Thats why Elon Musk is trying to get us to Mars, while we ridicule and laugh at him for it.
Climate Change is here and man made
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I'm assuming your remark is tongue in cheek...
And you ,sir, are a lying, arrogant, rude, shithead. I will continue to debate but not with you. Hope that's clear enough for you.
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Another thoughtful response. I applaud your willingness to debate - perhaps expected in light that I've not insulted you. Thanks very much for treating me in kind.
And thanks for pointing out that I'm a liar. Though I confess ignorance on this point. No doubt you'll fill me in on this in a later post.
Arrogant? Actually I profess to know nothing at all on the topic of climate change - I simply follow the science.
Rude? I apologize if I were perceived as being rude. Surely you're recent attitude sets an example against such behavior.
Shithead? - Well, this leaves me dumbfounded - especially as you seem to value traits counter to this remark.
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Most of the above is over-the-top obvious cynicism - well-deserved from your posts - but here's a thought.
Why not engage in the possibility that you are wrong? Or if not wrong - why not explore the other side's viewpoints - to see where they are wrong - and then proceed in constructive dialog. Perhaps you'll convince those opposed to your viewpoint - perhaps those opposed will convince you; a healthy debate helps us all (don't you think?).
As opposed to this - you fling insults and petulantly declare that you are unwilling to engage in further discussion.
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1. You called me a liar by insisting that my saying I was not a Climate change denier was untrue
2 I will debate with any adult using adult arguments.
3 Wrong about what? I have not entered any statement about my own beliefs.
4 Strange isn't it that you alone have reacted to my posts in this way?
5. You have not bothered to read any of the refs I posted, why not? Those refs are themselves challenging received wisdom. Why not give the founder of Greenpeace a listen. Too difficult for you? Oh, of course his views are "fact free".
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>> 1. You called me a liar by insisting that my saying I was not a Climate change denier was untrue
Huh? Where did I call you a liar?
>> 3 Wrong about what? I have not entered any statement about my own beliefs.
That's a remarkable statement. How is it we've come to this point seeing that you've "not entered any statement about my own beliefs."
>> 4 Strange isn't it that you alone have reacted to my posts in this way?
Not much to and fro on this thread besides you, me and a very few others.
>> 5 ...
Look... I get that it's hard to parse truth from falsehood - and you, a right-leaning individual are especially challenged this way... assuming that you even care about the truth.
You distrust mainstream media - so anything ABC/NBC/CNC/PBS broadcasts say - you're against it.
I can only say - you are deeply 100% absolutely wrong when you go against respected journalism.
And as you're addicted to Fox, listen to Chris Wallace.
The above sentence will sail over your head as a pompous left-wing remark. Obviously Fox/Breitbart are correct in your opinion.
Which is why America is fucked. The right - such as you - willingly disregard fact/science/reality - and come up with all sorts of idiotic beliefs - lizard people, space lasers, election stolen, vaccines cause autism or are a plot to nano-particle track citizens, or a Hillary Clinton pedophile ring resident in a pizza joint, or... what-the-fuck ever.
The Right in the USA cares not at all about Democracy (rule of the majority) - it wants rule of themselves regardless of popular opinion (fascism).
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No but chopping down huge swathes of the Amazon to produce produce to feed animals for slaughter for human consumption is.
Yes, I meant that it is not the eating that is at fault but the method of rearing. Mixed farming, animal and crops, is actually beneficial to the environment. Soil is preserved in good order and absorbs more CO2.
Experiments are now under way into both grass and cattle breeds that produce less methane. That should be the focus.
In any case the first target has to be fossil fuel burning. Agriculture accounts at the very most for 30% of emissions. Beef is one third of that, next lamb and third rice.
Target the rearing of cattle not the consumption, nor meat generally.
(Side light: cows don't fart methane, they are ruminants)
I apologise if I have misrepresented you and not sure if this is actually a response to another poster who has claimed you are a climate denier which I certainly have not in fact have stated the opposite.
Again if its a response to another poster no dramas but my post that you have replied to its seems was directed at BMATP.
Not if the modelling is way off the mark.
Just do your bit Blue as I alluded to keep iphone purchases to a minimum , in fact don't have one , stop driving if you can and being a passenger in one , reduce your co2 footprint to a minimum.
Cease wearing clothes that are petro - chemical dependant , that will do for starters and before I forget don't take any holidays that involve getting on a plane.
Struth BMATP a bit of conspiracy theory and wacko land type dogma to classify nearly half of the voting population of America at the last election (LOL).
I gather you won't be burning up much C02 to visit America in your lifetime as you might by accident come across some of these " fascists ".
he told you he was left leaning and yet its clear you don't believe him which is why you label him as A Fox addicted right leaning fascist.
he may have got under your skin a bit but these are the sort of comments that demean these threads and means Ric and others might have to pull the pin on this thread.
BTW Why do you think left leaning journalism is always respected and by whom and right leaning journalism in the main is "fascist".
I am neither but some of the rubbish that comes from the ABC a massive to the left leaning organisation that never even invite a conservative on any of their discussion panels unless its to get the audience to abuse them here in Australia , like the Pell Case , Bruce Pascoe , Juanita Nielson just in the last few months and I could go is one of the reasons why people are leaving them in droves even to the point where their news coverage is being deserted.
their political bias knows no bounds these days they used to provide balanced coverage but have been hijacked by the Greens of the cafe latte City set the most anti conservation bunch I know.
they are never happy unless the world is unhappy and ready for destruction (LOL).
Dire zeit geists a bit like some I stress some not all of your spiel but never prepared to actually do anything constructive other than tell others why they are wrong (LOL).
Before you make another mistake and jump to the wrong conclusion the only time I am in the company of Fox is when I want to catch up on the sport I have missed on the day for at least to date they don't bell whistle about climate change and the zeitgeist and extinction mob from the far left that keep blocking traffic and damaging buildings.
Samantha Fox well in me earlier days that was another story (LOL).
Many apologies. Posted to the wrong place. You are right, was meaning it for BMATP.
Fwiw, I have enjoyed your posts which seem well balanced.
Sorry again.
EDIT PS. Thanks for standing up for me before.
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No dramas as I said you are far more capable than I am of presenting the case you have made.
He has some strange views on certain subjects and if it was me I would have apologised because he has accused you of telling mistruths when they are unfounded putting you in the liars box so to speak.
How could arrive at that is beyond me but so be it.
I am annoyed. I should have spotted it earlier but BMATP is thick without any self awareness at all.
Looking back at his posts, there is not a single original thought or argument, just a parrot like repeating of stuff which you could see on a GCSE course. Substitute climate change for brexit and the sloganizing is just the same:"Brexiteers are all stupid, racist little Englanders." He cannot distinguish between the idea in a quotation and the views of the poster. He cannot follow a simple argument. He did not bother to check out a single one of the people I directed him to. No doubt the arguments therein are beyond him. So he resorts to slogans and hackneyed mantras. I dont think he knew just how appalling he was being, or that an apology was due. No, just repeat the crap.
I gave him the benefit of the doubt at first and that led me to a dark labyrinth. Silly me.
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Thats amazing mate, I thought the UK population would go down post Brexit.
Anyway, thats a lot of extra cars on the roads and a lot more kids in schools
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Rolls-Royce gets funding to develop mini nuclear reactors
Private investors and the UK government will help fund the firm's development of small nuclear reactors.
www.bbc.co.uk
Trevor Morley's Tache
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What could possibly go wrong....Rolls-Royce gets funding to develop mini nuclear reactors
Private investors and the UK government will help fund the firm's development of small nuclear reactors.
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I'm a little conflicted but tbf nuclear submarines use these similar types of power plants and they seem safe...?
We need to find alternatives to fossil fuels whilst we improve renewables so I can see the logic in this, so it'll be interesting to see if they pass the regulatory stage.