Banning smoking in beer gardens

[BlueMoonRisin’]

Out of interest, if the legislation came only in its proposed entirety, would you still be against it?

Of course I would. Freedom of choice, mate.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

I am referencing the data you yourself and stonerblue posted ffs. You have tried to use percentage of closures as 'proof' that it is the smoking ban, when both those articles list other factors contributing to pub closures.

Tell you what, you show me the evidence that pub closures are down to the smoking ban. Excluding everything else. Not just that pubs closed, not that the made losses (because they had to pay more taxes, rent and spend more on goods), but that puple having to step outside to smoke caused them to close. And I will happily concede.

You first.

 

[Kippax Street 1880]

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You're lucky though this fruit smell allergy that has soared like a pandemic amongst non smokers and non vapers obviously doesn't affect you.

#helpitsmellsjustlikejelly

I understand why the fruity smells piss people off, when they get subjected to a gang of teenagers constantly blasting the things indoors or on public transport. I use it when I used to smoke basically. Few puffs in the morning, few on breaks, always go outside. I think people get issues when they start using them like an oxygen tank, people don't clean them or change devices often enough either, so saliva sits in the mouthpiece and becomes a petri dish.

Do think my pineapple flavour smells quite pleasant though, much better than a lit cig anyway!

 

[PragueBlue]

Let's face it, if smoking tobacco was a new invention it would be banned altogether due to how much it fucks you up.

Alcohol probably would be too.

 

[Coatigan]

Of course I would. Freedom of choice, mate.

Yeah it was a genuine question, no 'judgement' (not that it is for to do so), was just interested.

You are among the 28% of the current polls. Fair enough.

 

[Coatigan]

You first.

I have, read above.

 

[BlueMoonRisin’]

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I understand why the fruity smells piss people off, when they get subjected to a gang of teenagers constantly blasting the things indoors or on public transport. I use it when I used to smoke basically. Few puffs in the morning, few on breaks, always go outside. I think people get issues when they start using them like an oxygen tank, people don't clean them or change devices often enough either, so saliva sits in the mouthpiece and becomes a petri dish.

Do think my pineapple flavour smells quite pleasant though, much better than a lit cig anyway!

I tried several weird fruit flavour vapes but didn't like any of them so I stuck to tobacco flavour. But the more I vaped the more I coughed so I stopped vaping and went back to rolling my own cigarettes. If I manage to stop smoking I won't ever vape because I want to be totally free of nicotine addiction. I have several friends who vape, some with nicotine, some without but vaping just isn't for me.

You are a considerate vaper and I've come across many who are not. They chuff away like a steam train wherever they are. They think it's OK to vape in places that smoking is banned, it's not, it's just plain selfish and Inconsiderate.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

I have, read above.

You clearly haven't lol. Anyway I'm bored with this thread and you ranting on about smokers outside pubs. Enjoy the rest of the thread. Until we cross swords on the next hot topic....

 

[hilts]

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I understand why the fruity smells piss people off, when they get subjected to a gang of teenagers constantly blasting the things indoors or on public transport. I use it when I used to smoke basically. Few puffs in the morning, few on breaks, always go outside. I think people get issues when they start using them like an oxygen tank, people don't clean them or change devices often enough either, so saliva sits in the mouthpiece and becomes a petri dish.

Do think my pineapple flavour smells quite pleasant though, much better than a lit cig anyway!

The nuclear devices that kids and even some adults use do smack of look at me. I think eventually if vapes survive(despite the efforts of the very boring busy cunts) they will be toned down.
The world is full of various smells we don't ban them because the odd dullard doesn't like it.

 

[Coatigan]

You clearly haven't lol. Anyway I'm bored with this thread and you ranting on about smokers outside pubs. Enjoy the rest of the thread. Until we cross swords on the next hot topic....

One day we'll agree on something. Or not, nothing personal either way. Whatever I said I did so in good faith.

 

[hilts]

I tried several weird fruit flavour vapes but didn't like any of them so I stuck to tobacco flavour. But the more I vaped the more I coughed so I stopped vaping and went back to rolling my own cigarettes. If I manage to stop smoking I won't ever vape because I want to be totally free of nicotine addiction. I have several friends who vape, some with nicotine, some without but vaping just isn't for me.

You are a considerate vaper and I've come across many who are not. They chuff away like a steam train wherever they are. They think it's OK to vape in places that smoking is banned, it's not, it's just plain selfish and Inconsiderate.

The laws on smoking don't apply to vaping though so in effect it is okay unless it's prohibited by the owner of the property they are on. Too many people think vaping is smoking, its not for very obvious reasons.

 

[BlueMoonRisin’]

The laws on smoking don't apply to vaping though so in effect it is okay unless it's prohibited by the owner of the property they are on. Too many people think vaping is smoking, its not for very obvious reasons.

Many places where smoking is banned vaping is too. Vaping is banned at the Etihad yet I saw several vaping in their seats at the Ipswich game. Selfish and inconsiderate, like I said.

 

[Coatigan]

Many places where smoking is banned vaping is too. Vaping is banned at the Etihad yet I saw several vaping in their seats at the Ipswich game. Selfish and inconsiderate, like I said.

There is no overarching law banning dogs from places either. But dogs are banned where that is stated. The same goes for vaping, where the ban says 'including electronic cigarettes'.
Where they aren't specifically banned, it still doesn't make it 'ok'. Selfish and inconsiderate, is pretty fair. Easy to laugh off though.

 

[hilts]

Many places where smoking is banned vaping is too. Vaping is banned at the Etihad yet I saw several vaping in their seats at the Ipswich game. Selfish and inconsiderate, like I said.

I'm aware although if its correct is a different story. I mentioned the other day that the airport treats smokers and vapers the same as do many smoking shelters at businesses. Plain wrong.

 

[BlueMoonRisin’]

There is no overarching law banning dogs from places either. But dogs are banned where that is stated. The same goes for vaping, where the ban says 'including electronic cigarettes'.
Where they aren't specifically banned, it still doesn't make it 'ok'. Selfish and inconsiderate, is pretty fair. Easy to laugh off though.

Dogs that smoke and vape should be banned; )

 

[BlueMoonRisin’]

I'm aware although if its correct is a different story. I mentioned the other day that the airport treats smokers and vapers the same as do many smoking shelters at businesses. Plain wrong.

I take it you are a vaper ?

 

[MCFC Wirral]

True but thousands of pubs have closed in City centres

Everywhere round here is dead. Liverpool always very busy.

I used The Halfway House in Clayton for the CL Final v Inter and the last FA Cup Final. Half full both times.

 

[BlueMoonRisin’]

Everywhere round here is dead. Liverpool always very busy.

I used The Halfway House in Clayton for the CL Final v Inter and the last FA Cup Final. Half full both times.

You live in Birkenhead, right?

 

[hilts]

I take it you are a vaper ?

Nope, went from smoking to vaping(probably one of the first) to quitting completely..The vaping experience was strange in how the ill informed viewed it.

 

[MCFC Wirral]

You live in Birkenhead, right?

No. Prenton.

It’s only busy when Tranmere are home. You literally have to go to the one place that has something on for a crowd on a particular night.

Swansea was quiet two Saturdays ago. 2pm and me and my mate were the only ones in a nice bistro for lunch (you’d call it dinner!)