Streeting was on gmb this morning and admitted it was part of his religion that he was voting against it , why should 400 ish people who are shit scared to vote it through have power over the rest of us, it is not rightAsking a bunch of barely literate people who don’t understand the complexities of it sounds like a solid idea.
MPs represent their constituents and if they sense their constituents want it they will vote for it. Email your local MP, maybe refrain from calling him/her a twat ;)
I do think it needs longer to be debated however - let’s have an honest and open discussion about it. Led by experts and the MPs can then an informed decision. Without time you feel an MP will likely opt to maintain the status quo if they lack information.
My Dad was hooked up to allsorts for 2 weeks before he died.That’s a really interesting question. My dad had a DNR in place when he was admitted to hospital for the last time. The ward staff / doctors were trying to actively treat which was distressing him. Mrs MB explained it wasn’t his wishes (which they validated) and they stopped active treatment and he was allowed to die peacefully.
So if we take your example of someone having overdosed if they are able to explain they don’t want active treatment to save their life I expect it would likely be an intrusion, if they aren’t able to articulate their wishes at that exact moment then medical staff would say they are acting in a patients best interests and saving their life. By the time we get to the conversation about DNRs it’s likely they would have already performed the life saving interventions. It’s definitely a very interesting dilemma you’ve posed.
Fucking religion.Streeting was on gmb this morning and admitted it was part of his religion that he was voting against it , why should 400 ish people who are shit scared to vote it through have power over the rest of us, it is not right
The amount of people being cared for and dying at home need a voice , they are not getting the pallative care you get in a hospice
Not sure if this thread has discussed whether the hospital care itself decides if a patient lives or dies.
I remember many years ago with my mum in hospital the consultant told me that if my mum had a heart attack they simply would not resuscitate her.
I argued unsuccessfully that was a fully paid up member of the NHS so deserved full coverage. He said it was hospital policy with older people in my mums condition.
She recovered and left hospital.
She died with a stroke some months later.
My point is that life or death in hospitals appears to be decided by hospitals already without consulting the patient so why this worry about a patient that wants to die?
This is true, with Hospice care considered a luxury for some.The amount of people being cared for and dying at home need a voice , they are not getting the pallative care you get in a hospice
Very true TThis is true, with Hospice care considered a luxury for some.
Its all down to the finances. Money talks.
Streeting's "religion" is donations from American Health firms.Streeting was on gmb this morning and admitted it was part of his religion that he was voting against it , why should 400 ish people who are shit scared to vote it through have power over the rest of us, it is not right
The amount of people being cared for and dying at home need a voice , they are not getting the pallative care you get in a hospice
They aren’t deadThanks for reply.
Does leaving people to die who have say taken an overdose fall into the same category? In fact is trying to save their life an intrusion using your logic?