City Fans Leaving Early/Empty seats

[M18CTID]

Did you go Saturday? If so , how many you guessing? From my seat I can see the stadium except CB 1&2. I would say around 48k.

Yeah, in my usual seat. Can't see SS2 and SS3 but no chance would I have had it at nearly 7000 empties. You only have to look at the pics of the North Stand which is usually the worst for no-shows. About 200 in a stand that holds over 5000, which means it would have to be shockingly bad in all other areas of the ground.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Whilst I can see your point about the 5 games I would hope that the club would check first as to the reason for missing them. If this had been in force when I had my heart op with the complications that followed I would have been rejoining the queue for a SC!! As I was in hospital for most of the time and not in proper contact with my City friends didn't think about my season card or the seat being empty to be honest. All I wanted was to know if I would ever be fit enough to get out!! :-) As you can see I did get out but my away days are very much curtailed now unfortunately. Hey ho, I can still attend the home matches and annoy people!!

You don't have to penalise people for not attending. If the system is changed so you have to buy your seat on a match-by-match basis then, as long as you have first call on that particular seat, the problem will be solved. If you can't go, you don't buy it and the club knows it's available.

 

[BlueMoonRisin’]

Yeah, I can fully empathise with the much documented traffic problems but I don't believe everyone who left early on Saturday was parked up in one of the car parks. The numbers of early leavers were too great for that to be the case

You only have to look either direction on Ashton new road to see many are leaving on foot.

Yeah, in my usual seat. Can't see SS2 and SS3 but no chance would I have had it at nearly 7000 empties. You only have to look at the pics of the North Stand which is usually the worst for no-shows. About 200 in a stand that holds over 5000, which means it would have to be shockingly bad in all other areas of the ground.

Whether it 7000 below capacity or not, plenty of empty seats that should be filled. Be it too expensive or apathetic supporters who have seats can't be bothered, we still have seats available. Evening games is when the family stand has the most empty seats on show. We definitely have the fanbase to fill those seats, but more fans can stream live Saturday 3pm games so that's part of the reason we aren't selling out.

The bottom line is, the club know exactly how many longterm supporters are not renewing SC's each season yet they dont seem to care.

As many have said on here they have been priced out from a SC or they will be of the cost keeps rising. And buying match day tickets at £60 won't temp many back. Bluemoon forum only represents a small % of match day supporters, how many who don't go on here can't go due to cost? Like I said, with most of our matches televised on Sk and BT, plus those able to view on IPTV streams at home or in pubs, the club should be doing all they can to actually fill the stadium to capacity, not blag us that it's sold out when it clearly isn't!

Fuck off all the agencies and sell the tickets for an affordable cost to entice supporters to return to games.

They won't though as they are quite happy to sell to agencies to maximise profit. Won't be long before I throw my towel in if ththings continue. My match going support since the early 70s doesn't seem to matter much anymore.

We do not want to become like the monster we hate across town that is like a circus for tourists!!!
But we are slowly morphing into the monster we hated unfortunately!

 

[dickie davies]

Leaving early is a sign that our fan base aren’t just entertainment seekers who only come to matches to take selfies and be part of the “match day experience”

Many blues go to the match to see City win and if we’re three up with five mins left then it’s job done and we go home happy. If it’s one all or two one entering injury time then we’re more likely to hang on.

Sanctimonious keyboard warriors can naively bang on about letting city down all they want, bless em, but their blatant virtue signalling will rightly fall on deaf ears.

It’s always happened and it always will. Each to their own

That is absolute bollocks and I give you......

https://www.mancity.com/citytv/feat...terling-man-city-southampton-goal-every-angle

 

[Marvin]

That is absolute bollocks and I give you......

https://www.mancity.com/citytv/feat...terling-man-city-southampton-goal-every-angle

But clearly Saturday was nothing like that.

 

[dickie davies]

But clearly Saturday was nothing like that.

I don't get your post mate

 

[cleavers]

Yeah, I can fully empathise with the much documented traffic problems but I don't believe everyone who left early on Saturday was parked up in one of the car parks. The numbers of early leavers were too great for that to be the case

The main reason people left early on Saturday was the game was over, it finished 2 minutes into the second half, and for the last 30 minutes Pep turned it into an experimental training session, and it became dull and disjointed, and we created next to nothing in that time. Had it been close, and the full team on the pitch, in their natural positions, I doubt that many would have left.

Strangely it seemed busier than ever walking back into town afterwards.

 

[M18CTID]

You only have to look either direction on Ashton new road to see many are leaving on foot.

Whether it 7000 below capacity or not, plenty of empty seats that should be filled. Be it too expensive or apathetic supporters who have seats can't be bothered, we still have seats available. Evening games is when the family stand has the most empty seats on show. We definitely have the fanbase to fill those seats, but more fans can stream live Saturday 3pm games so that's part of the reason we aren't selling out.

The bottom line is, the club know exactly how many longterm supporters are not renewing SC's each season yet they dont seem to care.

As many have said on here they have been priced out from a SC or they will be of the cost keeps rising. And buying match day tickets at £60 won't temp many back. Bluemoon forum only represents a small % of match day supporters, how many who don't go on here can't go due to cost? Like I said, with most of our matches televised on Sk and BT, plus those able to view on IPTV streams at home or in pubs, the club should be doing all they can to actually fill the stadium to capacity, not blag us that it's sold out when it clearly isn't!

Fuck off all the agencies and sell the tickets for an affordable cost to entice supporters to return to games.

They won't though as they are quite happy to sell to agencies to maximise profit. Won't be long before I throw my towel in if ththings continue. My match going support since the early 70s doesn't seem to matter much anymore.

We do not want to become like the monster we hate across town that is like a circus for tourists!!!
But we are slowly morphing into the monster we hated unfortunately!

I might not agree with your 48,000 figure but I agree with the vast majority of that

 

[remember arthur mann]

Commented on Saturday how empty it looked just before kick-off, slowly filled up and looked pretty good, quite acceptable. Ten minutes before half time, exit stage right for a pie and a pint, it looked terrible, sadly it was half empty when we scored our third, for some, City are just the sideshow whilst having a booze and chinwag. Suppose this is the reason comments on the post match thread makes you wonder what game posters were watching !

 

[Damocles]

You don't have to penalise people for not attending. If the system is changed so you have to buy your seat on a match-by-match basis then, as long as you have first call on that particular seat, the problem will be solved. If you can't go, you don't buy it and the club knows it's available.

Financial considerations though. Many prefer the pay up front at the beginning model as it's a one off yearly cost they can save for.

 

[blueparrot]

Financial considerations though. Many prefer the pay up front at the beginning model as it's a one off yearly cost they can save for.

They can pay up front or monthly, either way they are committted to the payment and budget for it, and on a wet cold Suday evening think I've paid already so I'll go. By choosing match by match its easier to not bother and for a less attractive match may be harder to resell that ticket near to the game itself may lead to more empty seats than it solves.

 

[remember arthur mann]

You don't have to penalise people for not attending. If the system is changed so you have to buy your seat on a match-by-match basis then, as long as you have first call on that particular seat, the problem will be solved. If you can't go, you don't buy it and the club knows it's available.

Bird in the hand PB, bird in the hand.

 

[wythenshaweblue£££]

Why is it so hard to believe that people will leave a game that had been over for 45 minutes, and had become an experimental, and rather boring training session ? (and yes I was there to applaud them off.)

Was hard to believe because we were 3 up not 3 down. Each to the own though eh :).

 

[melons]

Sounds like the criticism from the rags and the dippers about empty seats is getting to everyone.
If that's the best they've got, let them have it. Who gives a shit.
I know I don't.
That said, when Raheem scored that brilliant last minute winner against Southampton last season, the stadium was less than half full. If getting home means so much to people that they're prepared to miss seminal moments like that in a season then that's their problem. And I bet a few season ticket holders on this thread missed it too.
Any criticism I hear about empty seats, oil money, buying the league blah blah, I just stroll off whistling the 'champione, champione' tune. Winds 'em up a treat !

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Sounds like the criticism from the rags and the dippers about empty seats is getting to everyone.
If that's the best they've got, let them have it. Who gives a shit.
I know I don't.
That said, when Raheem scored that brilliant last minute winner against Southampton last season, the stadium was less than half full. If getting home means so much to people that they're prepared to miss seminal moments like that in a season then that's their problem. And I bet a few season ticket holders on this thread missed it too.
Any criticism I hear about empty seats, oil money, buying the league blah blah, I just stroll off whistling the 'champione, champione' tune. Winds 'em up a treat !

You don’t give a shit that there are actual City fans who can’t get tickets because the club have come out and said it’s “Sold Out” only to see thousands of empty seats?

You don’t give a shit that we could have more SC holders or more tickets available for actual City fans as matchday sales but what the club actually do is sell thousands of tickets to tour companies and tickets agencies at the start of the season and those tickets are not bought from the agencies until we play a top game when a lot of those tickets are taken up by fans of the away team when actual blues are missing out?

The whole things a fucking disgrace if you ask me and we should all give a shit about it!

 

[Cityfan]

Sounds like the criticism from the rags and the dippers about empty seats is getting to everyone.
If that's the best they've got, let them have it. Who gives a shit.
I know I don't.
That said, when Raheem scored that brilliant last minute winner against Southampton last season, the stadium was less than half full. If getting home means so much to people that they're prepared to miss seminal moments like that in a season then that's their problem. And I bet a few season ticket holders on this thread missed it too.
Any criticism I hear about empty seats, oil money, buying the league blah blah, I just stroll off whistling the 'champione, champione' tune. Winds 'em up a treat !

I think a fuller stadium generally creates a better atmosphere and I don't particularly enjoy seeing rows of empty seats, that said I completely agree that a few doesn't bother me and the criticism from other fans I really couldn't care less about. Most of them probably don't go to games themselves.
I plead guilty to not being there to see Sterlings goal against Southampton, I live to far away to get to many mid week games with work commitments . That said my daughter used my ticket and was there at the end.

 

[paulchapo]

What people have to realise about leaving the ground is that is only half the story. Many people have trains or buses to catch further along the journey. If you miss a connection you often have to wait at least another hour and that is if you haven't missed the last one so getting stranded.

Even in the old Maine Road days the transport was better when I was a kid. A quick run or walk to the Princess road bus depot and I could get on a bus straight to Wythenshawe. There were buses going all over Manchester so even on night games I could get home. Why can't they do that now? They have buses there but they only go to Piccadilly and you have to wait around for a connection from there. They could run football special buses from interchanges stopping off at a few points along the way.

TFGM seem to think the tram is the answer to everything and as such have started cutting bus services to areas it covers. We all know it isn't.

No easy answer but while the present transport fiasco exists so will the early leavers

 

[Deleted member 77198]

You don't have to penalise people for not attending. If the system is changed so you have to buy your seat on a match-by-match basis then, as long as you have first call on that particular seat, the problem will be solved. If you can't go, you don't buy it and the club knows it's available.

People buy SCs for the convenience of not having to buy tickets on a match-by-math basis.

It’s not SC holders who need to be made accountable for all he empty seats because I reckon the club are at fault for most of them.

There’s no way that everyone in Block 210 said to each other at the Newcastle game “right, lets all fuck the Fulham game off!” I’m convinced most of these empty seats are the club giving tickets to agencies and the agencies not selling them... CONVINCED!

The club need to made to stop doing this (how I don’t know), they need to be shamed for it in public really, because what they’re doing is a disgrace!

 

[blueparrot]

actually do is sell thousands of tickets to tour companies at the start of the season and those tickets are not bought from the agencies until we play a top game when a lot of those tickets are taken up by fabs of the away team when actual blues are missing out?

Do we though I often see this, I'm sure there are some but thousands ? As far as I knew we have about 46000 s/c , 3000 away allocations which leaves about 5000 I would say a majority of these go on on sale to matchday members in July and are snapped up pretty quick leaving lots of singles dotted about which for most games are still available now.
So no doubt some seats are given to companies probably in the main level 2 padded seats but my guess would be hundreds certainly not thousands. Just checked and about 5 games are showing as sold out.

 

[jrb]

You’ll not be going as usual?

Yes, I will be going as usual. ;-)

Stood at the front of 115 with 1894.