De Bruyne?

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citizens_1976 said:
I will as well, but if he is anywhere near as good as Barry was for us, then we will have acquired a good player. Barry was a very underrated signing for us which is massively under appreciated by many.
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What is your obsession with Barry, great as he was,has gone, not good enough for us anymore, Delph will be a step up
 
Bluemanc100 said:
Off topic sorry but I'd suggest we wait to see what Delph can do, he was awesome (admittedly in a lower league) at Leeds wasn't he? He did Ok at Villa and the fans loved him

He'll do just fine at City I'm sure
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He might do, but i won't be getting carried away needlessly over him. He is nothing more than a squad player in my eyes.
 
FanchesterCity said:
He was considered bang average by most City fans. Then when he comes to us, he's got huge potential. Then he changes his mind and returns to bang average / bottler, and now he's got huge potential again.
It's the same with most clubs fans. I think he's another water carrier who is a decent squad player for 8m, and his HG status counts heavily in his favour. He's not Pirlo though.
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He's no Sinclair either!
The thing is though, will he up his game around the leap in class? That he was captain at Villa, atleast shows he has some mettle, so I'd give him the benefit of the doubt, and hope he's an improvement on Fernando and gives us some of that De Jong like bite in the middle when we need it
 
citizens_1976 said:
I will as well, but if he is anywhere near as good as Barry was for us, then we will have acquired a good player. Barry was a very underrated signing for us which is massively under appreciated by many.
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Totally different player. If you asked Barry to do what Delph does, he wouldn't have a hope & no way does Delph read a defensive game like Barry, who was one of the best.

But neither he nor DeJong would suit this team, nor were they athletic enough to cover for Yaya in Europe.
 
grim up north said:
What is your obsession with Barry, great as he was,has gone, not good enough for us anymore, Delph will be a step up
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Delph a step up from Barry... OK.

Come back when Delph has earned anywhere near the England caps Barry did. Not a chance. Villa fans all seemed to rate Barry MUCH higher too.
 
bluemoon98 said:
fuck sake of course he's not Pirlo. Don't understand people like you who just said is a decent squad player and HG status is key for why we bought him BUT he's not one of the best midfielders to play the game? who is available? who is available and falls into your category of 'Pirlo-esque'
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What's hard to understand.
It's about accepting a player for what he is. Not getting over hyped thinking he's going to make us CL winners. We can't have 22 superstars. We need a mix. He's a great buy (IMO), but that doesn't mean I should get overly optimistic about what he can bring to the team. We need water carriers AND creative players. The problem is fans getting the two mixed up and slagging off a water carrier because he's not a superstar, or raising expectations of a player thinking he will turn out to be one.
 
Neville Kneville said:
Totally different player. If you asked Barry to do what Delph does, he wouldn't have a hope & no way does Delph read a defensive game like Barry, who was one of the best.

But neither he nor DeJong would suit this team, nor were they athletic enough to cover for Yaya in Europe.
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Not saying i would want either of them now anyway, just feel that we haven't made a significant improvement which is why i think another midfielder is needed in order for us to keep progressing, especially in Europe.

As for pace, Matic is slow and he does just fine in Europe for Chelsea.
 
FanchesterCity said:
What's hard to understand.
It's about accepting a player for what he is. Not getting over hyped thinking he's going to make us CL winners. We can't have 22 superstars. We need a mix. He's a great buy (IMO), but that doesn't mean I should get overly optimistic about what he can bring to the team. We need water carriers AND creative players. The problem is fans getting the two mixed up and slagging off a water carrier because he's not a superstar, or raising expectations of a player thinking he will turn out to be one.
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i didnt say he was a CL winner if you read my post. Opinions will differ and you have to put up with that but imo Delph is a very solid buy for our CM
 
citizens_1976 said:
Delph a step up from Barry... OK.

Come back when Delph has earned anywhere near the England caps Barry did. Not a chance. Villa fans all seemed to rate Barry MUCH higher too.
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Well being as barry started his england career in 1998 in the u17 (?) might take awhile... Anyway barry and delph both perform/performed alot better at their clubs rather than the national team imo.
 
Why are Gareth Barry and Fabian Delph being discussed in a thread about the transfer of De Bruyne? So hard to stay on track in the transfer forum these days
 
At the end off the day we are employing people to do what is best for the club, If we can get KDB for £40 million rather than £50 million then it will have been worth the extra few weeks in the long run.

Although it looks like FFP in it's current guise looks like a lame duck it may be revamped, that £10 million may make all the difference.

Tixxi will be measured like everyone else and will have a budget to work to, no matter how much we have set aside we will be looking to pay as little as we can get away with.
 
A little bit off topic but here's an update on DeBruyne ;)
@City_Watch: Mirror: Sources at City believe they are close to a figure, thought to be around £40m, that will persuade Wolfsburg to sell them De Bruyne.
 
Every player is different, but Barry get a bad name because people perceived him as slow. What they often miss is that he could slow things down deliberately which can be a real asset in a midfield. A little terrier midfielder has their place, but so does a calm / relaxed player. That was Barry's strength (and weakness).
You can say the opposite for Sterling. He's a real speed merchant, but not so good when you just need a slow calm approach. It's up to the manager to utilise the best attributes of players in the best situations. If he gets it wrong though, it makes the player look twice as bad.

Overall, I believe Barry was damn good for us. Not good enough for the CL champions we'd like to be. But we're still in that situation now, seeking upgrades on 3-4 of our squad.
 
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