Peps Targets

[MeatHunterrr]

I think he have to loan out Fernando and Kolarov. Mangala I think we can ship off for something like £15m, Bony the same.

 

[BlueKlaude]

Agreed except Zabaleta is the type of player Pep likes: presses extremely well, good short passing, overlap runs and versatile. Hopefully we'll see more youth like Denayer, Angelino and Manu Garcia. Patrick Roberts and Enes Unal will be 20, finished loans next summer and ready to play in cup games.

Were Guardiola able to bring a player from Bayern, Alaba would be the best option - at 23, he's the world's best left-back and can play in central midfield. John Stones - another versatile option who could play in a defensive three, at center-back, right-back and potentially holding midfield. Xhaka to replace Yaya with Fernando's rotational role taken by Alaba and Stones.

Best XI next summer:

Hart (29)
Alaba, (23)
Zabaleta (31)
Otamendi (28)
Kompany (30)
John Stones (22)
Xhaka (23)
Sterling (21)
De Bruyne (24)
Silva (30)
Aguero (27)

zabas legs are gone, that we say yesterday and have seen for some time. Fernando isnt good enough simply. Kolarov and Clichy im not gonna comment on... Bony isnt good enough either. All of them will go because they arent fit for the system nor fitness level. we all love them but you have to look past the love here to go to the next level.

 

[BlueKlaude]

I think he have to loan out Fernando and Kolarov. Mangala I think we can ship off for something like £15m, Bony the same.

add clichy, Yaya and zaba to the list. n Caba

 

[Colin Bell's Boots]

After yesterday I think it's safe to say Willy, Demi and Aleks fall under the "out" category.


I most certainly hope never to see all three of them again in a City shirt.

Willy would cause panic in any defence, MDM has just got older and cannot perform anymore at this level, and Kolorov has been sh*t ever since Mancini brought him to the club, so no tears from me.

 

[bastos80]

Agreed except Zabaleta is the type of player Pep likes: presses extremely well, good short passing, overlap runs and versatile. Hopefully we'll see more youth like Denayer, Angelino and Manu Garcia. Patrick Roberts and Enes Unal will be 20, finished loans next summer and ready to play in cup games.

Were Guardiola able to bring a player from Bayern, Alaba would be the best option - at 23, he's the world's best left-back and can play in central midfield. John Stones - another versatile option who could play in a defensive three, at center-back, right-back and potentially holding midfield. Xhaka to replace Yaya with Fernando's rotational role taken by Alaba and Stones.

Best XI next summer:

Hart (29)
Alaba, (23)
Zabaleta (31)
Otamendi (28)
Kompany (30)
John Stones (22)
Xhaka (23)
Sterling (21)
De Bruyne (24)
Silva (30)
Aguero (27)

I really don't know what motivation Alaba would have to move from Bayern to City just to keep playing at left back.

 

[Dax777]

I mean really, to justify your pitiful assessment, you gave me the link of 2nd leg of Dortmund's Champions League semi-final? Even though they had already beaten Real Madrid by 4-1 in the first leg?
Get a grip or ask the clueless in charge when his players tried to press high up the pitch and Gundogan dropped into the back to help get around the press. Seriously, don't even bother replying.

Don't know why some here get emotional. I'm not trying to justify an assessment. My assessment does not require your approval. I'm simply showi ng you (but more importantly anyone who mistook your bluster for reality) they can do their own observing.

Even at the height of Dortmund pressing, Gundogan was never really one of the instigator.

And for those who actually read my statement for what it is, rather than what YOU are desperately trying to make it out to be, I repeat: Neither Pogba nor Gundogan are the pressure instigators of the midfields they currently play in. Frankly, in terms of defensive aggression The both, in my opinion, are the weakest at it in their respective clubs.

This by the way is not some earth shattering news. It's quite common knowledge. Weigl, Castro, and Bender all show far more aggression at Dortmund than Gundogan, so do Khadera, Machisio and the Colombian at Juve over Pogba.

But if you believe otherwise, feel free to do so. No one is stopping you.

 

[MeatHunterrr]

add clichy, Yaya and zaba to the list. n Caba

Yeah, though I would keep Clichy for extra year and then release him as he has 1 year left and he would be decent back up, and then look to promote from academy if possible.

 

[BlueKlaude]

Don't know why some here get emotional. I'm not trying to justify an assessment. My assessment does not require your approval. I'm simply showi ng you (but more importantly anyone who mistook your bluster for reality) they can do their own observing.

Even at the height of Dortmund pressing, Gundogan was never really one of the instigator.

And for those who actually read my statement for what it is, rather than what YOU are desperately trying to make it out to be, I repeat: Neither Pogba nor Gundogan are the pressure instigators of the midfields they currently play in. Frankly, in terms of defensive aggression The both, in my opinion, are the weakest at it in their respective clubs.

This by the way is not some earth shattering news. It's quite common knowledge. Weigl, Castro, and Bender all show far more aggression at Dortmund than Gundogan, so do Khadera, Machisio and the Colombian at Juve over Pogba.

But if you believe otherwise, feel free to do so. No one is stopping you.

Bender, castro nor Weigl doesnt have passing range nor creativity that gundogan has. He is their heart except for Reus and Auba. Its really inaccurate to say that Gundogan isnt an instigator.. you should watch them play more than once. If pep rates a player , there isnt many others better.

 

[BlueKlaude]

Yeah, though I would keep Clichy for extra year and then release him as he has 1 year left and he would be decent back up, and then look to promote from academy if possible.

Angelino shoudlve done better than Kolarov for one yesterday. Angelino should be 2nd choice to whoever we sign at leftback in the summer, not Clichy. same with rightback. We should have sagna as 2nd choice to whoever we sign and use denayer as a 3rd option to all defensive positions. Denayer is a the kind of player who preforms everywhere.

 

[Dax777]

Bender, castro nor Weigl doesnt have passing range nor creativity that gundogan has. He is their heart except for Reus and Auba. Its really inaccurate to say that Gundogan isnt an instigator.. you should watch them play more than once. If pep rates a player , there isnt many others better.

I rate Gundogan. Everyone does. And I've watched him more times thfact need to, to form an opinion.

I was not speaking to his abilities in general, its well documented that he is phenomenal as the fulcrum of a team. No one doubts or questiond thst. I was just musing over the fact that we were linked to both him and Pogba. I think on purely defensive effort, he and Pogba are the weakest members of their squads midfield quartets.

Of course if I had a choice of all of Dortmund's midfielders, I'd take Gundogan. Everyone will. Same with Pogba at Juve. That said, this doesn't negate the fact they are both the weakest midfielders on their squad's defensively.

I was simply musing about that fact. Until Sam decided to go all 'Gun-ho' on me as if I said something earth shatteringly wrong.

 

[BlueKlaude]

I rate Gundogan. Everyone does. And I've watched him more times thfact need to, to form an opinion.

I was not speaking to his abilities in general, its well documented that he is phenomenal as the fulcrum of a team. No one doubts or questiond thst. I was just musing over the fact that we were linked to both him and Pogba. I think on purely defensive effort, he and Pogba are the weakest members of their squads midfield quartets.

Of course if I had a choice of all of Dortmund's midfielders, I'd take Gundogan. Everyone will. Same with Pogba at Juve. That said, this doesn't negate the fact they are both the weakest midfielders on their squad's defensively.

I was simply musing about that fact. Until Sam decided to go all 'Gun-ho' on me as if I said something earth shatteringly wrong.

they will fit in the system. Pellegrini is ruining our team cuz he has not clear system for the midfielders to work with. Xhaka would sit behind them both in a 433 and that system which pep works with is ALWAYS solid defensively. Gundogan and Pogba would make such improvment on yaya and fernando, or Xhaka included.

 

[richards30]

Gundogan
Pogba
Xhaka
Bernat
Piccini
Laporte
Sane

Hart
Piccini
Kompany
Laporte
Bernat
Xhaka
Gundogan
Pogba
De Bruyne
Silva
Aguero

 

[CΛL]

Can't see Laporte or Stones happening and I honestly don't believe we need another CB with Denayer returning. Just two new fullbacks, a couple midfielders and possibly a winger.

 

[Dax777]

they will fit in the system. Pellegrini is ruining our team cuz he has not clear system for the midfielders to work with. Xhaka would sit behind them both in a 433 and that system which pep works with is ALWAYS solid defensively. Gundogan and Pogba would make such improvment on yaya and fernando, or Xhaka included.

I don't doubt they will. And I hope we get both or all 3 plus a leftback.

 

[Dax777]

Can't see Laporte or Stones happening and I honestly don't believe we need another CB with Denayer returning. Just two new fullbacks, a couple midfielders and possibly a winger.

Denayer will be the fullback in my opinion. Don't know if we'll get a center back or not, but I hope we do. Solve the half a season Kompany problem once and for all.

 

[CΛL]

Denayer will be the fullback in my opinion. Don't know if we'll get a center back or not, but I hope we do. Solve the half a season Kompany problem once and for all.

Could well be. I think he'll be used in both roles and possibly elsewhere. I don't think we'll need another, we'll have Denayer coming in to replace Demi which means 4 top class centre halves which will all improve and fare better in Peps system.

 

[bastos80]

------------------ Agüero -------------------------
--- Sterling ------------------- De Bruyne ------
----------- Silva ---------- Pogba -----------------
------------------- Xhaka ---------------------------
Gaya ---- Laporte ----- Kompany ----- Zabaleta
-------------------- Hart ---------------------------

That would be quite some team actually.

 

[birchwoodgingerste]

We won't risk piccinini after a bad injury either

 

[Dax777]

Could well be. I think he'll be used in both roles and possibly elsewhere. I don't think we'll need another, we'll have Denayer coming in to replace Demi which means 4 top class centre halves which will all improve and fare better in Peps system.

I hope so. Not sold on Mangala. And every summer we think we are fine, and then Komp goes down for a long period and we looked fukked.

 

[BlueKlaude]

I hope so. Not sold on Mangala. And every summer we think we are fine, and then Komp goes down for a long period and we looked fukked.

In a proper system under Pep all of our central defenders will actually preform. Pellegrinis system exposes our defense and makes our defenders look crap. wont happen anymore. Keeping the 3 we have now and adding Denayer to Demi is all that we need in central defense. I think a lot of our fans dont rate Denayer, which is weird. He can play fullback, centrally n defensive mid. The lads passes better than most in our current team and i was furious that he got left out for Demi last summer. Anyways, we should focus our funds on fullbacks, central midfielders and a winger.