PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Doesn’t matter how much money a shareholder of a club has.

Newcastle’s income was only 52% of Liverpool’s last season, and going back years is far lower than that. Since 2019 Liverpool’s income has been just short of £3b, while Newcastle’s has only been just over £1b in the same period. Plus Newcastle had base losses in three of those years.

For years I’ve said, ‘where the fuck does the money go at Liverpool?’.

Liverpool are far wealthier than Newcastle.

Plus City have spent a fortune. In the last five years our total outgoing spend has been a flat £1b. That’s more than everyone apart from Chelsea (£1.82b) and United (£1.09b) [Arsenal (£0.99b) and Liverpool (£0.91b)].

In 2025 alone, we’ve seen £304m go out on transfers.

We aren’t being hobbled. Grealish aside, we have never gone all out and thrown massive money at individual transfer fees. We pulled out of transfer negotiations for loads of players so we wouldn’t be held to spending too much, going back to Pogba in 2016. That’s our transfer model, our choice.

Last season saw key players like Stones, Aké, Dias, Rodri, Grealish and Foden miss anything from 20 to 53 games through injury. De Bruyne was only available for 30 games in all comps and in 13 of those he started on the bench even though we had massive injury problems elsewhere. Plus Walker’s head fell off.
This meant we had to rely on young lads, squad players and new signings most of the time which skews our perception on the squad making us think our squad’s a mess.

If Stones, Aké, Dias, Rodri, Grealish and Foden had all been fit and firing over the last 13 months, nobody would be talking about our transfer activity because most of the lads we’ve been relying on would be bit-part players. But they haven’t been, plus Walker, Akanji, Gündoğan, De Bruyne and Ederson all came to the end of their time with us, so we’ve had to sign a huge amount of players in a short space of time, mostly young lads with no experience who need more patience and more support to get behind them while they develop into good players in their prime for us to be back up challenging in a few years. We wouldn’t have been able to go out with £75m on each player because we’ve needed to sign so many in two windows, and the plan for them has been to buy young for long term goals, not just to plug short term gaps. And we’re also going to need big spend in the next few Transfer Windows to replace even more players who will be leaving soon, whereas Liverpool and Arsenal will probably have to sign the odd squad player over the next year, if that.

And who’s to say top players would have wanted to sign for us anyway?

Yeah, Kane wanted to, but we didn’t want to spend £120m on him and were patient in waiting a year for Haaland for about 40% of the fee Kane would have cost. But Bellingham didn’t want to sign for us, Rice didn’t want to sign for us, Wirtz didn’t want to sign for us, Livramento hasn’t wanted to sign for us… and with most of them we wouldn’t have spent the money required to sign them anyway, we’d have pulled out like we did with Kane because that’s what we always do when players would cost too much. There’s nothing we can do about that and it’s nothing to do with any charges are rules that are in place.

This is closer to the mark than poor buying.
Walker, Akanji, Gündoğan, De Bruyne and Ederson all came to the end of their time with us

With no succession plan for these players, i would say that the club was culpable of mis management
We've said for years we're the best run club and don't make rash decisions
The fact we let the squad age and made rash decisions on signings proves this fact wrong
 
Walker, Akanji, Gündoğan, De Bruyne and Ederson all came to the end of their time with us

With no succession plan for these players, i would say that the club was culpable of mis management
We've said for years we're the best run club and don't make rash decisions
The fact we let the squad age and made rash decisions on signings proves this fact wrong
One of the problems with players coming to the end of their careers is buying players that are capable of taking over, but are happy to sit on the bench for a year or two.

Either that or sell some of the legends before their time is up.

I dont think were being mismanaged, I just think that regenerating a successful team isn't as easy or quick as some make out.

Sure we've made some mistakes but theres no club in the world that doesn't do that.
 
I think United increasingly tried to distance themselves from the poisonous briefings especially after Ratcliffe came in. Ferguson has always been pure poison off the field but these days has little influence. I heard a few years back that the biggest drivers were LFC, Arsenal, and Spurs. Certainly Parry is not a friend of City. So perhaps Ladyman has a genuine source.
INEOS have a joint venture with Mubadala owned Nova chemicals

Mubadala Chairman is Sheikh Mansour
Mubadala CEO and MD is Khaldoon AL Mubarak
 
Walker, Akanji, Gündoğan, De Bruyne and Ederson all came to the end of their time with us

With no succession plan for these players, i would say that the club was culpable of mis management
We've said for years we're the best run club and don't make rash decisions
The fact we let the squad age and made rash decisions on signings proves this fact wrong
Yes, poor planning but not poor buying
 
One of the problems with players coming to the end of their careers is buying players that are capable of taking over, but are happy to sit on the bench for a year or two.

Either that or sell some of the legends before their time is up.

I dont think were being mismanaged, I just think that regenerating a successful team isn't as easy or quick as some make out.

Sure we've made some mistakes but theres no club in the world that doesn't do that.
Manchiseruni’ed never make a mistake.
 
Walker, Akanji, Gündoğan, De Bruyne and Ederson all came to the end of their time with us

With no succession plan for these players, i would say that the club was culpable of mis management
We've said for years we're the best run club and don't make rash decisions
The fact we let the squad age and made rash decisions on signings proves this fact wrong
No succession plans for Ederson? Apart from signing two goalkeepers, one often cited as the best in the world! You have a case regarding KDB, Walker, and Akanji but sabotaged your case by linking Ederson.
 
No succession plans for Ederson? Apart from signing two goalkeepers, one often cited as the best in the world! You have a case regarding KDB, Walker, and Akanji but sabotaged your case by linking Ederson.

I think Donnarumma isn't the best replacement.

The whole team plays a completely other way and I don't think the styles will match. Hope I'm wrong but I really have this feeling Trafford is a much better fit for City in the long term and Real will also want Donnarumma soon enough.

We'll find out I guess!
 
“But Bellingham didn’t want to sign for us, Rice didn’t want to sign for us, Wirtz didn’t want to sign for us, Livramento hasn’t wanted to sign for us”

So the bigger question has to be, why the hell not? The most successful PL team of the last decade, what are we doing wrong that this level of player prefers our rivals every time?
 
“But Bellingham didn’t want to sign for us, Rice didn’t want to sign for us, Wirtz didn’t want to sign for us, Livramento hasn’t wanted to sign for us”

So the bigger question has to be, why the hell not? The most successful PL team of the last decade, what are we doing wrong that this level of player prefers our rivals every time?

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“But Bellingham didn’t want to sign for us, Rice didn’t want to sign for us, Wirtz didn’t want to sign for us, Livramento hasn’t wanted to sign for us”

So the bigger question has to be, why the hell not? The most successful PL team of the last decade, what are we doing wrong that this level of player prefers our rivals every time?
Every time??? So we've never signed anyone decent then?

In Wirtz's case I believe it was around an extra £7million or so for his dad.
Bellingham is a dick and as long as he didn't sign then I don't care about the reason.
Rice wanted to stay in London.
Newcastle wanted too much for Livramento.
 
Every time??? So we've never signed anyone decent then?

In Wirtz's case I believe it was around an extra £7million or so for his dad.
Bellingham is a dick and as long as he didn't sign then I don't care about the reason.
Rice wanted to stay in London.
Newcastle wanted too much for Livramento.

Plenty decent, but since Haaland not many of the absolute top stars. It’s allowed Liverpool and Arsenal to catch us up.

If it’s something as simple as greasing the palms of family just do it, £7m is peanuts to City isn’t it.
 
One of the problems with players coming to the end of their careers is buying players that are capable of taking over, but are happy to sit on the bench for a year or two.

Either that or sell some of the legends before their time is up.

I dont think were being mismanaged, I just think that regenerating a successful team isn't as easy or quick as some make out.

Sure we've made some mistakes but theres no club in the world that doesn't do that.
Some people think the premier league is Scotland or Germany …..it’s just beyond nuts to me that so many blues are becoming so entitled to the success- questioning Pep and the club so soon after THE MOST SUCCESSFUL PERIOD OF CLUB FOOTBALL EVER …….

I mean wtf are we becoming - maybe this is the payoffs of success, happy to take it as I never dreamed of these days for the first 30 years of my life “we are shit and we know we are” and “city till we die” etc…..the songs go on - that’s the city I will always love and be proud to support - pride in battle, we are going to claim that crown back off Liverpool, maybe not this season but I’m enjoying the rebuild !!
 
Walker, Akanji, Gündoğan, De Bruyne and Ederson all came to the end of their time with us

With no succession plan for these players, i would say that the club was culpable of mis management
We've said for years we're the best run club and don't make rash decisions
The fact we let the squad age and made rash decisions on signings proves this fact wrong

All management eventually gets fat, lazy and complacent. I don't see much wrong in what Khaldoon has done, but that is one area where eyes have been taken of the ball. Loyalty is a great virtue but sometimes ruthlessness is needed.
 
INEOS have a joint venture with Mubadala owned Nova chemicals

Mubadala Chairman is Sheikh Mansour
Mubadala CEO and MD is Khaldoon AL Mubarak
Not anymore – INEOS bought out Mubadala from their joint venture in 2010. Right now, Mubadala is orchestrating a merger of the petrochemical companies Borouge, Borealis, and Nova Chemicals. The new “supergroup” will become a pure-play giant in plastics/polyolefins, and a global competitor to INEOS.
 
I think Donnarumma isn't the best replacement.

The whole team plays a completely other way and I don't think the styles will match. Hope I'm wrong but I really have this feeling Trafford is a much better fit for City in the long term and Real will also want Donnarumma soon enough.

We'll find out I guess!
Well - he looked very good yesterday
 
“But Bellingham didn’t want to sign for us, Rice didn’t want to sign for us, Wirtz didn’t want to sign for us, Livramento hasn’t wanted to sign for us”

So the bigger question has to be, why the hell not? The most successful PL team of the last decade, what are we doing wrong that this level of player prefers our rivals every time?
Because sometimes players want to play elsewhere, plenty of players have come to City and not gone to Real think Silva, Aguero. KDB wanted to come to City when Bayern were in for him Sterling wanted City when he was at Liverpool. Haaland also only wanted to join City. If they don't want to join us fuck em.
 
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Not anymore – INEOS bought out Mubadala from their joint venture in 2010. Right now, Mubadala is orchestrating a merger of the petrochemical companies Borouge, Borealis, and Nova Chemicals. The new “supergroup” will become a pure-play giant in plastics/polyolefins, and a global competitor to INEOS.
Polyolefins.

Sounds like an Orbital b-side.
 

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