Article 50/Brexit Negotiations

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Germany are the country most politically and economically committed to the EU.
As regards the economics, the Euro is a massive benefit to Germany who are a hugely successful exporting nation.If it were not for the single currency they would have a strong and overpriced Deutschmark which would severely reduce the competitiveness of their exports.
Hence it is Germany's interests first and foremost to have a strong EU and anything that jeopardizes the existence of the bloc ( for instance by giving an existing member a good economic deal to leave) represents a major risk to the German economy.
Sure there will be some lobbying by German industry but they know which side their bread is buttered on.
Exactly. So stop buying f*cking German cars!!!!!!!
 
Philip Hammond and Liam Fox’s Brexit transition plan is a pipe dream...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/14/eu-brexit-transition-period-liam-fox-philip-Hammond

Can any Brexiter critique this? I really would like to know why this is typical remoaner nonsense.

Of course they can't, because it's simple and factual and patently true.

Every day I read similar opinions to his, from economists and business leaders and political advisors. Maybe I am suffering from confirmation bias, but I haven't seen one which didn't make me feel sick to the stomach about the mess we are in.
 
In the news today German politicians vexed that people in Germany speak English :)

I can see his point, he was annoyed at cafes in Berlin using English instead of German. It wasn't so much annoyance at English specifically, more so them not speaking the national language in the capital.
 
Hello Campers.
The new Hammond /Fox EU accord is beginning to unravel.
Apparently in any transition period the UK are not prepared to accept temporary membership of the customs union but will propose membership of a temporary customs union (details of which are to be submitted by the UK - Sky News).
You could make it up Jeff, but I'm not.
 
really shouldn't check this thread before starting work as it starts the day on a complete downer.

but in the spirit of things...

experts eh?

 
It's all clear guys.
The UK will leave THE customs union in the interim period and join A customs union with the EU which will be exactly the same as err........THE customs union ( obviously with one proviso that we will be allowed to negotiate trade deals that obviously the EU will agree to).
After the interim period the Government is to devise innovative and technological solutions that enable us to continue to trade tariff free with the EU without having to meet any of the obligations that other EU members have to , obviously which the EU will have no difficulty agreeing to again.
All clear Gary,Jeff?
 
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In the news today German politicians vexed that people in Germany speak English :)

One thing for sure is we won't get English politicians vexed that English people speak German. Kein Problem.

really shouldn't check this thread before starting work as it starts the day on a complete downer.

but in the spirit of things...

experts eh?



I'd recommend Brexiters at least watch from minute 10 on new immigration controls.
 
One thing for sure is we won't get English politicians vexed that English people speak German. Kein Problem.



I'd recommend Brexiters at least watch from minute 10 on new immigration controls.

I think he was of the opinion that leaving the eu is bad.

Ah well.
 
This is what happens when you have Remainers in charge of Brexit, it's going to the dogs.

I've kind of accepted and made peace Brexit won't ever happen in the way that would actually benefit the country (half in and half out is actually the worst deal and worse then no deal and WTO people will see)

I'm just waiting for the next general election when it will be "Brexiteers revenge" and tasty as f***. Everyone I speak to on the street (white van men, local businesses who are struggling to make ends meet because of EU's "red tape") is tired of Brexit and wants the country to get on with actually Leaving the EU, it is only "big businesses" who are the ones destroying this country (overpricing EVERYTHING! wanting more foreign immigrants to overpopulate the UK) who seem to want us to stay in, or students sad because they can't go on their extravagant holidays and roaming charges.

We should've had a Prime Minister who actually voted for Leave and believed in it, we never had that chance.. sadly. Who knows how differently things would've turned out (what history would show) if a Brexiteer was Prime Minister. It's not like there isn't options.. Boris, Priti, Moggs..

Philip Hammond and Teresa May are jokes who need to be sacked. Liam Fox is poised, ready and waiting to go and strike international trade deals.

The UK was handed a fantastic oppourtunity to turn us into Global Britain (leading the way in the World), but Remainers seem to want to us into Little Britain out of spite/revenge.
 
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This is what happens when you have Remainers in charge of Brexit, it's going to the dogs.

I've kind of accepted and made peace Brexit won't ever happen in the way that would actually benefit the country (half in and half out is actually the worst deal and worse then no deal and WTO people will see)

I'm just waiting for the next general election when it will be "Brexiteers revenge" and tasty as f***. Everyone I speak to on the street (white van men, local businesses who are struggling to make ends meet because of EU's "red tape") is tired of Brexit and wants the country to get on with actually Leaving the EU, it is only "big businesses" who are the ones destroying this country (overpricing EVERYTHING! wanting more foreign immigrants to overpopulate the UK) who seem to want us to stay in, or students sad because they can't go on their extravagant holidays and roaming charges.

We should've had a Prime Minister who actually voted for Leave and believed in it, we never had that chance.. sadly. Who knows how differently things would've turned out (what history would show) if a Brexiteer was Prime Minister. It's not like there isn't options.. Boris, Priti, Moggs..

Philip Hammond and Teresa May are jokes who need to be sacked. Liam Fox is poised, ready and waiting to go and strike international trade deals.

"Boris, Priti, Moggs"??

Apparently part of the problem is that there are hardly any senior civil servants who support Brexit.
 
It's all clear guys.
The UK will leave THE customs union in the interim period and join A customs union with the EU which will be exactly the same as err........THE customs union ( obviously with one proviso that we will be allowed to negotiate trade deals that obviously the EU will agree to).
After the interim period the Government is to devise innovative and technological solutions that enable us to continue to trade tariff free with the EU without having to meet any of the obligations that other EU members have to , obviously which the EU will have no difficulty agreeing to again.
All clear Gary,Jeff?

Again, this is because of Remainers in the cabinet who are making us look very amateur to the EU by begging for more porridge.

Brexiteers want a clear break.
 
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