Hooliganism and Violence Maine Road 80's/early 90's

[Scaring Europe to Death]

The flaw in that argument is that there was hooliganism before National Service ended. There were Teddy Boys in the 1950s and razor gangs in the 1930s.

That's right
I was recently reading a book about the 57-58 season and there were newspaper reports of crowd trouble at 3-4 City games.

 

[City & Blue Brazil]

Were you there. ?

I was on the bus going to the game and the road was covered in broken glass with pub windows put through , saw a mob of presumably geordies moving off though none of them were wearing Newcastle shirts, after the game they were being attacked going back into town.

 

[bluemanchester]

Its hard to quantify if you arent of that mind set.
Britain has always been, for thousands of years, a war mongering nation where young lads could go and scrap all over the world in the name of fighting for your country.
Lads lining up to fight in WW1, lying about their age, also in the name of empire building and fighting nazism. But often just an excuse to scrap.
National service enabled it. Off to Aden, korea, wherever, off for a scrap.

Then with the end of national service, the desire for young lads to fight was still there so it manifested itself in mods/rockers fighting on brighton beach, then into football hooliganism. Lads just wanted to fight and found an excuse and a way.

Thank fully these days the need doesnt seem to be there. But its just how it was back then and still young men want to fight.

We had the scuttlers and scuttling gangs in Manchester and Salford late 19th century. These were mainly neighbouhood based as travel was not as accessible then.

 

[Bluesince1979]

We had the scuttlers and scuttling gangs in Manchester and Salford late 19th century. These were mainly neighbouhood based as travel was not as accessible then.

The desire to scrap n fight , however that manifested.
War.
Mods n rockers
Scuttlers
Teds
Hooligans

Still around today, they are called scrotes ;)

 

[failsworthblueboy]

We had the scuttlers and scuttling gangs in Manchester and Salford late 19th century. These were mainly neighbouhood based as travel was not as accessible then.

I'm reading the book at the moment, The Gangs of Manchester by Andrew Davies, really good read and an eye opener.

 

[Mike S]

Is this not when Boro came into the North Stand 10 mins from the end?

I remember that well ! Some Boro appeared up from a stair well about 5 yards from me. Cheeky twats :-)

It seemed to take an eternity for some Blues and stewards to realise what was happening before then leaping into action !!!

 

[Maintainin]

He was from Middleton I think Daft D?

1st Earl of Langley
Duke of Middleton
Sir Farahdon
Thee Rt Hon Wossis name


"...eeeyar Fingie, borrow us 10p"

 

[shnaghaicityfish]

The flaw in that argument is that there was hooliganism before National Service ended. There were Teddy Boys in the 1950s and razor gangs in the 1930s.

and don’t forget The Peaky Blinders……!

 

[manclad]

We had the scuttlers and scuttling gangs in Manchester and Salford late 19th century. These were mainly neighbouhood based as travel was not as accessible then.

The Bengal Tigers like this post !!

 

[levets]

1st Earl of Langley
Duke of Middleton
Sir Farahdon
Thee Rt Hon Wossis name


"...eeeyar Fingie, borrow us 10p"

Definitely he was ‘daft’…
Wrexham away, Boxing Day 1998, lunchtime KO (12:00)
On the Chadderton/Hollinwood coach. On way back, He’s sat in front of me, asks to borrow a phone and makes a call to Powell at utd.(utd at home).
Tells Powell there’s a coach load of us and we’ll be ‘there’ soon. Good job the driver told him to get fucked. The lad he borrowed the phone off got loads of abuse by text lol… 100% fucking daft.

 

[Maintainin]

Definitely he was ‘daft’…
Wrexham away, Boxing Day 1998, lunchtime KO (12:00)
On the Chadderton/Hollinwood coach. On way back, He’s sat in front of me, asks to borrow a phone and makes a call to Powell at utd.(utd at home).
Tells Powell there’s a coach load of us and we’ll be ‘there’ soon. Good job the driver told him to get fucked. The lad he borrowed the phone off got loads of abuse by text lol… 100% fucking daft.

One of a kind character with way too many exploits to mention...

I remember him borrowing' a bus (as one tended to just do) from the Princess Rd depot one matchday afternoon, around 1986-7, don't think it got past the corner of Claremont Rd n Rosebery St :-)

Top lad.

 

[xgorton]

One of a kind character with way too many exploits to mention...

I remember him borrowing' a bus (as one tended to just do) from the Princess Rd depot one matchday afternoon, around 1986-7, don't think it got past the corner of Claremont Rd n Rosebery St :-)

Top lad.

Donkey jacket and cotton wool in his ear ? also have you got 10p.

 

[levets]

Donkey jacket and cotton wool in his ear ? also have you got 10p.

Wasn’t that Kev Kennedy ‘Bulldog’ with the donkey jacket and cotton wool.

 

[Maintainin]

Wasn’t that Kev Kennedy ‘Bulldog’ with the donkey jacket and cotton wool.

D was more the old parka (anorak) jacket/coat type back then, the sort worn by infants with sleeves shorter than his arms, haha

 

[levets]

D was more the old parker (anorak) jacket/coat type back then, the sort worn by infants with sleeves shorter than his arms, haha

Hahaha… he was!

 

[mayo31]

Sure DD lives in Rochdale now or did a few years back

One of the 7 sister tower blocks?

 

[Maintainin]

Sure DD lives in Rochdale now or did a few years back

One of the 7 sister tower blocks?

Didn't he feature in some kinda news article few years back, pictured in front of said blocks, i think?

 

[yeseye]

1st Earl of Langley
Duke of Middleton
Sir Farahdon
Thee Rt Hon Wossis name


"...eeeyar Fingie, borrow us 10p"

The 1st time I met him it was
“Eeeyar Steve, borrow us 20p”

He kept it together in Brum town Centre 90 ish iirc as we came under attack after the game and we managed to scatter them off,
But the joy was short lived as they got their revenge on the ramp upto the Bull Ring.

 

[Midlands Blue]

Waiting for one of DF's coaches for an away game on Store St, someone threw a ball towards DD and shouted 'heads Donald!' and he headed it straight back. Unlucky though as it was a cricket ball. Good job he had a thick skull

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

Definitely he was ‘daft’…
Wrexham away, Boxing Day 1998, lunchtime KO (12:00)
On the Chadderton/Hollinwood coach. On way back, He’s sat in front of me, asks to borrow a phone and makes a call to Powell at utd.(utd at home).
Tells Powell there’s a coach load of us and we’ll be ‘there’ soon. Good job the driver told him to get fucked. The lad he borrowed the phone off got loads of abuse by text lol… 100% fucking daft.

Leicester away he was trying to persuade everyone to not catch the train back to Manchester but a different one (can’t remember where to ) to meet up with Millwall. No idea how he was going to contact them as it was before the days of mobile but he was convinced of his plan,