BT Sport or BT Bias?

gmckennasell said:
owens only loyalty is to whoever pays the money , he under achieved as a footballer , wasting his talent by chasing big pay cheques , and brown nosing rags , hes a multi millionaire dont why he has to make such a tawt of himself on TV.
hopefully he lost all his money on the horses and that's why he has to work for Bitter Sports.
 
Owen is shockingly bad. Bog standard comments delivered in such a boring manner and laden with pregnant pauses as he tries desperately to figure out what to say next.

"Well (pause) he broke through there (pause) got on the end of the cross and (pause) finished it."

"You've got to feel (pause) for them. (Pause) They've really put in a shift (pause) but (pause) they've only got themselves to blame."

Shut up you monotone, boring, scouse rag faced ****.
 
MCFCinUSA said:
I was pretty horrified when it was announced Neville had secured a job as a TV pundit, but to be fair he's turned out to be one of the best on the box - and it's also impressive that he can maintain what appears to be a neutral stance, all things considered.

Whoever the hell appointed Michael Owen at BT Sport needs a rocket, as not only is the guy dreadful in his delivery, but he's absolutely shocking in his bias.

This evening we were denied a perfectly good penalty (one assumes because the referee's line of sight was obstructed) but Owen says "it hit his hands but no penalty for me" and Spurs are trying to kick lumps out of us (and getting away with several ugly challenges including two on Silva & MDM) all of which he can see with the benefit of the replay cameras, and Owen starts on about Spurs have been unlucky when eventually Rose gets sent off and we get a penalty awarded to us.

Is it me, or is Michael Owen about the worst ex-footballing 'pundit' on TV?

".. and I'll tell you this.." he makes Steve McManaman sound like a god.

Owen is a first rate wanker who knows nothing. At least he didn't slip up by calling us the rags like he did against Arsenal.
 
These people commentating on City aren't City fans. They aren't bitter. People only hear bitterness because that is what they are listening for.

Michael Owen said we were the best team in the premier league and would win it 3 times last night. He said we were a joy to watch twice.

Not everybody lives in the same City bubble we do.

the major incidents from last night

1. Dawson disallowed goal - he was onside when the ball was played.
2. Penalty and red card - never a pen, never a red card
3. Dawson on Aguero - rough but there was never any intent to use the elbow.
4. Spurs trying to kick lumps out of us. - I'd expect it, it is what happens when you are the best.
 
I added BT sport to my sky package the other day as they are showing lots of City games and my local boozer refuses to pay the extortionate fees they charge pubs for showing games.. Well I'm glad i can cancel anytime the coverage is very ameratuish and that lanky git that heads up the presenting took any opportunity to tell us all how much spurs were robbed rather that talk about the far superior city team , David Ginola spoke some sense though,the final nail in the BT coffin was that pile of tosh after the games "life's a pitch" what utter garbage.
Bye bye BT I'll go back to watching foreign channels on the tinternet, they talk more sense!
 
Esteban de la Sexface said:
These people commentating on City aren't City fans. They aren't bitter. People only hear bitterness because that is what they are listening for.

Michael Owen said we were the best team in the premier league and would win it 3 times last night. He said we were a joy to watch twice.

Not everybody lives in the same City bubble we do.

the major incidents from last night

1. Dawson disallowed goal - he was onside when the ball was played.
2. Penalty and red card - never a pen, never a red card
3. Dawson on Aguero - rough but there was never any intent to use the elbow.
4. Spurs trying to kick lumps out of us. - I'd expect it, it is what happens when you are the best.

Adebayor was offside and interfering with play.

Never a pen or red.

Dawson's shoulder barge - nothing in it.

Handball from Dzeko's shot - 50/50 could have been given, not surprised it wasn't.

Spurs were really dirty and got away with a lot.

That was my take on the game.
 
Ban-jani said:
Esteban de la Sexface said:
These people commentating on City aren't City fans. They aren't bitter. People only hear bitterness because that is what they are listening for.

Michael Owen said we were the best team in the premier league and would win it 3 times last night. He said we were a joy to watch twice.

Not everybody lives in the same City bubble we do.

the major incidents from last night

1. Dawson disallowed goal - he was onside when the ball was played.
2. Penalty and red card - never a pen, never a red card
3. Dawson on Aguero - rough but there was never any intent to use the elbow.
4. Spurs trying to kick lumps out of us. - I'd expect it, it is what happens when you are the best.

Adebayor was offside and interfering with play.

Never a pen or red.

Dawson's shoulder barge - nothing in it.

Handball from Dzeko's shot - 50/50 could have been given, not surprised it wasn't.

Spurs were really dirty and got away with a lot.

That was my take on the game.

Spurs being dirty had nothing to do with BT. That was down to Mariner refusing to show a yellow to them.

I won't question Michael Owens partiality, but I will say this, he has got the most monotonous voice I've ever heard.
 
MCFCinUSA said:
I was pretty horrified when it was announced Neville had secured a job as a TV pundit, but to be fair he's turned out to be one of the best on the box - and it's also impressive that he can maintain what appears to be a neutral stance, all things considered.

Whoever the hell appointed Michael Owen at BT Sport needs a rocket, as not only is the guy dreadful in his delivery, but he's absolutely shocking in his bias.

This evening we were denied a perfectly good penalty (one assumes because the referee's line of sight was obstructed) but Owen says "it hit his hands but no penalty for me" and Spurs are trying to kick lumps out of us (and getting away with several ugly challenges including two on Silva & MDM) all of which he can see with the benefit of the replay cameras, and Owen starts on about Spurs have been unlucky when eventually Rose gets sent off and we get a penalty awarded to us.

Is it me, or is Michael Owen about the worst ex-footballing 'pundit' on TV?

".. and I'll tell you this.." he makes Steve McManaman sound like a god.

Your right owen is wank, what he was saying last night was so biased. The sooner BT introduce via the red button a facility to turn the commentators off the better.
 
Esteban de la Sexface said:
These people commentating on City aren't City fans. They aren't bitter. People only hear bitterness because that is what they are listening for.

Michael Owen said we were the best team in the premier league and would win it 3 times last night. He said we were a joy to watch twice.

Not everybody lives in the same City bubble we do.

the major incidents from last night

1. Dawson disallowed goal - he was onside when the ball was played.
2. Penalty and red card - never a pen, never a red card
3. Dawson on Aguero - rough but there was never any intent to use the elbow.
4. Spurs trying to kick lumps out of us. - I'd expect it, it is what happens when you are the best.

On point 4, we may expect it, but we don't expect the TV 'pundits' to essentially condone it. I am not one of the 'agenda' exponents, but Owen is very clearly negative when it comes to us. It's understandable. We have replaced his first love, Man Utd, as the dominant football force and his second love, Liverpool (although those who once adored him now think he is a cnut of epic proportions), have been ousted from the top table by the likes of us and Chelsea. Add to that the fact that we turned him down when he was whoreing himself around with that pathetic self promotion brochure and we find ourself in a situation where he is inherently negative about us. He reminds me a little of Paul Merson a couple of years ago.

He was unqualified for the job but unlike Gary Neville, he has displayed no aptitude for punditry. The mixture of prejudice and ineptitude should concern BT.
 
Hung said:
Esteban de la Sexface said:
These people commentating on City aren't City fans. They aren't bitter. People only hear bitterness because that is what they are listening for.

Michael Owen said we were the best team in the premier league and would win it 3 times last night. He said we were a joy to watch twice.

Not everybody lives in the same City bubble we do.

the major incidents from last night

1. Dawson disallowed goal - he was onside when the ball was played.
2. Penalty and red card - never a pen, never a red card
3. Dawson on Aguero - rough but there was never any intent to use the elbow.
4. Spurs trying to kick lumps out of us. - I'd expect it, it is what happens when you are the best.

On point 4, we may expect it, but we don't expect the TV 'pundits' to essentially condone it. I am not one of the 'agenda' exponents, but Owen is very clearly negative when it comes to us. It's understandable. We have replaced his first love, Man Utd, as the dominant football force and his second love, Liverpool (although those who once adored him now think he is a cnut of epic proportions), have been ousted from the top table by the likes of us and Chelsea. Add to that the fact that we turned him down when he was whoreing himself around with that pathetic self promotion brochure and we find ourself in a situation where he is inherently negative about us. He reminds me a little of Paul Merson a couple of years ago.

He was unqualified for the job but unlike Gary Neville, he has displayed no aptitude for punditry. The mixture of prejudice and ineptitude should concern BT.

He said last night we were the best team in the country, playing the best football and would win the league.

Give me one example of something he said that was prejudiced against City last night?

Again, I repeat, not everyone is a City fan. If he was constantly gushing about City then he would prejudiced in the other way.

He is nowhere near as bad as Tyler and Quinn together. It seems to be a form of amusement for those two to see what they can get away with.
 
Did Ade touch the ball? If he did, he was interfering with play and it was offside and no goal. If he didn't touch it, the goal should have stood.

I don't make the rules, but the rules say interfering is being in the line of sight of goalkeeper and ball (he wasnt) or touching the ball. Trying to touch the ball does not make you offside.
 
Get the distinct impression that Owen only says anything nice about us becasue he would look like a total bellend if he didn't after some of the passages of play City produce.

If the Rags were capable of creating anything like what City can on the pitch he'd be practically spunking onto the microphone.

Thankfully they can't.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Did Ade touch the ball? If he did, he was interfering with play and it was offside and no goal. If he didn't touch it, the goal should have stood.

I don't make the rules, but the rules say interfering is being in the line of sight of goalkeeper and ball (he wasnt) or touching the ball. Trying to touch the ball does not make you offside.

His head definitely brushed the ball but even if he didnt he would still have been interfering with play.
 
Lucky Toma said:
Chippy_boy said:
Did Ade touch the ball? If he did, he was interfering with play and it was offside and no goal. If he didn't touch it, the goal should have stood.

I don't make the rules, but the rules say interfering is being in the line of sight of goalkeeper and ball (he wasnt) or touching the ball. Trying to touch the ball does not make you offside.

His head definitely brushed the ball but even if he didnt he would still have been interfering with play.

Exactly. Joe didn't know that Ade would not make a firm connection. He would have been preparing himself to make a save from Ade's header. Therefore it has affected play. Therefore offside.
 
Found Owen incredibly boring but inoffensive last night.

The guy on the pitch at half time and full time seemed pretty bitter about the ref decisions though, even though Hargreaves and Ginola were stubbornly resisting his attempt to provoke a big 'it's a travesty' fest.
 
Esteban de la Sexface said:
These people commentating on City aren't City fans. They aren't bitter. People only hear bitterness because that is what they are listening for.

Michael Owen said we were the best team in the premier league and would win it 3 times last night. He said we were a joy to watch twice.

Not everybody lives in the same City bubble we do.

the major incidents from last night

1. Dawson disallowed goal - he was onside when the ball was played.
2. Penalty and red card - never a pen, never a red card
3. Dawson on Aguero - rough but there was never any intent to use the elbow.
4. Spurs trying to kick lumps out of us. - I'd expect it, it is what happens when you are the best.

Will Spurs appeal the red card? I think they won't!
Dawson on Aguero - it was a foul any day of the week and a booking.
Spurs kicking lumps out of us? Why didn't we get a string of free kicks and a few more yellow cards. There was one incident where Silva was clearly of the opinion that a yellow card should have been issued for trying to staple his foot to the turf!

And the offside - at 100mph most linos would have given that! And without the benefit of every possible angle so would most think it was offside!

I'm all for having results of games determined by whatever has gone on during the ninety minutes, but if we are not going to adopt video technology it is quite the waste of time to drag it into the discussion and re-ref a game!
 
omcfc said:
Lucky Toma said:
Chippy_boy said:
Did Ade touch the ball? If he did, he was interfering with play and it was offside and no goal. If he didn't touch it, the goal should have stood.

I don't make the rules, but the rules say interfering is being in the line of sight of goalkeeper and ball (he wasnt) or touching the ball. Trying to touch the ball does not make you offside.

His head definitely brushed the ball but even if he didnt he would still have been interfering with play.

Exactly. Joe didn't know that Ade would not make a firm connection. He would have been preparing himself to make a save from Ade's header. Therefore it has affected play. Therefore offside.


The assistant gave the offside because he said Dawson was off. Ade didn't come into the decision making process for him.

He was wrong. We dodged a bullet. Thank fuck.
 
Lucky Toma said:
Chippy_boy said:
Did Ade touch the ball? If he did, he was interfering with play and it was offside and no goal. If he didn't touch it, the goal should have stood.

I don't make the rules, but the rules say interfering is being in the line of sight of goalkeeper and ball (he wasnt) or touching the ball. Trying to touch the ball does not make you offside.

His head definitely brushed the ball but even if he didnt he would still have been interfering with play.
MOTD and more importantly Sherwood (who,presumably had spoken the Ade) confirmed that he had. So off side debate over? Maybe the wrong reasons given by the officials but they came to the right decision.
 
Esteban de la Sexface said:
omcfc said:
Lucky Toma said:
His head definitely brushed the ball but even if he didnt he would still have been interfering with play.

Exactly. Joe didn't know that Ade would not make a firm connection. He would have been preparing himself to make a save from Ade's header. Therefore it has affected play. Therefore offside.


The assistant gave the offside because he said Dawson was off. Ade didn't come into the decision making process for him.

He was wrong. We dodged a bullet. Thank fuck.

Not doubting you mate but where did you read or hear this?
 

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