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ThisTyson would just need one punch in his pomp and Ali would be on his arse.
Tyson in his pomp had it all.
ThisTyson would just need one punch in his pomp and Ali would be on his arse.
Tyson in his pomp had it all.
No joke. David Haye was a similar size and style to Ali and didn't come close to hurting Klitschko. Klitschko is the second longest reigning champion ever. Only Joe Louis has reigned longer.
David Haye was nothing like Ali, the only similarity was that they were lightweight and quick for heavyweights.
Klitschko maybe is second longest reigning yes but that's because the standards have dropped massively,
By modern standards both Haye and Ali were blown up cruiserweights. Ali in his day was actually thought of as a pretty big heavyweight being just over 15 stone. A lot of Ali's opponents weren't heavyweights at all by today's standards being below 200 lbs.Tyson was also a similar weight to Ali but coming later often fought guys heavier than himself. Modern day standards haven't dropped massively, it's just that the Klitschko brothers have dominated the division for so long. Wladimar Klitschko has beaten far more guys who were undefeated than Ali ever did.The truth is modern day heavyweights are about 2-3 stone heavier than they were in Ali's day. Tyson fought at the start of this era. His peak didn't last long but at that time he was the best we'd seen. You can argue about whether the young Tyson was better than the old Lewis as they came from the same era but peaked at different times but the young Tyson would have beaten Ali.
Your argument falls down when you consider Foreman, one of the hardest punchers the sport has known, a 31 year old Ali beat him, like he would have Tyson. Ali was also robbed of his peak years and was undefeated before it, Tyson wasnt the mighty Buster Douglas saw to that. Tyson was also beaten by Holyfield a blown up crusierweight himself. If Tyson was so good, why did he duck Lewis for over 10 years, paying money not to fight him? They sparred when they were younger, when Tyson was so called amazing, Tyson knew exactly what he would have faced with Lewis, and wanted none of it, the so called baddest man on the planet. Lennox was far bigger, had a great jab, a concussive right, his main problem was a perception that he was a cautious fighter and not explosive like Tyson. Tyson being the best ever really is a myth, he is nowhere near, his only win against a top fighter was Larry Holmes who had been retired for 3 years and was nearly 40, anyone can look spectacular beating up bums, look at Anthony Joshua.
I would suggest they go further back, and see just how good Joe Louis was.Ali would win
I never liked Ali but he was a fantastic boxer who had skill speed and strength and an incredible amount of ring craft making him arguable the greatest of all time.
Tyson would have a punchers chance but I do not think Tyson would have got near enough to land a big punch Any younger fight fans who have tipped Tyson need to go on you tube and see just how good Ali actually was.