Corners

Re: Corners...

I'd try something completely revolutionary, like not having anyone in the box at all. I'm convinced it can't be any worse than whatever it is we're supposed to be doing at the moment.
 
Re: Corners...

After 20 league games we probably scored same amount of goals from corners as we conceded from them. I mean the ones we took, and got countered very fast and ended up conceding and dropping points because of it Stoke at home most clear example.

Its simply awful and we keep doing the same thing over ad over yet still surprised its wasting possible goalscoring opportunities. Madness.

With players like Yaya, Kompany, Mangala, Demichelis, Dzeko, and with technical ability of Silva/Nasri/Jovetic the way we just cant cross and find a big player from corners out of millions of corners is a joke.

These days more worried that we got countered and punished if we have to take a corner. It also takes about 30 seconds at least from the game time per corner. That could be used in open play for us.
 
It's got so bad, I think we should give up for a while and just play short corners and play the ball back out to the edge of their box. At least if we retain possession, we don't risk getting stuffed on the counter yet again. And since we are scoring all our goals from open play anyway, why not get it back into open play, rather than just lumping the ball to the opposition?
 
Chippy_boy said:
It's got so bad, I think we should give up for a while and just play short corners and play the ball back out to the edge of their box. At least if we retain possession, we don't risk getting stuffed on the counter yet again. And since we are scoring all our goals from open play anyway, why not get it back into open play, rather than just lumping the ball to the opposition?
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For me, this is the solution. If we had the taker and two of our players near the corner flag, they would have to take more players out of the box, creating more space. If we play it short and use our better players, I'm sure we can create a better threat than the corner into the box would do. Not hard though as they are dire.
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
Chippy_boy said:
It's got so bad, I think we should give up for a while and just play short corners and play the ball back out to the edge of their box. At least if we retain possession, we don't risk getting stuffed on the counter yet again. And since we are scoring all our goals from open play anyway, why not get it back into open play, rather than just lumping the ball to the opposition?
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For me, this is the solution. If we had the taker and two of our players near the corner flag, they would have to take more players out of the box, creating more space. If we play it short and use our better players, I'm sure we can create a better threat than the corner into the box would do. Not hard though as they are dire.
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This makes total sense.
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
Chippy_boy said:
It's got so bad, I think we should give up for a while and just play short corners and play the ball back out to the edge of their box. At least if we retain possession, we don't risk getting stuffed on the counter yet again. And since we are scoring all our goals from open play anyway, why not get it back into open play, rather than just lumping the ball to the opposition?
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For me, this is the solution. If we had the taker and two of our players near the corner flag, they would have to take more players out of the box, creating more space. If we play it short and use our better players, I'm sure we can create a better threat than the corner into the box would do. Not hard though as they are dire.
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I`ve been saying this for the last 12 months, it`s not rocket science. Adam Johnson used to use the ball well from a short corner.
You can also argue that you should always has 2 players over a deadball freekick. A left and a right footer keeps the defence guessing at what angle the ball comes in at. And it also gives the short ball option.
These are tactics even pub teams are aware of.
 
Thebigbluehouse said:
Is there any stats on how many we've scored from opponents corners? Its got to be better than the number of goals scored from our own corners.
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That made me laugh and is probably true.
 
cookster said:
Thebigbluehouse said:
Is there any stats on how many we've scored from opponents corners? Its got to be better than the number of goals scored from our own corners.
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That made me laugh and is probably true.
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Me too. You can but marvel at how shit ours are though, and it's been that way for years. Floaty out-swingers toward the near post that get headed clear EVERY time. I watched the rags today and gloriously shit though they were, every cross or corner they put in was pure evil. Whipped, accurate, and flat, with the defending team under pressure to scrabble it clear every time. I know we don't play that way, but why we eschew it altogether is beyond me. We might as well just say 'nah ref, don't want it, thanks' and let the opposition take a goal kick
 
I actually do not know where we go from here with corners at present unless we just play the short every time and then get a ball whipped in although it does become very predictable then.

Silva and Nasri corners are poor – personally think Milner tends to put the best corner’s in but again would not say he is consistent with his delivery!
 
Goldenboy87 said:
I actually do not know where we go from here with corners at present unless we just play the short every time and then get a ball whipped in although it does become very predictable then.

Silva and Nasri corners are poor – personally think Milner tends to put the best corner’s in but again would not say he is consistent with his delivery!
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I think we go back to basics. If it blowing a gale towards their keepers net (as it has been doing for half of our 3 recent games: West Brom, Sunderland and Everton) then hit the in swinger. If either Milner or Kolarov are on the pitch then they take them.

Knock the out swinger on the head - at least until we get to a point where we are out jumping the opposition in their penalty box. I would rather we take a short corner than the floated out swingers.
 
i maintain that if we have been this bad at scoring from corners for 21 games, then why dont we just go short, work it back and draw out the defence, retain possession and go from there. Open play is where we score the majority of the time so just recreate an open play situation, even if it means going all the way back 40 yards.
 
got this from <a class="postlink" href="http://www.footstats.co.uk/index.cfm?task=teams&thisdate=12/01/2015&CFGRIDKEY=Man%20City" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.footstats.co.uk/index.cfm?ta ... Man%20City</a> we have had 161 corners about 8 per game even one goal per game we'd be 20 up


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update StatCity ‏@StatCity 4h4 hours ago

123 - #MCFC have taken 123 corners in the Premier League since they last scored from one. Evasive.
 
They are so bad we are more likely to concede from a breakaway than score off them. How can PL players with the talent ours have not manage to be able to take a good corner. Perhaps we should practice them in training.
 
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.scienceofsocceronline.com/2010/12/corner-kicks-by-numbers.htmls" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.scienceofsocceronline.com/20 ... bers.htmls</a>

it's not just us
 
Interestingly there was an article in January 2014 WIRED magazine about the use of data analysis in football and our manager of strategic performance Simon Wilson. At one time we had gone 22 games without scoring from a corner, so they analysed 400 goals from corners and found that about 75% were scored from in-swinging corners. We changed to in-swingers and scored 9 goals from corners in 12 matches.

http://www.wired.co.uk/magazine/archive/2014/01/features/the-winning-formula
 
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