Dangerous Dogs

Are pitbulls okay as well?
Okay in what way?
If you are asking me if I would categorise pitbulls alongside other breeds then yes. As I have said many times, any large breed has the capacity to inflict serious injury and even death. Ownership is the key factor - who is breeding, who is owning, and why.
I have a lot of breed experience and worked in dog rescue.
 
So many changes need to be made these incidents are horrendous
I’ve had 4 different dogs, a chocolate lab, a Cockapoo a frenchie and an English bull terrier. All were loved, raised well, socialised properly but guess which one was a little swine with attacking other dogs or any animal

She got into a fight with a Rottweiler and I’d never seen 2 dogs properly go at it in such a frenzy before and I got a big chunk bitten out of my calf trying to seperate it and I was very shook up after seeing first hand the level of violence

With people she was absolutely perfect and loved anyone coming in the house even for the first time and never showed any aggression to a person but any other animal she would simply try to kill
Luckily the grounds keeper at the local golf course would let me take her there where there was no other dogs

As a dog in the home yes I loved her just like all the others and it broke my heart when we lost her but no I wouldn’t get another it made life/ dog walks really hard and stressful

If I’d retired and had a big ranch type property in the middle of nowhere I’d have a bunch of them but I’m afraid it’s just in some breeds so I would be happy for certain dogs to be banned
Which breed was it?
 
That is not actually true. However, like most large breeds, proper handling is essential.
I have two bull breeds, both rescues, but both are very easily put in their places by Rhodesian Ridgeback, Spanish Mastiff, and Dogue de Bordeaux pals, all of which are significantly larger and more powerful than my dogs.
Regardless, this remains an absolute tragedy.
I'd put XL Bullys and Pit Bulls in the category of baby eaters.

You have to be a massive arsehole to want to keep a dog like that. Suggesting it's all down to the owner is only partly true as basically 99% are idiots at the point they decide to keep one in their council house.
 
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So many changes need to be made these incidents are horrendous
I’ve had 4 different dogs, a chocolate lab, a Cockapoo a frenchie and an English bull terrier. All were loved, raised well, socialised properly but guess which one was a little swine with attacking other dogs or any animal

She got into a fight with a Rottweiler and I’d never seen 2 dogs properly go at it in such a frenzy before and I got a big chunk bitten out of my calf trying to seperate it and I was very shook up after seeing first hand the level of violence

With people she was absolutely perfect and loved anyone coming in the house even for the first time and never showed any aggression to a person but any other animal she would simply try to kill
Luckily the grounds keeper at the local golf course would let me take her there where there was no other dogs

As a dog in the home yes I loved her just like all the others and it broke my heart when we lost her but no I wouldn’t get another it made life/ dog walks really hard and stressful

If I’d retired and had a big ranch type property in the middle of nowhere I’d have a bunch of them but I’m afraid it’s just in some breeds so I would be happy for certain dogs to be banned
Which breed was it?

English bull Terrier
I’d wanted one since a kid and watching The Incredible Journey
 
Okay in what way?
If you are asking me if I would categorise pitbulls alongside other breeds then yes. As I have said many times, any large breed has the capacity to inflict serious injury and even death. Ownership is the key factor - who is breeding, who is owning, and why.
I have a lot of breed experience and worked in dog rescue.

Much of what you say is correct. But I think your judgement is clouded. Completely agree that medium and large dogs can become dangerous if they are neglected, not handled and not exercised properly.

But XL bullies do not belong as pets. Their breed heritage and aggressive nature means they are simply not suitable to living in urban and suburban areas. Where most people in the country live and where most dogs live.

It would be fine if their owners had large closed off spaces to walk them and they couldn't escape. But that isn't the case.

They are almost universally owned by morons who neglect their dogs. And now they can't be walked in public without a muzzle and on a leash at all times. How are they getting proper exercise without their owners walking them for 2-3 hours a day, every day?

It's not realistic to expect that is actually happening.

They're dangerous and they don't belong as pets.
 
Much of what you say is correct. But I think your judgement is clouded. Completely agree that medium and large dogs can become dangerous if they are neglected, not handled and not exercised properly.

But XL bullies do not belong as pets. Their breed heritage and aggressive nature means they are simply not suitable to living in urban and suburban areas. Where most people in the country live and where most dogs live.

It would be fine if their owners had large closed off spaces to walk them and they couldn't escape. But that isn't the case.

They are almost universally owned by morons who neglect their dogs. And now they can't be walked in public without a muzzle and on a leash at all times. How are they getting proper exercise without their owners walking them for 2-3 hours a day, every day?

It's not realistic to expect that is actually happening.

They're dangerous and they don't belong as pets.
My experience is that they do not have an aggressive nature. My experience is that some owners of bull breeds embrace a sub-culture that encourages physical stimulation over socialisation and mental training. The consequences of that can be dire, naturally. The consequences will be the same when those same owners move to Presas, Cane Corsos, Borboels, or any of the large flock-protection breeds because of what I was saying earlier - breeding and ownership are the issues here, not the dogs intrinsic nature.
 
My experience is that they do not have an aggressive nature. My experience is that some owners of bull breeds embrace a sub-culture that encourages physical stimulation over socialisation and mental training. The consequences of that can be dire, naturally. The consequences will be the same when those same owners move to Presas, Cane Corsos, Borboels, or any of the large flock-protection breeds because of what I was saying earlier - breeding and ownership are the issues here, not the dogs intrinsic nature.

And all of the dogs you list are generally not suitable for urban or sub-urban areas. Dogs with unsurprisingly higher territorial instincts and that are more likely to be aggressive to strangers and other dogs.

How can you divorce a dog's nature from it's breeding? A dog may have inherited faults in it's behaviour from bad breeding. How do you stop that when XL bullies are so inbred and most of the studs are descended from one dog?

If those breeds you listed start attacking at the same rate, they should also be banned.
 
My experience is that they do not have an aggressive nature. My experience is that some owners of bull breeds embrace a sub-culture that encourages physical stimulation over socialisation and mental training. The consequences of that can be dire, naturally. The consequences will be the same when those same owners move to Presas, Cane Corsos, Borboels, or any of the large flock-protection breeds because of what I was saying earlier - breeding and ownership are the issues here, not the dogs intrinsic nature.

But the thing is as someone else said the vast majority of owners of these dogs are idiots so would it not be worth just banning them
 
My experience is that they do not have an aggressive nature. My experience is that some owners of bull breeds embrace a sub-culture that encourages physical stimulation over socialisation and mental training. The consequences of that can be dire, naturally. The consequences will be the same when those same owners move to Presas, Cane Corsos, Borboels, or any of the large flock-protection breeds because of what I was saying earlier - breeding and ownership are the issues here, not the dogs intrinsic nature.

You come across as a person who has the skills and patience to handle these dogs mate, the point is though not everyone has your attributes and dedication to looking after Dogs properly.
 
You come across as a person who has the skills and patience to handle these dogs mate, the point is though not everyone has your attributes and dedication to looking after Dogs properly.

Especially when the majority of the owners are 9 stone bellends smoking a spliff thinking the dog makes them hard.
 
And all of the dogs you list are generally not suitable for urban or sub-urban areas. Dogs with unsurprisingly higher territorial instincts and that are more likely to be aggressive to strangers and other dogs.

How can you divorce a dog's nature from it's breeding? A dog may have inherited faults in it's behaviour from bad breeding. How do you stop that when XL bullies are so inbred and most of the studs are descended from one dog?

If those breeds you listed start attacking at the same rate, they should also be banned.
Pedigree dogs are mostly inbred.
I would agree that large dogs in urban environments represent an issue.
We come back to the issue of breeding and ownership again and again. It is the demand for large, powerful breeds that is the main issue. Banning breeds will not solve that.
 
Especially when the majority of the owners are 9 stone bellends smoking a spliff thinking the dog makes them hard.

Saw a fella with two of these Dogs outside Piccadilly train station, the **** was walking them whilst he was riding a bike.

It's fair to say I took another route.
 

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