so that is on you" yet Everton etc are being met mainly with sympathy and outrage against the EPL.

It's also really unbelievably important to repeatedly stress that City have not been charged with breaching the same rules as Everton or Nottingham Forest. It's also possible (or at least it should be) for the EPL to conduct more than one investigation. Assume though that it can't and it has to deal with one thing at a time AND City's charges have to be dealt with before Everton's breaches. Can you imagine the meltdown in 5 years time when the league takes 6 points off Everton for breaches 7 seasons previous?

The biggest problem of all that I think is evidenced by the absolute ill informed opinions being spouted around the place is that most people are incredibly short sighted and the rules are being changed reactively to counter teams like City and Newcastle and the perceived way they will receive funds. Everyone seems to know this so Everton and Chelsea etc probably assume they would never be found in breach - this is probably also why the clubs didn't have punishments already in place (why would they as the rules would only catch City and Newcastle). It's also why City are still being accused of breaching rules that we haven't even been charged with (IE PSR).

The whole thing is so obviously stupid but people are so committed to their own bias that the only way they can express themselves is by shouting louder and louder "what about City?" like it is any way relevant
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City have been accused by the PL of breaching P&S regulations for seasons 2015/16, 2016/17, and 2017/18. 25 rule breaches across those three seasons.
 
Ballymagash Blue said:
City have been accused by the PL of breaching P&S regulations for seasons 2015/16, 2016/17, and 2017/18. 25 rule breaches across those three seasons.
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But thats the madness how do you accuse someone of breaching figures, figures are finite, they are black and white, they either did or they did not and its easy to prove one way or the other
 
Dribble said:
I doubt the PL wanted to start down this road after our appeal was successful at CAS in 2020. However, it's quite evident that it's the Red Top Mafia & Spuds who were pushing for the PL to come after us, regardless of how spurious our alleged breaches were.

Ultimately the PL obeyed their masters & opened the investigation, which I bet they were hoping they could draw out long enough so it would quietly fizzle out with everyone forgetting about it, until the government announced the setting up of IREF in February 2023.

This put the cat amongst the pigeons, & forced the PL into hastily cobbling together the 115 breaches to come at us with. They rushed it that much that they didn't even get the breach sections correct, as one of the allegations was our grass being too long!

They made the corrections, but now they're faced with making the breaches stick, when it seems pretty obvious to all neutrals in the know, that they're struggling to make a coherent case out of it.

As UEFA found out, supposition & opinion may count when you're running a private members clubs, where you create the rules & are judge, jury & executioner, but when legal standards are applied, it's the law of the land which takes prominence over their silly, biased rules, hence why they're shitting it about losing face like UEFA did.

It beggars belief they've even had the cheek to come at us with the same crap that UEFA had thrown out at CAS, but yet here we are...
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This is so clearly the case - that some argue in a pedantic manner to try and justify the PL's actions is quite astonishing - I guess some just like to argue for the sake of arguing
 
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