David Silva...

[Petetheblu]

What could David Silva do that Iniesta or Ribéry can't do?

Generally I don't have a problem with supporters of other clubs contributing to this Forum. For those that are not aware you are a Real Sociedad supporter.
However as others have said you do have a Wum tendency, and on this occasion this is a very clear example.
Why don't you spend your time on your own club forum, rather than stirring the pot here.

Why do you think I am winding people up? Silva is a key player to Manchester City - a very good footballer as I have stated already. But is his skill-set so unique that he is "irreplaceable"? I honestly don't think so, and that's why I think he can be replaced - not by some average footballer, but two of the most skilled footballers in the world. If you think I am wrong or disagree, feel free to disagree, mate. I'm not trying to be inflammatory.

I think what people miss who don't get to see him inthe flesh is his constant desire to get the team moving, its often lost on tv the effort he puts in. We may be a be able to replace him, but nothing is guaranteed and I just couldn't see any other player with his ability level ready to put a hard shift in for City.

He came here humble and he will one day leave here humble and that's David Silva, a world star playing for City, not barca or bayern and putting in a shift day in day out.......how many true world star name would fancy that on a rainy monday night? Thats the difference mate.

 

[C Velz]

I don't think it's something that requires seeing him in the flesh, even though I have seen him play quite a few times for Valencia. He is not really a unique footballer, but his playing style is one that would be welcomed at any club.

To me, there are different types of attacking midfielders - the "assist poacher" like Özil, the "goal-getter" like Mkhitaryan, and the "build-up specialist" like Silva. He's the perfect type of player to link up the play from the middle to front, someone who provides a direct burst of skill to counter Touré's brilliant deep-passing skills - something that is weirdly overlooked by many fans of other clubs.

Would I say that Silva is a complete attacking midfielder? Not really; he, like Iniesta and Özil amongst others are quite poor with their shooting abilities. From what I have seen of Silva, he isn't the breed of player to consistently support a defence like a left midfielder would in a 4-4-2 - although Pellegrini's system is different, the midfield is not balanced, something I see as a flaw.

But he provides something that other types of attacking midfielders don't. Özil for instance doesn't provide the same abilities deeper in the pitch that Silva does, but he has such incredible vision in the final third that compensates for his deficiencies. When played with "runners" - Cristiano, Walcott, Müller - he's a joy to watch although he is a peripheral type.

Silva isn't. Just like Iniesta, who would be my ideal comparison player. Silky touch on the ball, can wriggle out of danger, is brilliant linking-up play, but just doesn't have the finishing touch.

Theoretically - where I was coming from - Silva is not an irreplaceable player. There are footballers like him, some more refined than others, who can take charge of the left "wing" and provide a key creative outlet, like Silva. Realistically - which is where the others come from - Manchester City won't be able to sign these players. So he is irreplaceable in that case, I guess.

 

[Puppet Master Silva]

I don't think it's something that requires seeing him in the flesh, even though I have seen him play quite a few times for Valencia. He is not really a unique footballer, but his playing style is one that would be welcomed at any club.

To me, there are different types of attacking midfielders - the "assist poacher" like Özil, the "goal-getter" like Mkhitaryan, and the "build-up specialist" like Silva. He's the perfect type of player to link up the play from the middle to front, someone who provides a direct burst of skill to counter Touré's brilliant deep-passing skills - something that is weirdly overlooked by many fans of other clubs.

Would I say that Silva is a complete attacking midfielder? Not really; he, like Iniesta and Özil amongst others are quite poor with their shooting abilities. From what I have seen of Silva, he isn't the breed of player to consistently support a defence like a left midfielder would in a 4-4-2 - although Pellegrini's system is different, the midfield is not balanced, something I see as a flaw.

But he provides something that other types of attacking midfielders don't. Özil for instance doesn't provide the same abilities deeper in the pitch that Silva does, but he has such incredible vision in the final third that compensates for his deficiencies. When played with "runners" - Cristiano, Walcott, Müller - he's a joy to watch although he is a peripheral type.

Silva isn't. Just like Iniesta, who would be my ideal comparison player. Silky touch on the ball, can wriggle out of danger, is brilliant linking-up play, but just doesn't have the finishing touch.

Theoretically - where I was coming from - Silva is not an irreplaceable player. There are footballers like him, some more refined than others, who can take charge of the left "wing" and provide a key creative outlet, like Silva. Realistically - which is where the others come from - Manchester City won't be able to sign these players. So he is irreplaceable in that case, I guess.

Did you try and claim that Ribery could replace Silva earlier in this thread? Let's throw Ibrahimovic in to replace Yaya Toure too. If Silva added shooting to his game then perhaps the more simple minded type of football fan like yourself would notice him a bit more. There are probably 2 players in world football who can do the job that Silva does, as well as he does it. I suggest you watch (or rewatch) our game away at Bayern earlier in the season to see just how good he is at what he does. This doesn't mean that David Silva is the best player in the world (although he's up around the top 10) but what it does mean is that this type of player has a particular niche. Very, very few players will come over to England, similar to David Silva and play as well as he has. So no, he won't be easy to replace.

 

[C Velz]

You didn't read my post, at all. What a cringey response.

 

[foetus]

 

[Puppet Master Silva]

What could David Silva do that Iniesta or Ribéry can't do?

Inside the mind of a football remedial.

 

[C Velz]

"build-up specialist" like Silva. He's the perfect type of player to link up the play from the middle to front, someone who provides a direct burst of skill

Would I say that Silva is a complete attacking midfielder? Not really; he, like Iniesta and Özil amongst others are quite poor with their shooting abilities. From what I have seen of Silva, he isn't the breed of player to consistently support a defence like a left midfielder would in a 4-4-2 - although Pellegrini's system is different, the midfield is not balanced, something I see as a flaw.

But he provides something that other types of attacking midfielders don't. Silva isn't. Just like Iniesta, who would be my ideal comparison player. Silky touch on the ball, can wriggle out of danger, is brilliant linking-up play, but just doesn't have the finishing touch.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMduiP0JFL8[/youtube]

Watch this and try to tell me how I am wrong. I dare you. Are you

And yes, Ribéry can do anything Silva can do, and still score more goals. Is it an insult to not be better than arguably the second best footballer in the world?

 

[Puppet Master Silva]

"build-up specialist" like Silva. He's the perfect type of player to link up the play from the middle to front, someone who provides a direct burst of skill

Would I say that Silva is a complete attacking midfielder? Not really; he, like Iniesta and Özil amongst others are quite poor with their shooting abilities. From what I have seen of Silva, he isn't the breed of player to consistently support a defence like a left midfielder would in a 4-4-2 - although Pellegrini's system is different, the midfield is not balanced, something I see as a flaw.

But he provides something that other types of attacking midfielders don't. Silva isn't. Just like Iniesta, who would be my ideal comparison player. Silky touch on the ball, can wriggle out of danger, is brilliant linking-up play, but just doesn't have the finishing touch.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMduiP0JFL8[/youtube]

Watch this and try to tell me how I am wrong. I dare you. Are you

And yes, Ribéry can do anything Silva can do, and still score more goals. Is it an insult to not be better than arguably the second best footballer in the world?

You just don't get it do you? Go show me an assist from Ribery as good as the one above by David Silva.

 

[C Velz]

So you can't tell me I am wrong. Instead you argue something completely irrelevant to the debate at hand. Well done, mate. Everything I have said about David Silva is the truth.

"Simple-minded football fan like you" - brilliant stuff. Try insulting someone who won't expose your idiocy on an Internet forum.

 

[Puppet Master Silva]

What could David Silva do that Iniesta or Ribéry can't do?

*Shows David Silva assist and asks to be shown a better Ribery assist.* Gets this response...

So you can't tell me I am wrong. Instead you argue something completely irrelevant to the debate at hand. Well done, mate. Everything I have said about David Silva is the truth.

"Simple-minded football fan like you" - brilliant stuff. Try insulting someone who won't expose your idiocy on an Internet forum.

Oh gosh, please don't expose my idiocy like that again!

 

[C Velz]

I feel nothing but pity for you if you genuinely think that my post was a response to your question about quality of assists.

Look at Ribéry's assist to Mandzukic in the 2012 Supercup. Even better if you add in the context of both passes.

Out of interest, has Silva ever made another successful pass like that? I don't recall him making one like that since the derby match. It might be due to my "simple mind", though.

 

[Puppet Master Silva]

I feel nothing but pity for you if you genuinely think that my post was a response to your question about quality of assists.

Look at Ribéry's assist to Mandzukic in the 2012 Supercup. Even better if you add in the context of both passes.

Out of interest, has Silva ever made another successful pass like that? I don't recall him making one like that since the derby match. It might be due to my "simple mind", though.

Yeah, only a complex, genius like mind would come out with this cracker during the FA cup match against Chelsea on Saturday. A reminder to everyone this was the match that Chelsea mustered not one clear chance combined with 0 shots on target. C Velz view of the situation though?

Such un-intelligent and un-coordinated pressing on display from City at times.

I bow down to your clear superior knowledge.

 

[C Velz]

Javi García pushes up and is ball-watching, Clichy is too far up the pitch, Yaya Touré is the only person in the centre of the pitch for Manchester City. David Silva is caught out by Ivanovic and has to resort to a cynical chop of the ankle. How is this not un-intelligent and un-coordinated pressing?

And while you're trawling through my posts to experience my "complex, genius mind" first-hand, I recommend looking at my post to see why Chelsea did not manage a single attempt on target. Manchester City's pressing and Chelsea's ineffectiveness in attack are not directly related to each other.

 

[pudge]

I feel nothing but pity for you if you genuinely think that my post was a response to your question about quality of assists.

Look at Ribéry's assist to Mandzukic in the 2012 Supercup. Even better if you add in the context of both passes.

Out of interest, has Silva ever made another successful pass like that? I don't recall him making one like that since the derby match. It might be due to my "simple mind", though.

The pass at 1:51 springs to mind as the immediate debate as to which was better was brought about, it was a mere month after the derby so don't rule your "simple mind" out of the equation.

Under pressure, curling it around a defender with the perfect touch and weight on a 35 yard pass along the ground. He's some pup is our Dave.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yILmOdcO62c[/youtube]

 

[Didsbury Dave]

I feel nothing but pity for you if you genuinely think that my post was a response to your question about quality of assists.

Look at Ribéry's assist to Mandzukic in the 2012 Supercup. Even better if you add in the context of both passes.

Out of interest, has Silva ever made another successful pass like that? I don't recall him making one like that since the derby match. It might be due to my "simple mind", though.

Pellegrini hit the nail on the head about David silva. "He is the best player of the final ball I have ever seen".

A bold statement from a manager has seen some good players and been around for a long long time.

Silva ran the game on Saturday, as he regularly does for us. Spurs two weeks ago was the last time he did it. I wouldn't swap him for any creative midfielder in the world, he's that good.

 

[C Velz]

Was the pass a successful one? The video suspiciously cuts away as it looks like the defender would cut the ball out, for some reason.

I don't think David Silva is the best at playing a final ball (that I have seen), but he is certainly one of the best in world football at it. If you are curious, I think Messi is the best at it. There are very few footballers like Silva though, nowadays. I've always rated him highly.

 

[Bpughh]

Javi García pushes up and is ball-watching, Clichy is too far up the pitch, Yaya Touré is the only person in the centre of the pitch for Manchester City. David Silva is caught out by Ivanovic and has to resort to a cynical chop of the ankle. How is this not un-intelligent and un-coordinated pressing?

And while you're trawling through my posts to experience my "complex, genius mind" first-hand, I recommend looking at my post to see why Chelsea did not manage a single attempt on target. Manchester City's pressing and Chelsea's ineffectiveness in attack are not directly related to each other.

you're a fucking clown. ramires did make a very intelligent run to take advantage clichy's position, but by no means was he too high up the pitch. javi garcia's "ball watching" pause was actually more likely to have been him cutting off the immediate through ball to ramires, while also giving clichy an extra moment to recovery. A sacrifice that may have saved a quick counter from happening right then and there. Silva then has the best vision of the play at hand, if he thought we were still at risk and made that foul, it was a very intelligent play. He stopped play and gave us the chance to regroup. When you press like we do, openings will happen, but if anything this clip proves our team is well trained to handle these kind of difficult situations.

 

[pudge]

Was the pass a successful one? The video suspiciously cuts away as it looks like the defender would cut the ball out, for some reason.

I don't think David Silva is the best at playing a final ball (that I have seen), but he is certainly one of the best in world football at it. If you are curious, I think Messi is the best at it. There are very few footballers like Silva though, nowadays. I've always rated him highly.

T'was successful, yes.

47 min: Aguero ultimately couldn't do anything with it, but Silva just found him with an absolutely stunning volleyed pass, a near replica of the one that set up Dzeko at Old Trafford. This one was arguably harder though, as it had to be judged so it could spin behind Jose Enrique. What a brilliant footballer.

 

[C Velz]

Silva made a cynical foul in order to allow Manchester City to "regroup". Re-group from being shifted out of position, that is. I've seen Manchester City press well, it's not like it is a rarity. But this is an example of un-coordinated pressing that was exemplified by the kick of Ivanovic's ankle.

Fouls are the last thing a successful pressing team should be making. Fouling shows that you've done something wrong, especially when it is an unneeded one like Silva has done. Every team makes these sort of mistakes; some of them are punished with goals, others aren't. There is no need to be so defensive and use expletives.<br /><br />-- Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:59 am --<br /><br />

T'was successful, yes.

47 min: Aguero ultimately couldn't do anything with it, but Silva just found him with an absolutely stunning volleyed pass, a near replica of the one that set up Dzeko at Old Trafford. This one was arguably harder though, as it had to be judged so it could spin behind Jose Enrique. What a brilliant footballer.

Thanks for the info, mate.

 

[Puppet Master Silva]

Was the pass a successful one? The video suspiciously cuts away as it looks like the defender would cut the ball out, for some reason.

I don't think David Silva is the best at playing a final ball (that I have seen), but he is certainly one of the best in world football at it. If you are curious, I think Messi is the best at it. There are very few footballers like Silva though, nowadays. I've always rated him highly.

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He is not really a unique footballer