Devolution For The Regions - Gtr Manchester

[PPT]

As of two months ago and after 7 years in office 63.4% of the voting electorate of Greater Manchester don’t agree with you or they wouldn’t have voted for him. He must be doing something right to maintain that level of support. His support level is identical to when he was first elected in 2017 although the actual number that voted for him compared to 2017 has gone up due to an increased turnout.

You could put up a greyhound wearing a cravat for Labour in Manchester and it would get 63.4% of the vote.

 

[MouldensChippy]

As of two months ago and after 7 years in office 63.4% of the voting electorate of Greater Manchester don’t agree with you or they wouldn’t have voted for him. He must be doing something right to maintain that level of support. His support level is identical to when he was first elected in 2017 although the actual number that voted for him compared to 2017 has gone up due to an increased turnout.

From a turnout of 32.05% !

 

[blueparrot]

You could put up a greyhound wearing a cravat for Labour in Manchester and it would get 63.4% of the vote.

I'm friendly with an architect that works on projects all over the country and he says Burnham is by far the best and easiest leader of a council that he has worked with. Says he has a clear vision and plan of what he wants and how to get there.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

From a turnout of 32.05% !

He can’t be that bad then, otherwise the other 67.95% would have actively wanted to vote him out.

 

[Brewster's millions]

From a turnout of 32.05% !

Barely one in five people could be arsed voting for him.

Quite the endorsement.

 

[west didsblue]

Barely one in five people could be arsed voting for him.

Quite the endorsement.

And only one in ten voted against him.
Works both ways.

 

[MouldensChippy]

He can’t be that bad then, otherwise the other 67.95% would have actively wanted to vote him out.

Hardly a ringing endorsement when over two thirds of an electorate see little point in using their vote.

Especially when it was put to a referendum over whether a metro mayor was wanted, the electorate voted against it, but got one anyway !

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Hardly a ringing endorsement when over two thirds of an electorate see little point in using their vote.

Especially when it was put to a referendum over whether a metro mayor was wanted, the electorate voted against it, but got one anyway !

The Tories do tend to do the unnecessary to stop them being scrutinised.

 

[PPT]

I'm friendly with an architect that works on projects all over the country and he says Burnham is by far the best and easiest leader of a council that he has worked with. Says he has a clear vision and plan of what he wants and how to get there.

I’d like him to share his clear vision of what he wants and how he is going to get there. And importantly when?
If the current state of Manchester City centre is anything to by then he has the vision of Stevie Wonder.

 

[mexico1970]

I’d like him to share his clear vision of what he wants and how he is going to get there. And importantly when?
If the current state of Manchester City centre is anything to by then he has the vision of Stevie Wonder.

Fuck knows what his house is like if he thinks that is acceptable, wouldn't anyone leaving Piccadilly station walking towards Piccadilly gardens think they got off in the 3rd world?

And he still gets votes?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Fuck knows what his house is like if he thinks that is acceptable, wouldn't anyone leaving Piccadilly station walking towards Piccadilly gardens think they got off in the 3rd world?

And he still gets votes?

He won, get over it.

 

[blueparrot]

I’d like him to share his clear vision of what he wants and how he is going to get there. And importantly when?
If the current state of Manchester City centre is anything to by then he has the vision of Stevie Wonder.

I have no idea either, about Manchester nor councils around the UK as a comparison, but just passing on what somebody that works with him and many council leaders think. Obviously everything is within budget constraints and I assume a lot would be confidential.

 

[PPT]

He won, get over it.

We all know he won. He was always going to win. That was never, ever in doubt, so it's no biggie and nothing to "get over". The question is when is he going to deliver on his promises? The state of City Centre Manchester
is nothing short of appalling. Without question, it has seriously deteriorated since he was elected. Why?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

We all know he won. He was always going to win. That was never, ever in doubt, so it's no biggie and nothing to "get over". The question is when is he going to deliver on his promises? The state of City Centre Manchester
is nothing short of appalling. Without question, it has seriously deteriorated since he was elected. Why?

Stagnation of wages, rising house prices, austerity, lack of funding, people taking drugs as escapism from the bleakness of their lives.

Take your pick. There’ll be loads of other reasons too.

 

[BrianW]

You could put up a greyhound wearing a cravat for Labour in Manchester and it would get 63.4% of the vote.

I'd vote for it. I like greyhounds. No greyhound has ever shit on me from a great height, unlike certain politicians I could name.

 

[BrianW]

We all know he won. He was always going to win. That was never, ever in doubt, so it's no biggie and nothing to "get over". The question is when is he going to deliver on his promises? The state of City Centre Manchester
is nothing short of appalling. Without question, it has seriously deteriorated since he was elected. Why?

The answer to your question is complex.

Partly the dire economic state of the country. Partly changes in society and a total lack of respect for the public realm. Partly inadequate resources to sort it out. The problem is that (what we would all see as a lot of money) does not go that far. A billion quid is chicken feed in the context of what needs doing.

Manchester is relatively prosperous for a provincial city. But to use the old phrase 'Private affluence, public squalor.' It's very hard to turn around. It's an attitude as much as anything. It reflects our collective priorities far more than it does Burnham's abilities or lack thereof.

 

[mexico1970]

I'm friendly with an architect that works on projects all over the country and he says Burnham is by far the best and easiest leader of a council that he has worked with. Says he has a clear vision and plan of what he wants and how to get there.

Can't we drag him by his nose to Piccadilly gardens so he can see for himself what he has achieved?

 

[PPT]

I'd vote for it. I like greyhounds. No greyhound has ever shit on me from a great height, unlike certain politicians I could name.

But greyhounds do shit. And they fart a lot as well. I used to own one.

 

[PPT]

Stagnation of wages, rising house prices, austerity, lack of funding, people taking drugs as escapism from the bleakness of their lives.

Take your pick. There’ll be loads of other reasons too.

And loads of excuses too.

 

[PPT]

The answer to your question is complex.

Partly the dire economic state of the country. Partly changes in society and a total lack of respect for the public realm. Partly inadequate resources to sort it out. The problem is that (what we would all see as a lot of money) does not go that far. A billion quid is chicken feed in the context of what needs doing.

Manchester is relatively prosperous for a provincial city. But to use the old phrase 'Private affluence, public squalor.' It's very hard to turn around. It's an attitude as much as anything. It reflects our collective priorities far more than it does Burnham's abilities or lack thereof.

Agree with all of that. However, one of Burnham’s main pledges before he got elected, was to sort out the homeless problem in Manchester. It has demonstrably worsened since he took office.