De Bruyne?

You know what this arguing is like? it's like Ramsey's kitchen nightmares where Ramsey is brought in to improve a restaurant.
He comes in and identifies problem areas, and all of a sudden, the owner keeps arguing that nothing is wrong - in which case, nothing can be improved.
The moment he says the menus isn't right, or the soup tastes crap, the owner gets upset.

It's not moaning to say Fernando might be a weakness and could KdB or Delph give us something he can't. The positive is suggesting ways KdB or Delph might change things, but if you only want to see the negative, you'll focus on the Fernando criticism.
If we bring in KdB - someone else in the team will be moved out. There's no two ways about it. It's two sides of the same coin. KdB is the improvement, so who is the weakness we're fixing?
It really isn't all negative.
 
Agree re Milner and definitely about the Liverpool sketch you mention.

What I like about Delph is:

1. He presses well
2. He mithers fuck out of the opposition
3. He wins the ball well
4. He grafts his tits off, has a great engine, and is often found helping out in his own penalty box
5. He's a 'forward looking' player and looks to start attacks once he's won the ball

He's everything Fernando / Rodwell / Garcia turned out to not be. I'm looking forward to seeing how he shapes in a City shirt.

I agree in terms of Fernando, Rodwell and Garcia, but from 1 to 5 that is exactly the perfect description of Lee Cattermole. Obviously Delph is better though.
 
You have to sacrifice some players to do that - by being prepared to walk away - and the moment we do that, the fans will be up in arms saying 'why didn't we just pay the extra, we can afford it'. The only way we can enhance our reputation for being stalwart in deals is by being prepared to walk. But are we (club and fans) really prepared to do that?
Also, it's a total myth that we have unlimited funds, and I think some other clubs possibly over estimate how much we have to play with. Wolfsburg can easily think 50m is no great problem for us (which it isn't in isolation), but as part of a whole summer packager involving other high value targets, it CAN be an issue, and of course, they want us to sacrifice other deals in order to spend more on their own transfer).

This is where Txiki's on a hiding to nothing:

1) Some players won't want to come - nothing we can do.
2) Some players will be reluctant and need to be persuaded (usually money) - but that's not a good sign for an expensive buy, and it usually means they are costing more than they should, which has knock on effects on other deals.
3) Half the fans are wanting a big name players
4) The other half are demanding we're not taken advantage of and need to tell other clubs to sod off if they're taking us for a ride.
5) Precisely the same is happening with outgoing players, where half the fans want rid at any cost, and the other half want to hold out for what WE think the true value is.

Whatever he (or City) does, someone's not going to like it.

Agree. But you forgot to name the group that want things to happen to having bragging right to some raggies they know. The ones that think a player is brilliant and they don't understand why we're not after him ourselves. The ones that even go as far as stating they want City to drive up the price to store things up and make Scum pay more money or fail to get their target.
 
Its just a clear lack of intelligence for you on his part. They cannot debate, it just ends up leading to insults.

He needs to tone down the swearing, will be bursting blood vessels any minute.
Stop wumming please. Destroying this topic
 
I agree in terms of Fernando, Rodwell and Garcia, but from 1 to 5 that is exactly the perfect description of Lee Cattermole. Obviously Delph is better though.

Yeah and every top team needs a player like that who does all the mundane, shitty, unglamorous tasks and does them well.

That, my, friend, is Fabian Delph.
 
But Barry would be a total liability in this team due to the high line and expansive game we play. Gareth Barry could not play in this team, he just did not have the legs. The only reason Barry was able to the way he did was because of the systems he played in. He would be useless in our current system.
Yaya is out linchpin, Delph has been bought to compliment Yaya in the big games imo.

My apologies for going off thread, there were just some posts that I generally disagreed with.

The thing is, Barry as a player pressed well for us, I feel that he did have the energy levels for us and i cannot pick out one player in the City side at the time who worked as hard as Barry did, he covered almost every blade of grass and at times was an unmovable object in some of the bigger games v Rags and Chelsea. Fernandinho is an upgrade in terms of mobility, but having a player like Barry in the squad would not go a miss. Just hope Delph can offer just as much as Barry did.
 

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