David Silva...

[salford blue 62]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

jimharri 78-85 were my lost years beer wise i mean

 

[Le Havre Oswald]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

Surprised no one has mentioned christian negouai

 

[NICKS BACK]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

Read the thread, Bell and Lee were my favourite players growing up, as great as Bell was, he would only get in ahead of Negredo in this side. And that's probably my heart ruling my head.

However, Aguero Yaya Silva Nasri and Bell, in my head I can see them play lol they are immense together

 

[rick773]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

When making comparisons with the greatest City player of all time bar none, you need to take into account the conditions the players were confronted with week in week out, Silva is a genius on the surfaces of the modern game and to be fair its hard to find a better player in his position today but if Colin Bell had played on the same surfaces, instead of the quagmires and swamps he played on virtually every week, we would not be having this conversation. Like for like with the same conditions there is only one answer.. Colin Bell (Nijinsky) The King, The Leader of Manchester City & The Greatest..!!

Wouldn't the level of opponent also come in then? I'm not saying one is better than the other but at the very least the overall quality of player increase would even out the differences in playing surface.

I wouldn't swap silva for anyone in the world though. Not sure I can say that about anyone else on the team.

 

[oakiecokie]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

When making comparisons with the greatest City player of all time bar none, you need to take into account the conditions the players were confronted with week in week out, Silva is a genius on the surfaces of the modern game and to be fair its hard to find a better player in his position today but if Colin Bell had played on the same surfaces, instead of the quagmires and swamps he played on virtually every week, we would not be having this conversation. Like for like with the same conditions there is only one answer.. Colin Bell (Nijinsky) The King, The Leader of Manchester City & The Greatest..!!

Wouldn't the level of opponent also come in then? I'm not saying one is better than the other but at the very least the overall quality of player increase would even out the differences in playing surface.

I wouldn't swap silva for anyone in the world though. Not sure I can say that about anyone else on the team.

What !! Not even Sergio ???

 

[wythenshaweblue£££]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

Technically best I've ever seen for city so privalegged he's wearing the blue of city

 

[bluegirl74]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

i wasn't aound for colin bell so only seen footage but i could cry with happiness when i see silva playing for us. his vision and execution of passes is exceptional and i love him like the brother i never had (no offence to the brother i actually have).
i was once told to spend five minutes of every match just watching silva. i do and it's amazing.

 

[rick773]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

When making comparisons with the greatest City player of all time bar none, you need to take into account the conditions the players were confronted with week in week out, Silva is a genius on the surfaces of the modern game and to be fair its hard to find a better player in his position today but if Colin Bell had played on the same surfaces, instead of the quagmires and swamps he played on virtually every week, we would not be having this conversation. Like for like with the same conditions there is only one answer.. Colin Bell (Nijinsky) The King, The Leader of Manchester City & The Greatest..!!

Wouldn't the level of opponent also come in then? I'm not saying one is better than the other but at the very least the overall quality of player increase would even out the differences in playing surface.

I wouldn't swap silva for anyone in the world though. Not sure I can say that about anyone else on the team.

What !! Not even Sergio ???

Although I'd prefer to keep everyone together ,Id survive if there was a messi/Sergio swap.

 

[ClaudioDeyna]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

The King and The Magician: it's like choosing your favourite child. I love them equally.

In the here and now, I get incredibly emotional watching David play. It's a cross between Dad ('Don't you fucking tackle my boy!') and FanBoy ('Shred those kicking you up the arse, son.')

Both players: unsurpassable.

 

[ifiwasarichfan]

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Nice to see that from the original post the thread has expanded. I was fortunate enough to see Colin's best years as a boy and he was as good as they say and would have graced any side in the World.

All four of the players mentioned primarily in this thread; Silva, Yaya, Kun and Vinny are easily, easily the best four footballers the Club has had since then.

On the magician in particular he is as outstanding as the thread suggests and I agree with every word; - but the fact that he couldn't hit a cows arse with a Banjo stops him from being in the Worlds top 5 players.

 

[80s Shorts]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

I have seen numerous threads in the past talking about where the likes of Yaya and Aguero stand in terms of greatness, alongside Bell and such, all more than valid.

I would just like to state in my 30 years of watching City, I have never seen a player as good as David Silva.

I've have heard all the pros and cons, he doesn't score enough goals etc.

His performance against Barcelona the other night was the greatest, most technically perfect performance I have seen from anyone in a City shirt.

His passing, his control under pressure, his ability to take the likes of Xavi and Iniesta out of the play with a turn of his body - absolutely majestic.

At Bayern, earlier this season and twice against Madrid, he was also the stand-out player on the pitch.

Bell was before my time, but up there with the King?

Difficult to justify the word "perfect" really. He could / should have scored as on numerous occasions. If he could add that to his game he would be a top 20 player in the world. As it is nowhere near Im afraid as that vital ingredient is missing and you need it to qualify as a truly great player.

He is bloody good though.

 

[Balti]

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edgey

end of

 

[yankcitizen76]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

Definitely the best player at City since I've been here. My favorite player after Dunney left. Doesn't score like Bell did, does just about
everything else.

 

[jollylescott]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

Greatness comes in many different forms. It can present itself in the highest achievement in, for example, the arts, the sciences and sport. Usually those that possess these rare qualities are born with these skills.

In my view David Silva is a true artist at work. Like Picasso he can make something out of nothing.

There is an extraordinary vision which presents as an unerring sixth sense as to where to best position himself, in relation to those around him.

There is the magical touch which transcends any that I have seen before. As Pellegrini said, he has never seen a better player of the final ball than Merlin.

There is the ability to retain the ball in the most difficult of circumstances. As Fred Eyre said during the Norwich commentary, Silva could find space in a single bed with Dawn French and Hattie Jacques. I well recall a moment in the 6-1 at the swamp. It was the first half and he was on the edge of their box. He wriggled, swerved and struggled through about 5 of them in a space of no more than about 5 square yards, and still came out with the ball. How he did that I will never know.

There is the toughness. This is a most underestimated quality that he possesses. He is small in stature but large in heart.

In addition he is modest to a fault. When he does eventually retire he will quietly return to Gran Canaria and resume his unassuming life. He is never one to seek the limelight. I notice this even on this Forum, where I have on occasion gone back 4 or 5 pages to find any comment on Merlin, whereas other players seem to occupy our minds constantly.

In the meantime we are privileged to witness every week an artist at work.

It is well nigh impossible to compare greatness in different generations. King Colin is the King for a reason. He was the greatest of his generation.

But if Colin is the King then David Silva is entitled to sit beside the throne in a place of honour.

 

[wythenshaweblue£££]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

Greatness comes in many different forms. It can present itself in the highest achievement in, for example, the arts, the sciences and sport. Usually those that possess these rare qualities are born with these skills.

In my view David Silva is a true artist at work. Like Picasso he can make something out of nothing.

There is an extraordinary vision which presents as an unerring sixth sense as to where to best position himself, in relation to those around him.

There is the magical touch which transcends any that I have seen before. As Pellegrini said, he has never seen a better player of the final ball than Merlin.

There is the ability to retain the ball in the most difficult of circumstances. As Fred Eyre said during the Norwich commentary, Silva could find space in a single bed with Dawn French and Hattie Jacques. I well recall a moment in the 6-1 at the swamp. It was the first half and he was on the edge of their box. He wriggled, swerved and struggled through about 5 of them in a space of no more than about 5 square yards, and still came out with the ball. How he did that I will never know.

There is the toughness. This is a most underestimated quality that he possesses. He is small in stature but large in heart.

In addition he is modest to a fault. When he does eventually retire he will quietly return to Gran Canaria and resume his unassuming life. He is never one to seek the limelight. I notice this even on this Forum, where I have on occasion gone back 4 or 5 pages to find any comment on Merlin, whereas other players seem to occupy our minds constantly.

In the meantime we are privileged to witness every week an artist at work.

It is well nigh impossible to compare greatness in different generations. King Colin is the King for a reason. He was the greatest of his generation.

But if Colin is the King then David Silva is entitled to sit beside the throne in a place of honour.

Well said couldn't agree more

 

[aguero93:20]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

It's a real pub type debate this one and it'll all come down to your age or how you like the game to be played?

I'm not old enough to remember Bell but i respect those that say how good he was at that period in our history.

If you like power and brute strength then Yaya is your man

If you like pace and finishing then Sergio is your man

but

If you like technical ability, finesse and vision then Silva is your man (i fall in to this category)
I want him to have the ball all the time because i love watching him play the game, it's the only way i can put in to words how good i think he is.
He reminds me of a small Zidane at times the way his feet caresses the ball and then he does that reverse inside ball, most people know it's coming but still fail to stop it.

Class player and long may he continue to wear our shirt

I reckon Yaya has plenty of technical ability and vision, however for me Silva just appears more 'silky/sublime/effortless'- don't know how else to say it.

Not bad for £24m.

Not bad we got Silva and Yaya for pretty much the same transfer fee the Arse paid for Ozil.

 

[johnnytapia]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

two completely different types of player colin bell was more in the gerrard style but imo better.


i`ve never seen a player able to receive a ball at any speed and have it immediately under control, brilliant at passing, dribbling and making space for himself and team mates

Using Gerrard as a reference point for Bell is tantamount to treason. Gerrard is a fucking myth, built up by the press to be some kind of midfield giant - he ain't and never has been. Bell was immense, a colossus, someone who bestrode the pitch and annihilated everyone and everything before him. Watch him celebrate a goal - he doesn't - no need for him to get all "showy", arms splayed, knees sliding, kissing the camera bollocks - he did the speaking with his feet.

 

[Bluebee2]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

two completely different types of player colin bell was more in the gerrard style but imo better.


i`ve never seen a player able to receive a ball at any speed and have it immediately under control, brilliant at passing, dribbling and making space for himself and team mates

Using Gerrard as a reference point for Bell is tantamount to treason. Gerrard is a fucking myth, built up by the press to be some kind of midfield giant - he ain't and never has been. Bell was immense, a colossus, someone who bestrode the pitch and annihilated everyone and everything before him. Watch him celebrate a goal - he doesn't - no need for him to get all "showy", arms splayed, knees sliding, kissing the camera bollocks - he did the speaking with his feet.

A myth I wouldn't have minded in the team, Gerrard is and has been a great player.

 

[johnnytapia]

Re: Silva - best since Bell?

two completely different types of player colin bell was more in the gerrard style but imo better.


i`ve never seen a player able to receive a ball at any speed and have it immediately under control, brilliant at passing, dribbling and making space for himself and team mates

Using Gerrard as a reference point for Bell is tantamount to treason. Gerrard is a fucking myth, built up by the press to be some kind of midfield giant - he ain't and never has been. Bell was immense, a colossus, someone who bestrode the pitch and annihilated everyone and everything before him. Watch him celebrate a goal - he doesn't - no need for him to get all "showy", arms splayed, knees sliding, kissing the camera bollocks - he did the speaking with his feet.

A myth I wouldn't have minded in the team, Gerrard is and has been a great player.

Sorry Bluebee we'll have to agree to differ. By my understanding of "great" Gerrard fails. By a country mile. And more. Big fish in a small pond, happy to take all the scouse adulation and knowing he'll be eulogised by their press. But, when looked at in greater scrutiny, he just isn't "great". Greatness wins leagues.

 

[aguero93:20]

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Using Gerrard as a reference point for Bell is tantamount to treason. Gerrard is a fucking myth, built up by the press to be some kind of midfield giant - he ain't and never has been. Bell was immense, a colossus, someone who bestrode the pitch and annihilated everyone and everything before him. Watch him celebrate a goal - he doesn't - no need for him to get all "showy", arms splayed, knees sliding, kissing the camera bollocks - he did the speaking with his feet.

A myth I wouldn't have minded in the team, Gerrard is and has been a great player.

Sorry Bluebee we'll have to agree to differ. By my understanding of "great" Gerrard fails. By a country mile. And more. Big fish in a small pond, happy to take all the scouse adulation and knowing he'll be eulogised by their press. But, when looked at in greater scrutiny, he just isn't "great". Greatness wins leagues.

Great Teams win leagues.