Arsenal Thread 2013/14
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JoeMercer'sWay
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agree with Hoeness on that, City should have been offering Blackburn free to cup schemers as an apology for creating an extra game imo, applaud Bayern for that one.
English clubs need to do much more on ticketing for fans.
English clubs need to do much more on ticketing for fans.
BayernMan said:
That's funny, their season ticket prices are on this website and with the exception of a few blocks every single one of them is more expensive than £104. Many are priced at more than £650
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.fcbayern.de/de/tickets/jahreskarten/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.fcbayern.de/de/tickets/jahreskarten/</a>
Never buy anything those twats at Munich say, they are a bunch of lying cunts getting a reputation by slagging off English football whenever they can
Damocles said:
Why? Can you get into the stadium so cheap? Anywhere in England? We are talking of a club that could get its stadium full even when they would charge double or more for the most matches... A stadium that has been sold out for every match since years. For a team that could sell 18000 tickets or probably even more for an away match in England (not a final, just in the round of 16)... - an English club in that situation probably would really charge much as just the money seems to count in the EPL...
He did not talk about all tickets, or? The quote is 2 or 3 years old - and then the standing tickets cost £ 104. That is the blocks you are talking about - and that is where the ultras stand.
The cheapest season ticket for seating (without the ones for handicaped and kids/pupils) cost 340 EUR right now - or 280 £. And yes, it goes up to about £650.
It is very difficult to get season tickets - it is nearly senseless to set yourself onto the waiting list for the tickets as there is ten thousands waiting and not more than maybe 10 every year that do not get renewed...
If Bayern would try to get the most out of their match day income they could charge much more. That is what English clubs would do - and that is what might be the difference. Bayern does not do it with the normal fans - but they do it with the VIP seats and VIP boxes.
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Maldeika said:
A few points Maldeika.... did you sell out against us? I saw thousands of empty seats in the stadium, and yes, I was there. Plus, don't make me laugh, you wouldn't sell 18k tickets for a round of 16 match here.
Our cheapest season ticket, which is seated, is £299.
Don't make me laugh, there will be 100's who for whatever reason cannot/do not renew, financial situation etc.
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BayernMan said:
Is Uli the chap who is tax cheat?
Bilboblue said:
Then let me answer:
The match against City was sold out. There is 16000 orders for away tickets for the Arsenal - Bayern match. I do not think that the Bayern homepage lies.
Ain't the £299 the price for the proposed new areas for 2015/16 after the extension - if I see it right your ticket prices start right now at £450. Or do I see that wrong. And you do not have a cheaper option for normal viewers.
Actually - it is like this. But let it even be 100 or 200 each year that do not renew - it would take more than 10 years to get in the favour even if it would be 1000 persons that would not renew...
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People are willing to pay more to watch the premier league with all its twists and turns than watch Bayern +1 (the +1 have all their star players bought by Bayern to stop them really competing).BayernMan said:Hard to believe these prices are common in England
Btw that match wasn't sold out, you could clearly see at least 10,000 empty seats on the tv.
JoeMercer'sWay said:
They could have easily done it. It would have been a good gesture. a
In Ireland, in the hurling final, it was a draw..it's never a draw, it was only the second time it's ever happened in a final.
It was only the second time it had ever ended in a replay, ironically it happened the year before as well.
Nobody planned for one..it wouldn't have been one had it not been for some blatant Fergie time but that's another story. A draw suited nobody, except the neutrals. It was supposed to be the last game of the year. Training was finished, work was booked off by the players etc. It was a big pain in the hole for supporters and players a like. Anti climax from an outstanding game, either way we were all expecting an ending, win or lose.
They made a fortune off the final. It was sold out, it was one of the best games of the year. Tickets were in high demand. People were willing to sell their grans for a ticket.
They decided against charging full price for the final.
They cut tickets. €80 to €50 and terrace prices cut from €40 to €25 and juvenile tickets for €10.
They didn't have to, nobody gets paid, the money goes to the governing body, not to the teams or players. They could have charged the same, but two years in a row they cut the prices.
If an amateur organisation can do it, I can't understand how we couldn't do the same.
Money first, fans after.<br /><br />-- Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:35 pm --<br /><br />Massive respect for Bayern. They run their club well, with their fans at the heart of it. They understand that the fans are at the most important thing. You can argue that that's sentimental and that it's all about business, but without the fans, there is no business.
I've a lot of time for German football in general, their league is a good quality, their international team is excellent, and the majority of their players are in Germany. That's is England's downfall, well one of them anyway. The English teams are sprinkled with English players, maybe England would do a little bit better if we didn't rely so heavily on foreign talent to make the premiership "entertaining".
Treat the fans well and they'll stick with you. But with us, we stick with them when we're down but get frozen out when we do well.
aguero93:20 said:People are willing to pay more to watch the premier league with all its twists and turns than watch Bayern +1 (the +1 have all their star players bought by Bayern to stop them really competing).BayernMan said:Hard to believe these prices are common in England
Btw that match wasn't sold out, you could clearly see at least 10,000 empty seats on the tv.
Based on those figures, making some assumptions and scribbling some calculations on the back of a fag packet, I'd estimate annual gate income for Arsenal at £75m and City at £35m.
You can see why they built the Emirates.
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sorry Gillespie, not trying to disparage the point you've made, but there's various costs associated with a home match as well, ticket income is a minor part of any clubs income, commercial revenue and tv rights are much bigger so ticket prices/income really is a scam on fans a lot of the time (btw I was on the wind up above)Gillespie said:aguero93:20 said:People are willing to pay more to watch the premier league with all its twists and turns than watch Bayern +1 (the +1 have all their star players bought by Bayern to stop them really competing).BayernMan said:Hard to believe these prices are common in England
Btw that match wasn't sold out, you could clearly see at least 10,000 empty seats on the tv.
Based on those figures, making some assumptions and scribbling some calculations on the back of a fag packet, I'd estimate annual gate income for Arsenal at £75m and City at £35m.
You can see why they built the Emirates.
Gillespie said:
If you look at Arsenal there is a big discrepancy to the commercial income of other clubs - not only to the Germans that really built on it as they have lower income from TV money and matchday - but compared to the other top EPL teams. It seems somehow that they never really looked into this side of income too much even if they could have made that a lot better as they have a big fan base.
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Let's face it, Bayern are just so much better at everything than we are and that will always be the case because we are a jumped up no history team* who are only successful because of spending money we don't deserve, whilst the mighty Bayern Munich don't need wages because they only pay for their players' food and travel expenses and let their amazing fans into matches for free. We should give up and bow down to them because us commoners have no right even dreaming of calling ourselves their equals.
*(founded 6 years before them but don't let facts ruin the 'truth'.)
*(founded 6 years before them but don't let facts ruin the 'truth'.)
Maldeika said:
You mad, mad, mad, mad, mad, mad bastard.
Arsenal's commercial revenue is extremely low because they made a highly frontloaded deal to help pay for their new stadium.
It's not because "they never looked into it unlike your superior German master race" but because they were locked into contracts lasting 10 years, during which time the commercial revenue of all Clubs has risen by about a million percent.
We've been in Europe only for a couple of years and our commercial revenue is only £30m behind yours and expected to surpass it in 2015.
You're the German Celtic and your achievements in 10 years will mean as much as theirs.
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Damocles said:
ah come on, Heynckes did a great job.
Bilboblue
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Cheap tickets at Bayern, subsidised by 85 euro shirts.
Anyway, this is the Arsenal thread lads.
Anyway, this is the Arsenal thread lads.
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