11 | Jeremy Doku - 2024/25

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i am begging for Doku to become consistent and dangerous, i really hope it works, but his standard footballing acumen is quite poor, e.g. square balls inside, crossing, tracking back. Needs to be a bit part player for another season, treated like a youth player really, but our squad/form doesnt seem to allow.
 
We CANNOT expect players to chip in and score goals when they never really have, poor recruitment.
Its not poor recruitment, its by design. The expectation is that goals are less distributed among the players now because Haaland is only there to finish moves. The problem arises in the connection between Doku and Haaland because Doku is a player who dribbles from the side and then squares it off or crosses, but Haaland is a player that wants through balls and that is not Doku's strength, same as getting on the end of crosses isn't Haaland's strength. You'd expect given the importance of this connection that Pep works on it, but he has clearly done squat to improve it.
 
Its not poor recruitment, its by design. The expectation is that goals are less distributed among the players now because Haaland is only there to finish moves. The problem arises in the connection between Doku and Haaland because Doku is a player who dribbles from the side and then squares it off or crosses, but Haaland is a player that wants through balls and that is not Doku's strength, same as getting on the end of crosses isn't Haaland's strength. You'd expect given the importance of this connection that Pep works on it, but he has clearly done squat to improve it.

Pep made it clear at the start of last season that he wanted Doku to be effective on the right. He also started some early games this season with Doku on the right and Savinho on the left.

In at least one of those games Doku signalled that he wanted to move back onto the left at the first opportunity.

I think he wants traditional wingers to provide for his striker but Doku just isn't that guy at this point.
 
Needs far more time and like many has had a hamstring injury that kept him out for a month that has meant its stop , start for him this season.

Unavailable for 66 games in the past 3 seasons plus also is a concern most of them from muscle tears.

If he isn't a regular starter by this time next season because of injury or form then I would be starting to ask questions about his tenure at the club but the jury is still out on him.

Can create an opening and with some better finishing has shown albeit not enough so far can score goals from distance something we really lack in the side at present.
 
As a Rennes fan who watched him a lot before he came to City, I repeatedly posted on here, whenever we were linked, that I didn't think he was a Pep player or a City player, in the slightest. And there were several former Rennes wingers I'd have rather seen at City before him, from Dembele to Raphinha.

Doku has always looked raw as fuck. Fast and tricky, but with little end product and not much of a tactical brain, based on some of the choices he makes with and without the ball.

That's why I was pretty astonished when we did actually sign him, but I remained hopeful and thought that, under Pep and surrounded by proper top class players to learn from, his rough edges might start rounding out and he'd learn much more about the tactical side of the game.

But, for now at least, he just hasn't. He's got wonderfully tricky feet and a fantastic burst of pace, but he so often goes down dead ends, gives it away incredibly cheaply, and doesn't contribute enough going back. If you took his trickery, pace, and long shots, and combined it with Grealish's composure and work rate all over the pitch, you might start to have the foundings of a proper top end winger. But that's the story of our whole squad at the minute, to be honest, too many players who just feel like bit parts, not enough "full packages" for a team of our standing.

Still time for him to come good, of course, but I have seen the same inconsistencies and issues in his game for so long now, I do wonder if it'll ever "click" for him or not.
 
I have defended him on many occasions but yesterday he was awful. He fell over time and time again.

However what else do we have for now. We should be playing him and Savio in preparation for next season. Let’s see if they can find form. If not then the club need to be looking at alternatives.

Both suffer horribly when it comes to a good run of games to showcase if they truly have it or not.
 
A young player who we shouldn't be relying on at this stage but injuries and a lack of investment have forced us to. He's inconsistent and we need our young players to deliver as our older players clearly have lost it. We need to bring in additional talent to drive the standards from the likes of Doku. So he knows, perform like that and he's out the side. It's harsh but it's how we got to where we did. One mistake and you're on the bench, no excuses. You deliver with the ball and you work your arse off without it. That goes for everyone, no passengers.
 
He’s a lazy fucker when it comes to tracking back. The left back has no chance when he’s playing.

Because of that, he needs to be dishing out numbers going forward. And he isn’t.

It’s hard to see him anything other than a fantastic impact player right now. Seems to be best when he can come on against a knackered defence.
 
He’s a lazy fucker when it comes to tracking back. The left back has no chance when he’s playing.

Because of that, he needs to be dishing out numbers going forward. And he isn’t.

It’s hard to see him anything other than a fantastic impact player right now. Seems to be best when he can come on against a knackered defence.
That’s exactly how he should be utilised coming off the bench to hit tired legs and make an impact. His overall game is way off the level required to be starting games. He losses the ball regularly both trying to beat players and with sloppy passes and it puts us on the back foot.
 
That’s exactly how he should be utilised coming off the bench to hit tired legs and make an impact. His overall game is way off the level required to be starting games. He losses the ball regularly both trying to beat players and with sloppy passes and it puts us on the back foot.

Not sure he is intelligent enough to make proper use of his abilities, decision making being totally absent from his locker.

Never seems to learn from making the same mistakes over and over.
 
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The amount of people who supported this fraud coming here and Palmer leaving was a dime a dozen. It was blatant ignorance for people to claim Doku would have been as good as Mahrez. Zero football intelligence, pure showboating and no end product. What did people expect? Surely they would have known this would have been the result.
 
our scouting is very off since the treble. we need to go back to the way of signing players like Dias, Ederson, Bernardo, KDB, Sterling, Gundogan, Mahrez etc.

Doku, Kovacic, Nunes, these need to be very cheap signings as they re only squad filler, bench players generally. Kovacic was cheap and for that role is an ok signing. but Nunes and Doku at 50m+ fee. This category needs to be signed at the cost of Savinho, Echeverri or Akanji, Alvarez etc.

to think Grealish, Doku, Nunes, Phillips set us back more than 260m or so. this a big drop compared to those names listed above.
 
As a fan of Doku I am super critical of his deficiencies, but some of the criticism here is both superficial and over the top. First of all Doku is possibly the best dribbler on the planet. His on ball technique is worldclass. That is an insane potential if he develops into a more all rounded package. We're talking possibly one of the best players in the world. You don't get that in someone like Savinho so you pay a premium for that.

So the question is how to get him closer to that package. In order to do that you need to understand what his deficiencies actually are, and just parroting "production, end product, productivity" in a vacuum is really shallow and misses the point. The question is how do you get him in a situation where he makes more impact and also develops more. On this forum people constantly do that for Haaland, but not for Doku.

IMO it has to be coaching negligence that he isn't constantly shown videos about where he is on the pitch and where he should be. His lack of movement is the problem. Watch this at 2:32





This is a run he needs to make every match, all the fucking time when he can't get past two defenders with the ball, but for some reason he doesn't and just passes the ball back or stands (doesn't have to be a one two). Get this fixed and half of the problem with his "end product" will disappear.
 
As a fan of Doku I am super critical of his deficiencies, but some of the criticism here is both superficial and over the top. First of all Doku is possibly the best dribbler on the planet. His on ball technique is worldclass. That is an insane potential if he develops into a more all rounded package. We're talking possibly one of the best players in the world. You don't get that in someone like Savinho so you pay a premium for that.

So the question is how to get him closer to that package. In order to do that you need to understand what his deficiencies actually are, and just parroting "production, end product, productivity" in a vacuum is really shallow and misses the point. The question is how do you get him in a situation where he makes more impact and also develops more. On this forum people constantly do that for Haaland, but not for Doku.

IMO it has to be coaching negligence that he isn't constantly shown videos about where he is on the pitch and where he should be. His lack of movement is the problem.
You’re claiming Doku is the best dribbler on the planet, claiming his ball technique is world class. Wow that is some statement. Then you claim his deficiencies are due to the coaches at city are being negligent with him.

Let’s for arguments sake say you are correct. Seen as you have listed yourself as a Madrid fan how much do you think he would cost Madrid to buy? How much do you think Madrid would sell Rodrygo to City?
 
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