PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

mattcity5 said:
You don't know who else they've asked. There could be loads of people. Relax a little.
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You relax! ;)

halfcenturyup said:
The "let's fuck City over right now" angle?

They wouldn't be keeping it quiet if they knew it was bad news for the club. Some **** somewhere would have leaked it. Ergo, they don't.

All the media noise, if anything, is softening towards the club.

All imho.
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Yes and I stand by that. Whether they know, think they know, or are simply preparing either way, any City supporter that gets invited along in any capacity, won't be with good intentions or for positive takes. It will be loaded and it will only be to frame it one way. Whenever that may actually be.

I say that as an isolated option fwiw.
 
halfcenturyup said:
It's not theoretical because the internal club documents leaked by der Spiegel mention such loss underwriting payments.

Yes, if the books add up then there isn't a problem, but that is true of every financial allegation ever made. My problem is that for Fordham and Touré I, personally, haven't seen enough in the public domain to be able to conclude there is no issue. If others have, I would be happy to hear it.

And no, imho the PL will have referred the allegations to the disciplinary process when they couldn't take their investigation any further and if they hadn't received, in their opinion, satisfactory answers to their questions.

I will say again, I don't think either of these allegations is in the same class of seriousness as the sponsorship allegations and so I am quite relaxed about them. I am also quite happy to give credit to Khaldoon when he says everything is above board. He has earned that. But when people say things like "what could the PL possibly be confident about?" I think it's perfectly reasonable for me to say that I don't know enough about either of these issues to conclude that there is no problem in the same way that I have been able to, in my mind at least, for the more serious issues around sponsorship.

Probably best to wait for the result of the hearing now, I think.
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Some months ago I got absolutely slaughtered on here because the view you articulated in the above posts was close to the view I was putting forward.

Image rights payments are far from clear cut. It used to be that you could divert a set % of overall package to IR now it’s more to do with proven worth.

Several/ most big players in English football have agreed settlements with HMRC I believe a couple more are still to.

The demise of Portsmouth exposed warts and all the boundaries that were not only being pushed but trampled over by clubs diverting payments from standard PAYE to entities that were related to players. The football creditor rule was challenged by HMRC following Portsmouths insolvency event but to put it mildly HMRC had its arse kicked.

As you say that there is little put in the public domain concerning the details of these minor charges, because that’s what they are, so that vacuum has been filed by people joining the dots.

As I have pointed out I have been involved in many a football club investigation so nothing surprises me.

From company cars being provided to the children to a wife working for a non trading company and being paid tens of thousands a year. To children’s education fees being paid to a players of shore company on behalf of his father scouting in Africa when the father was dead.

None of us have a clue the strength of case the PL has put forward.
 
Newman Noggs said:
Given that the parties get the Judgment in advance, and in view of the PL's recalcitrant attitude towards release of the APT findings, it wouldn't surprise me if the club are already aware of the decision but the PL are delaying it's release whilst they manage timings and comms. .
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No doubt about what the PL would do given it's previous behaviour, but City were apparently pissed with them and threatening to dump it themselves if they didn't move their backsides. I don't think City will give them much leeway this time around if it's in our favour.
 
foggy1974 said:
So going off that question it's either the club are bent as 9 bob note or City fans are all paranoid blinkered crackpots
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Oh, that’s easy. We are all crackpots, it’s an essential condition of being a blue. If you are sane, you get thrown out or worse get accused of being a rag.
 
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Nephin Man said:
If that's all kosher, then you have to ask who's 'briefed' the BBC and ITV? These proceedings are meant to be confidential. City, the PL, a Tribunal insider? I personally think the media already know the outcome, because they know how the hearings went, if not because they've been told the verdict. Of course I could be completely wrong, but there hasn't been the pile-on I was expecting after the latest Tebas remarks. It's the opposite of how they behaved before the CAS verdict was announced. It's gone very quiet, and we've even had the Mullock story daring to consider City will be cleared and that the PL have not been acting in good faith! Last week feels like a final desperate parting shot. Could just be me deluding myself, but time to load our guns, just in case.
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Mullock will have been told by the club some info on the PL’s bad faith.
 
domalino said:
I really can't give a shit about any of this because Sam Lee like every other journalist is just getting steers and nods from people around the club and PL, so we already know he knows nothing, just like everyone else.

Having said that I genuinely can't imagine being so childish you (1) Think having a conversation with 3 anti-City journalists about their point of view means you're an anti-city journalist and (2) Keep a screenshot of it for 5 years to whip out any time he reports something you don't like.




So like every single City fan? There's a reason we get 3,000 page threads every time Pep's contract runs down.



I wish people would just admit they hate him because they found out he grew up a United fan. The mood towards him changed overnight on here when he said that on Ahsan's podcast. Meanwhile everyone outside the City fanbase thinks he's a City mouthpiece that can't be relied on to do anything other than spout the club's line.

If you don't like him don't read his stuff, but don't pretend he's part of some anti-city cabal.
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Has your gout resurfaced?
 
Nephin Man said:
If that's all kosher, then you have to ask who's 'briefed' the BBC and ITV? These proceedings are meant to be confidential. City, the PL, a Tribunal insider? I personally think the media already know the outcome, because they know how the hearings went, if not because they've been told the verdict. Of course I could be completely wrong, but there hasn't been the pile-on I was expecting after the latest Tebas remarks. It's the opposite of how they behaved before the CAS verdict was announced. It's gone very quiet, and we've even had the Mullock story daring to consider City will be cleared and that the PL have not been acting in good faith! Last week feels like a final desperate parting shot. Could just be me deluding myself, but time to load our guns, just in case.
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I’d say zero chance anyone in the media knows the verdict beyond a steer of confidence from either side, which really tells us very little.

This is arguably the biggest story in Premier League history - no media outlet is sitting on that if they have a concrete view of the decision.
 
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