Discuss Pellegrini

St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
BillyShears said:
Rammy Blue said:
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Haha. You beat me to it - was just looking for an appropriate gif!

Going back to your post earlier, it's definitely strange that he hasn't changed things round mid game. However it's just too early to make any real judgements right now. As I keep saying the league's much tougher this season and there will be no easy games. As Chelsea are currently finding out.


Chelsea created loads and loads of chances Billy.
And re the 80 million-we all know that the signings last summer were not his choices.
Everton deserved the win as Chelsea's forward play was rubbish

I'll take a point with a makeshift team at Stoke, but every City fan should be concerned about our sudden inability to control possession and hem teams in like we did last season. Pellegrini has to sort this out and quickly
 
He needs to forget names and reputations and find the best eleven that gel.

If that involves 'superstars' sitting on the bench,then that is what is required.
 
hilts said:
NipHolmes said:
The cookie monster said:
It's called covering all your bases
Nip first said top 4 will be fine
Then started a thread that we WILL win the league aft the Newcastle match
Now top 3 is o.k again

Tbf most of us have done the same

I made that thread before the Newcastle game.

You know full well I said that top 4 and progression in Europe was my requirement. However I believe we can win the league.

I'm not fussed what others think, remember last season when 40k sang Bobbys name. Some good that did. What counts is what the people upstairs think and right now I am sure they aren't propping the ceiling up with acroprops waiting for the sky to fall in. Instead they are probably waiting for next week which is a crucial time for us.

You do know that you get 3 points if you beat stoke or the rags don't you? can you please tell me how you came to the conclusion that pelligrini is a good manager but you think he picks the wrong players and system, you seem to have missed this point

Yes I know. But us beating the Rags means they dont get anything.

I've missed nothing. Pellegrini favours the 4-2-2-2, check his history. However Yaya imo simply does not fit this formation. Please tell me where Yaya should play provisionally in said formation?

The 4231 would have two box to box runners in Kilner and Fernandinho whilst playing Yaya in his best position. We would lose his deep passes forward but we would dominate more midfields and be very strong. The orblem then is that we have Aguero, Dzeko and Negredo all vying for one place in the team, hence why we play with two attackers imo.<br /><br />-- Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:39 pm --<br /><br />
de niro said:
Rammy Blue said:
de niro said:
I am seriously pissing myself at the mancini outers, on here, in the dressing room and in the boardroom.

all fucking idiots.

Sheikh Mansour is a fucking idiot?

rammy mate, me, you and half this forum know more about football than our owner. he will have been guided by the gruesome twosome.

On my life, I am utterly perplexed at what you've just wrote and so flabbergasted I feel that my sanity can only remain with logging off.

The gruesome twosome. Unbelievable.

P.S. Google them and see who many top clubs chased their appointments.
 
the saving grace is its so early in the season, time to put things right. returning players will also help. put it this way we can't possibly get any worse.......can we?
 
de niro said:
the saving grace is its so early in the season, time to put things right. returning players will also help. put it this way we can't possibly get any worse.......can we?

You had to ask....
 
NipHolmes said:
hilts said:
NipHolmes said:
I made that thread before the Newcastle game.

You know full well I said that top 4 and progression in Europe was my requirement. However I believe we can win the league.

I'm not fussed what others think, remember last season when 40k sang Bobbys name. Some good that did. What counts is what the people upstairs think and right now I am sure they aren't propping the ceiling up with acroprops waiting for the sky to fall in. Instead they are probably waiting for next week which is a crucial time for us.

You do know that you get 3 points if you beat stoke or the rags don't you? can you please tell me how you came to the conclusion that pelligrini is a good manager but you think he picks the wrong players and system, you seem to have missed this point

Yes I know. But us beating the Rags means they dont get anything.

I've missed nothing. Pellegrini favours the 4-2-2-2, check his history. However Yaya imo simply does not fit this formation. Please tell me where Yaya should play provisionally in said formation?

The 4231 would have two box to box runners in Kilner and Fernandinho whilst playing Yaya in his best position. We would lose his deep passes forward but we would dominate more midfields and be very strong. The orblem then is that we have Aguero, Dzeko and Negredo all vying for one place in the team, hence why we play with two attackers imo.

This is the point fella if you can see why we need to play a 3 man midfiled and you think garcia is gash why would you rate pelligrini? it doesnt make sense, surely a good manager picks the best formation dependent on players not his favoured formation, if you can see it why can't he?

this is not having a go at the boss just don't get your logic
 
de niro said:
the saving grace is its so early in the season, time to put things right. returning players will also help. put it this way we can't possibly get any worse.......can we?
Returning players won't fix our being overrun in midfield. The manager has to fix that. So far he's refused to bend on it.
 
MeatnSpudsMCFC said:
Pellegrini isn't a problem... neither was Mancini. There's an attitude amongst the players that they are bigger than the manager and until that's stamped out, players will continue to put in half arsed performances. Too often has there been passengers in the side.

People on here are way too critical of management level but are incredibly defensive of players. It was the same with Adebayor, he walked all over the club and people continued to kiss his ass. It was only until he left did people finally admit what a twat he was. I'll probably get shot down for this, but I think it's a good example, THEM across the road. Anyone who pissed Ferguson off was instantly in the fireing line... Rooney being the obvious and look at the shit Bebe got. Chelsea are a club that also share the same problem as us, perhaps even worse for them as they seem to have the holy trinity (Terry, Lampard & Cole) calling the shots. Endless amounts of managers come and go but the game never changes, even now for Chelsea, Mourinho has returned but Terry, Lampard and Cole will always come first, despite their inconsistant performances. Load of new tactics, new management, new players brought in but the core of the problem always around like a bad smell. I think longetivity is the solution, if a manager is around for a good solid eight years... he instantly has a presence. Wenger at Arsenal is another, there's no way they'll ever have the balls to sack him... not just because he is the core of the club, but despite Arsenal being pretty damn crap, they still manage to blag their way into the top four no matter how mediocre they look. Liverpool also currently share our problem, probably worse as they don't have the financial muscle to compete with us, Saint Gerrard or some racist twat comes before the manager. Dalglish had to go through all sorts of sh*t to defend Suarez, still cost him his job and Suarez sails on happily.

Barcelona? Another core of players, however, they've benefited from it. Xavi, Messi, Iniesta, Puyol etc. Piss any of them off and you're probably out the door... not such a bad thing as the only way you'll be out the door is if you're not pulling your weight.

Real Madrid? Things not what they once were for them. Zidane, Raul and Casillas once the core. New signings were always monster fees hence putting them under the spotlight, they HAD to perform or once again, they're in the sh*t. Probably similar to ourselves right now.

I think we're building some sort of core, but we have to stick to them. Hart, Kompany & Zabaleta are the big ones. But the club has to keep hold of them aswell as the manager. We've got to have expectations and aim high, but it's down to Pellegrini, Hart, Kompany and Zabaleta to enforce them. If you feel someone isn't pulling their weight, you call them out. Mancini did the same last season with Nasri, even getting to a point where he made it public. It's evident that behind the scenes no player backed him or supported his motion, instead they all turned on him and drove him out the door. Yet Mancini was right, Nasri was being lazy and as soon as Mancini did call him out, he finally got his finger out. As I said, people on here and even the stands are too defensive of the players.
Good post too easily overlooked by the bickering petty point scoring fraternity on here
 

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