Altercation at Terminal 2

[BerkshireBlue]

No I'm not fucking wrong. Whatever the provocation, which was severe, I expect an officer of the law to behave to a certain standard.

you are wrong. You're standing by yourself on this one

 

[bluwes]

The Police Officer has to go, but the animals who grievously assaulted the police officers, should spend time in prison.

Why does he have to go, please explain.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

you are wrong. You're standing by yourself on this one

Well that's fine by me as I don't want to stand with a group of racists or apologists for unnecessary violence by an officer of the law.

I'm a law-abiding citizen and I expect those paid to uphold the law to also be law abiding. But there's barely a day goes by when we don't read about a copper being on the wrong side of the law. There are too many thugs in police uniform.

 

[bert38]

you are wrong. You're standing by yourself on this one

He’s not ‘wrong’ but I honestly think it’s an incredibly complex matter-and probably why lawyers get paid a shitload of money.

 

[bert38]

Well that's fine by me as I don't want to stand with a group of racists or apologists for unnecessary violence by an officer of the law.

I'm a law-abiding citizen and I expect those paid to uphold the law to also be law abiding. But there's barely a day goes by when we don't read about a copper being on the wrong side of the law. There are too many thugs in police uniform.

I would counter that from personal experience they aren’t common place and that they usually get weeded out because nobody wants to work with someone who is going to get you twatted too..

And our media do like to present a somewhat skewed picture.

 

[marco]

Why does he have to go, please explain.

at a guess if he remained in the position he has and there was another incident which had a much worse ending someone somewhere would be in deep shit, he'l keep his job but most likely end up behind a desk

 

[i kne albert davy]

Why does he have to go, please explain.

I would hope the officer doesn't have to go, nor under go anything other than his normal training. I defy anyone on here to be punched in the head 5 or 6 times be out numbered two to one and not try to take one of the attackers out of the game with 2 seconds of thinking time.

 

[meltonblue]

I would hope the officer doesn't have to go, nor under go anything other than his normal training. I defy anyone on here to be punched in the head 5 or 6 times be out numbered two to one and not try to take one of the attackers out of the game with 2 seconds of thinking time.

I’d agree with that but add if those officers have gone through normal training, I hope the police question themselves if that training is good enough. That situation could have ended up far far worse than it did.

 

[BerkshireBlue]

Well that's fine by me as I don't want to stand with a group of racists or apologists for unnecessary violence by an officer of the law.

I'm a law-abiding citizen and I expect those paid to uphold the law to also be law abiding. But there's barely a day goes by when we don't read about a copper being on the wrong side of the law. There are too many thugs in police uniform.

he's not on the wrong side of he law, he's well within it so that statement is wrong for starters

 

[bluwes]

I would hope the officer doesn't have to go, nor under go anything other than his normal training. I defy anyone on here to be punched in the head 5 or 6 times be out numbered two to one and not try to take one of the attackers out of the game with 2 seconds of thinking time.

Watch the video he is the officer who is grounded by the scrote, he’s in possession of a machine gun, a weapon that he has to under any circumstances protect, he manages to get back up and kicks him in the head, he’s lucky the officer didn’t shoot him

 

[mackenzie]

The original attack was horrific.
The one thing that is now of primary relevance re the kick to the head is how the officer perceived his situation and possible vulnerability. That's the main thing, I guess, that will be focused on.

 

[i kne albert davy]

I’d agree with that but add if those officers have gone through normal training, I hope the police question themselves if that training is good enough. That situation could have ended up far far worse than it did.

Could you train for an attack of that severity, I don't know train all you want but when it happens like that in real life the little policewoman had some guts getting up from a punch that would have took most blokes out but basically he was left two on one.

 

[marco]

Watch the video he is the officer who is grounded by the scrote, he’s in possession of a machine gun, a weapon that he has to under any circumstances protect, he manages to get back up and kicks him in the head, he’s lucky the officer didn’t shoot him

on the flip side could you imagine if that gun had got dropped and the scrote had got it, that guy was off his head and could have sprayed all those coppers

 

[BerkshireBlue]

The original attack was horrific.
The one thing that is now of primary relevance re the kick to the head is how the officer perceived his situation and possible vulnerability. That's the main thing, I guess, that will be focused on.

the guy on the floor took 4 cops out, he's not going to let him recover so he could have another go. Pretty much anyone would do the same thing in the situation

 

[Blue boats]

Chaotic violent scenes create chaotic actions no matter how much training you can give a person when it’s real it’s real you can never practice that feeling inside you when violence happens. The offices actions are clearly justified, anyone who thinks otherwise has never ever been involved in a situation like that it’s as simple as that.

 

[meltonblue]

Could you train for an attack of that severity, I don't know train all you want but when it happens like that in real life the little policewoman had some guts getting up from a punch that would have took most blokes out but basically he was left two on one.

Agree with that once the fighting started, was more thinking the way they approached them in the first place in that second vid, particularly if they were already considered dangerous.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

he's not on the wrong side of he law, he's well within it so that statement is wrong for starters

We'll see how things turn out.

 

[bluwes]

No I'm not fucking wrong. Whatever the provocation, which was severe, I expect an officer of the law to behave to a certain standard.

Colin , you’re great at financial stuff, but in this I instance you are totally wrong.the scrote has already grounded the armed officer. He is in possession of a machine gun. He has to protect that weapon at all costs, he manages to get to his feet, he as to subdue the man on the ground who could jump up and grab the gun off him. He’s lucky he didn’t shoot him

 

[Bluemanc100]

Well that's fine by me as I don't want to stand with a group of racists or apologists for unnecessary violence by an officer of the law.

I'm a law-abiding citizen and I expect those paid to uphold the law to also be law abiding. But there's barely a day goes by when we don't read about a copper being on the wrong side of the law. There are too many thugs in police uniform.

Who the hell would sign up to be a copper in the world we live in… they’re damned if they do and damned if they don’t..

You can’t condone the kick in isolation but I haven’t seen anything about this additional video in the MSM which makes the whole situation less clear cut than I though it was…

The police (I imagine) work to a “rule of minimum force” like I did when I was in the military but I’ve been in situations myself in the past where the general brief was to “take your chances early” meaning go with your gut instead of regretting doing nothing later..

After seeing the video at the start of this thread then it becomes clear that this is far from a case of police brutality … the policeman in question will probably lose his livelihood for something that was adrenaline fuelled…

I wouldn’t do the job for a gold watch

 

[i kne albert davy]

Watch the video he is the officer who is grounded by the scrote, he’s in possession of a machine gun, a weapon that he has to under any circumstances protect, he manages to get back up and kicks him in the head, he’s lucky the officer didn’t shoot him

I've watched it mate thought in the circumstances the officer did well not to do more to ensure he was no longer a threat. The disappointing bit is so many bystanders not one pitched in to give the copper a lift.