EU referendum

EU referendum

  • In

    Votes: 503 47.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 547 52.1%
  • Total voters
    1,050
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jimmy blue shoes said:
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So his 'evidence' in his own words comes down to his opinion that he sees it as 'valuable' to remain and then goes on to say we need to be at the table in order to change the EU from within. Christ!
Has he been asleep for the past few weeks and not registered that Cameron was sent back with piddling concessions that have yet to be ratified after our vote has been made and there will be no chance of that happening. Does he not recognise that the European Treaties are set in stone and that the ECJ will never change anything? Wasted 16 minutes of my life watching that. :-)
 
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The whole thing is making my head explode so trying my best to avoid the news apart from sport of course.

Despite the sight of the that prick Geldof on his boat and the sanctimonious smug tirades of Guardianistas I think the remain campaign will prevail in a similar scenario to the referendum north of the border. Do I know what's for the best ?, do I buggery, all I know folk on both sides have made me want to puke, roll on Friday.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
There's this myth that bookies somehow have access to information that the rest of us don't and this drives the odds. Quite simply, odds are driven by the relative weight of money on each outcome. If someone bet £200 on Remain and someone else bets £100 on Leave, the bookie calculates that if Remain wins and he pays out more than £300 then he's lost money. So the odds reflect that.
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Bookies don't care about the outcome in terms of what they want the outcome to be. They will lay off bets so that they make money in nearly every or most cases. The worst outcome for Themis a well backed favourite winning.

That is what makes me think, looking at the betting pattern here that there must have been some huge sums bet on remaining.
 
Mancini Manus Domini said:
From the article you quoted:-

Defence Secretary and Remain campaigner Michael Fallon ruled out the prospect of the UK ever joining an EU army, back in May.

"Our security rests on Nato. No one seriously disputes that. Britain will never be part of an EU army," he said.

"We have a veto on all EU defence matters and we would oppose any move to create one. In fact, I don't know any European defence minister who wants a European army," Mr Fallon added.

It's not a case of Britain hindering Europe. Barack Obama says he wants us in the EU, a like minded partner, and someone who has similar views to America (the largest contributor to NATO).
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Field Marshal Guthrie begs to differ.
 
SWP's back said:
Sort of but no. You're meant to receive an amount based on what you pay in. However what you pay in doesn't get invested into a pot anywhere, you payments in this June will go to some retired person(s) in July.
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Hence the phrase not a pot to piss in:-)
Am I right?
 
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BlueHammer85 said:
Haha. Proof Brexiters just don't want to here the remain arguments.
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Forgive me but two points....

This is hardly proof Brexiters don't want to hear the remain arguements.... perhaps he'd just seen enough.

Secondly, Yphrunts does not represent Brexiters, he represents himself and ver well too. For you to suggest otherwise is about as valid as me suggesting all Remainers are West Ham fans.... just because you are. Stupid isn't it. Anyway at least you try to score points so well done for the effort!
 
urban genie said:
Traffic jams in Kent or anywhere else are down to successive governmemts terrible handling of our infrastructure and public transport systems, our roads were built mainly when cars were not in abundance.

Also on this I have a family with an 18 yr old son as a neighbour, this bloke has his own business with 2 vans and him, his wife and the lad all have a car each, just cause there's a lot of cars it could be 3 from one household on the road at the same time, got nowt to do with more people coming in, what was once one family car you now get several in one family.
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Traffic management is down to what we can afford to do within a timescale and the land resources available. You cannot expand our cities and towns without encroaching on the green belt. The fact that the Greens don't make any connection to this at all is enlightening. The only way is to build upwards or overhead. You might have a vision for parts of this country to look like Hong Kong. I don't share that vision with comfort.

So your proposal to counteract the congestion on the roads is to limit the freedom of individuals to own more than one car? Serious question.
 
YPhrunts said:
So your proposal to counteract the congestion on the roads is to limit the freedom of individuals to own more than one car? Serious question.
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no but an increase in cars in reference to the number of people coming into the country is a nonsense, as the point is more and more households have more than one car now than say 20 years agao
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
There's this myth that bookies somehow have access to information that the rest of us don't and this drives the odds. Quite simply, odds are driven by the relative weight of money on each outcome. If someone bet £200 on Remain and someone else bets £100 on Leave, the bookie calculates that if Remain wins and he pays out more than £300 then he's lost money. So the odds reflect that.
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What's the odds on there being a new pound shop in Prestwich where you can go to celebrate if there is an out vite
Prestwich_Blue said:
PMSL at that. He fought to end German military domnation of Europe and we've ended up with German political & financial domination of Europe. Same result but without the jackboots and panzers.
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You can hardly blame the Germans for Prestwich being dominated by pound shops! You definitely get your Euors worth!
 
Tim of the Oak said:
What's the odds on there being a new pound shop in Prestwich where you can go to celebrate if there is an out vite


You can hardly blame the Germans for Prestwich being dominated by pound shops! You definitely get your Euors worth!
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Have you got anything sensible to contribute to this debate or are you just intent on trolling?
 
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