General Election - 4th July 2024

Who will you be voting for in the General Election?

  • Labour

    Votes: 266 56.8%

  • Conservative

    Votes: 12 2.6%

  • Liberal Democrat

    Votes: 40 8.5%

  • Reform

    Votes: 71 15.2%

  • Green Party

    Votes: 28 6.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 51 10.9%
  • Total voters
    468
Vic said:
That says as much about the Telegraph's standard of journalism as it says about Tory lies (or incompetence - which may be more damaging).
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BBC still managed to report "retaining" the relief as a tax cut. Like most tax breaks on housing, it just fuels house price increases.
 
jim tolmies perm said:
What a shady looking bunch of cunts..and working class people feel affinity to these types? Really, fuck me..!
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They feel an affinity with them because the arrogant professional politicians have done fuck all for anyone but themselves for decades.

It's time real politicians stood the fuck up mate.
 
bluenova said:
If anything described Farage, those words do.

A man who made millions as an MEP without bothering to actually be one.
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See you've done the same thing haven't you? Not calling other politicians into account for giving him air to breathe. If they did their jobs he wouldn't have a foothold would he?

Underestimating or leaving the working class behind is a mistake they didn't learn from.
 
mexico1970 said:
See you've done the same thing haven't you? Not calling other politicians into account for giving him air to breathe. If they did their jobs he wouldn't have a foothold would he?

Underestimating or leaving the working class behind is a mistake they didn't learn from.
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He was an MEP from 1999.

There's a huge list of achievements that Labour made during the time he was grifting "in" Brussels. MPs in Westminster were doing their jobs, while he took the money and stirred up discontent.

The policies of Reform are nowhere near as supportive of the majority of people, as the last Labour government. His grift is the establishment outsider telling people that all politicians are the same, so that those that do care, and do try to make a difference, are ignored. All in order to promote his own right wing, anti-working class agenda.
 
mexico1970 said:
See you've done the same thing haven't you? Not calling other politicians into account for giving him air to breathe. If they did their jobs he wouldn't have a foothold would he?

Underestimating or leaving the working class behind is a mistake they didn't learn from.
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He’s a con man, when a con man plumber cons somebody ,do you blame other plumbers or the con man. Which ones the crook?
Stop diverting from what he is, a racist right wing con man.
 
I hope pensioners are not naive enough to buy into this triple lock plus proposal, believing it to be a great deal.

It will be a while before state pension reaches the tax threshold and then it will be only a few pounds that will be taxable at 20%

Surprised the media have not raised this
 
mexico1970 said:
They feel an affinity with them because the arrogant professional politicians have done fuck all for anyone but themselves for decades.

It's time real politicians stood the fuck up mate.
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Didn't an Austrian failed painter start saying something in the 1920s?
 
mexico1970 said:
See you've done the same thing haven't you? Not calling other politicians into account for giving him air to breathe. If they did their jobs he wouldn't have a foothold would he?

Underestimating or leaving the working class behind is a mistake they didn't learn from.
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I used to go to the pub with dad's mates, they were all working class and all absolutely adamant leave voters. They were voting for Brexit before the decision was made to even hold the referendum. As a remainer I got a lot of stick from them and it was impossible to get through to them.

They will all now turn to Reform and that sums up what's happening. The mistake that many people make is they believe the working classes are revolting against the Tories in favour of some social revolution but it's not true. The working classes are revolting because they want to move back to the right.

Labour will not win the next election by appeal alone, they'll win it because the right is polarised and split. If you add the Reform vote to the current Tory vote on polling then that's Labour's huge majority is gone. If Farage was to lead the Tories in 5 years then it's only the centrists and the Lib Dems that will make the difference.

It's impossible to underestimate the impact that Farage could have. I highly doubt that he wants to become an MP and he probably won't win but he has been absolutely right about the Tories. We should all be very worried if he does become an MP because that almost guarantees that he could be Tory leader in 5 years time, then all bets are off.

Troubled waters ahead.
 
mexico1970 said:
See you've done the same thing haven't you? Not calling other politicians into account for giving him air to breathe. If they did their jobs he wouldn't have a foothold would he?

Underestimating or leaving the working class behind is a mistake they didn't learn from.
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He has air to breathe because he can say what the fuck he wants without scrutiny. Anyone with half a brain knows that he’s bullshitting. If the media scrutinised his promises and associated costs and called him out on it it wouldn’t take long for it to all fall apart. However their focus is on Labour and the Tories which is why their promises seem somewhat mundane in comparison.
 
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