If the exact same players as Haaland and Rodri was playing for clubs in the bottom 10 then apparently for some they would not be considered World Class. seems silly to me
I can see both viewpoints here and fully understand what you are saying.
But I do think when you consider whether a players/sportsmen is performing to the highest level showing those attributes against the best players on the biggest stages is a pretty important measurement.
It would be difficult to gauge how good Haaland is for example, if he was just banging in the goals against lesser keepers and players but watching him achieve this against the worlds best defenders and teams is definitely an important barometer.
I don't agree you necessarily have to have won the trophies though. Shearer is an example of a player who performed at the highest level, but won very little, which was more due to the players alongside him.
Ive not read all the thread but I think if the discussion still centres around Paqueta I was not massively keen on us signing him in the summer, but since our interest Ive paid more attention and I was probably wrong coming to that conclusion.
Im not being facetious here, and I know they are different players, but do you think he is having a much better season than James Maddison and would you consider him world class?
For the record I think to be world class you have to be really in the top 4/5 players in your position in the world.
I would say at City Rodri does not have an equal as DM, KDB is one of the top three attacking midfielders and Haaland falls in that bracket along with the likes of Kane, Salah, Mbappe. Arguments could also be made for others but I would not say as clean cut as those three.