COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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Cheers GDB. So the first cases were recorded in late January. Bearing in mind that hardly anyone was tested it was clearly knocking around for some time prior to that. Late December/early January I would say but, like everyone else on here, I don't know for certain.
The timeline in there suggests differently.
COVID-19 cases in the United Kingdom (
)
Deaths Confirmed cases
Date
Cases (% rise)
Deaths (% rise)

2020-01-31




2(n.a.)
2020-02-01




2
2020-02-02




2
2020-02-03




2
2020-02-04




2
2020-02-05




2
2020-02-06




3(50%)
2020-02-07




3
2020-02-08




3
2020-02-09




4(33%)
2020-02-10




8(100%)
2020-02-11




8
2020-02-12




8
2020-02-13




9(13%)
2020-02-14




9
2020-02-15




9
2020-02-16




9
2020-02-17




9
2020-02-18




9
2020-02-19




9
2020-02-20




9
2020-02-21




9
2020-02-22




9
2020-02-23




9
2020-02-24




13(44%)
2020-02-25




13
2020-02-26




13
2020-02-27




13
2020-02-28




19(46%)
2020-02-29




23(21%)
2020-03-01




35(52%)
2020-03-02




40(14%)
2020-03-03




51(28%)
2020-03-04



85(67%)
2020-03-05



114(34%) 1(n.a.)
2020-03-06


160(40%) 2(100%)
2020-03-07


206(29%) 2
2020-03-08


271(32%) 3(50%)
2020-03-09


321(18%) 5(67%)
2020-03-10


373(16%) 6(20%)
2020-03-11


456(22%) 8(33%)
2020-03-12


590(29%) 8
2020-03-13


797(35%) 10(25%)
2020-03-14


1,061(33%) 21(110%)
2020-03-15


1,391(31%) 35(67%)
2020-03-16


1,543(11%) 55(57%)
2020-03-17


1,950(26%) 71(29%)
2020-03-18


2,626(35%) 103(45%)
2020-03-19


3,269(24%) 144(40%)
2020-03-20


3,983(22%) 177(23%)
2020-03-21


5,018(27%) 233(32%)
2020-03-22


5,683(13%) 281(21%)
2020-03-23



6,650(17%) 335(19%)
2020-03-24



8,077(21%) 422(26%https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/202...n_the_United_Kingdom#cite_note-delay_25Mar-38)
2020-03-25



9,529(18%) 578(37%)
2020-03-26



11,658(22%) 759(31%)
2020-03-27



14,543(25%) 1,019(34%)
2020-03-28



17,089(18%) 1,228(21%)
2020-03-29



19,522(14%) 1,408(15%)
2020-03-30



22,141(13%) 1,789(27%)
2020-03-31



25,150(14%) 2,352(31%)
2020-04-01



29,474(17%) 2,921(24%)
2020-04-02



33,718(14%) 3,605(23%)
2020-04-03



38,168(13%) 4,313(20%)
2020-04-04



41,892(9.8%) 4,932(14%)
2020-04-05



47,806(14%) 5,373(8.9%)
2020-04-06



51,608(8.0%) 6,159(15%)
2020-04-07



55,242(7.0%) 7,097(15%)
2020-04-08



60,733(9.9%) 7,978(12%)
2020-04-09



65,077(7.2%) 8,958(12%)
2020-04-10



70,272(8.0%) 9,875(10%)
2020-04-11



78,991(12%[ii]) 10,612(7.5%)
2020-04-12
 
Cheers GDB. So the first cases were recorded in late January. Bearing in mind that hardly anyone was tested it was clearly knocking around for some time prior to that. Late December/early January I would say but, like everyone else on here, I don't know for certain.
You’ve completely misread or misunderstood that link of you believe that.
 
what ?

you are criticising people for going for a walk , run or bike ride whilst you continue to run your non essential business. Driving around visiting home to home to do your business. Unless you are delivering medicines or food I don’t think you are in any position to have a go at others.

you literally are criticising people for “justifying what they do “ to exercise whilst going on about justifying your position.

if you are saying well I can run my business as it’s in the govt guidelines fine, those going exercising are doing so too. The vast majority of those will be out for under an hour , not all day, nor will they be at someone else’s house.

If you think full lockdown is important practice what you preach

So me driving from my house, and not coming into contact with ANYBODY is similar to walking/running/cycling near other people? (BTW some of my work is essential, i'm not a gardener in case that is what you are thinking)
The parks are stuffed with people.
If you can do these activities without coming across other people then fine. But the reality is you cannot in most places. I was running round Dovestone three times a week before the lockdown. Because i couldn't do it safely i have stopped.

As i mentioned, i tried to keep my business going in a safe way. This has been made impossible, due to people visiting other people. So the point being, if you cannot do an activity safely, then don't do it.
I'm not getting any help with money. I would be happy if somebody was paying 80% of my wages. Even claiming some form of benefits would take months to sort out. Trying to compare somebody trying earn a living to somebody taking non essential unsafe exercise is crackers.
Outdoor exercise is not essential. You may prefer it, but there are other ways.
Since i cannot continue to do it safely, i have said im closing down. So what's your beef?
 
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First, I would be staggered if there was a working vaccine ready for mass use before this time next year.

RNAs are chains of subunits. RNA viruses are such that they inveigle their way into body cells, and get themselves replicated by the cell's own machinery.
A lot of vaccines are similar to the main virus, but with a few changes such that the RNA doesn't do anything bad (or at least gives a very minor dose, in some cases) when it's replicated.
What the vaccine still has to do is provoke the immune response of the body to a pathogen, creating the antibodies that fight it off (one mechanism is that the antibody binds around a part of the virus, and prevent it doing anything).

For RNA vaccines, making it then is probably not that difficult, as machines will make it automatically. However, you're still looking at months before there's mass dosage. I can't see mass immunisation being an automatic plan, unless Covid-19 keeps coming back.

There are other immunisation principles which could be followed - anything that provokes the immune response would work, and that doesn't necessarily have to be an RNA vaccine (I expect it would be a main aim though).
I’m not entirely sure a strand of RNA is capable of inveigling anything!
 
I don't know where you lot all live but it's like a ghost town round here.

Went to get shopping yesterday, drove through town and there was barely a soul about.

Fantasy land where their jackanory is welcomed and social media.

Thats where they live.
 
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