Discuss Pellegrini

[Marvin]

It can't be a coincidence we share an identical record with United and Chelsea, currently, both who have also changed the manager?

Yet, both Mourinho and Moyes are already fully conversant in the ways of the Premier League.

They say one man doesn't make a team but I would beg to differ, and dare say, Barcelona fans would also agree.

The loss of Kompany has also coincided with our worst performances and results under Mancini over the course of two seasons.

Vinny's return will allow Pellegrini to expand his thinking and selection processes by ten-fold.[/quote

Thats exactly what I was thinking. I don't think people fully appreciate how important to the whole team Kompany is.
Not just his defending and leadership, he seems to have an almost magical aura around him that lifts the whole team.
I think this was particular showing against Newcastle, blowing them away, easy win. Then last 20 mins or so we lost Vinny, the whole team just went to pieces.

We play out of defence, and not only has Kompany been out but all his deputies.

I remember this time last season when Vidic was out at Utd. Their defence was leaking goals, but they got threw it because RVP was on fire

Kompany said on Twitter "Feeling great and ready to give it my all again".

As others have wisely said. Football is all about confidence and Kompany gives us that reassurance

We'll be much happier when we have Kompany and Demichelis back. I hope we don't take any risks with him.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

If Kompany really is that important to us then he needs to be told to stop lunging in and picking up stupid, totally avoidable injuries.

For me it purely down to Aguero, silva, Yaya playing nowhere near as well as they can, fernandinho and Navas struggling to pick up the pace and Dzeko reverting to the Dzeko we know only too well.

The manager has to sort this quickly because if we lose against the scum next week, playing as badly as we have been then for some the knives will start to
come out and pressure will build.

A win in the week and a win next week and all this talk will be resigned to the archives....

 

[hgblue]

Take Messi out of the Barcelona team and you start to realise, it's not a bad thing.

PSG were taking the piss out of Barca at the Camp Nou until they went for broke and brought on a half-fit hobbling Messi.

The psychological impact certain players have can't be stressed enough.

If Silva, Yaya, even Aguero are missing from the team-sheet, I'm like 'Oh, well'.

I see Komps out of that back four and like our opponents, 'City are half a team'.

Look at Gerrard at Liverpool, an amazing force of nature for over a decade.

Instead of the shite Mancini bought last summer, that £50m should have gone on another centre-back and another left-back.

I'm pretty sure Mancini wanted Thiago Silva? De Rossi? Martinez? Interesting that we didn't sign a single defensive player in this transfer window until Kompany got injured and we panicked.

Two of those are midfielders, whatever their other merits, bud.

I'm in a pretty small minority, but I don't actually rate Thiago Silva that highly, certainly not the cash he moved for. Same for De Rossi, another I have a hard time imagining doing a £40m song and dance for.

Sure, it would have looked good on the headlines, and large sections of our support would have dined out on the bragging rights.

I was laughed out of court at the time, but I still believe we missed a huge trick not snapping up Gary Cahill for what he was going for, simply in terms of adding additional strength.

We really did strike it rich the day Hughes got Kompany for £6m!

We needed a centre back and a holding midfielder. De Rossi and Martinez are holding midfielders who piss all over Garcia in that position but can also do a better than average job at centre back. Maybe that's what Mancini had in mind? Thiago Silva is a top quality centre back and would have been an excellent signing for us. Fair enough, we don't want to pay the fees and wages anymore, so lets look at the likes of Cahill. I've no problem with that, but lets address the issue, preferably in the next transfer window.

 

[Anonymous]

No, no, no. We simply need to revert back to how we played last season and the season before defensively. System all the players were comfortable with, knew inside and out and paid dividends. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

If Kompany really is that important to us then he needs to be told to stop lunging in and picking up stupid, totally avoidable injuries.

For me it purely down to Aguero, silva, Yaya playing nowhere near as well as they can, fernandinho and Navas struggling to pick up the pace and Dzeko reverting to the Dzeko we know only too well.

The manager has to sort this quickly because if we lose against the scum next week, playing as badly as we have been then for some the knives will start to
come out and pressure will build.

A win in the week and a win next week and all this talk will be resigned to the archives....

Be really honest with you mate. I am predicting 2 losses which fucking hurts.

 

[casualdeyna]

I've been concerned by our performances so far but not so much the results as its far too early to panic. I remember winding rags up about 5 years back when we beat them 1-0 with a Geovani goal to put them near the bottom of the league about 4 games in, they ended up winning it come end of season.

Scolari came to Chelsea with a good reputation and he had a great start to the season, he was sacked before the end of it.

So even though we haven't hit the ground running its way too early to make any other judgement than a slow start.

Next two games are crucial and we've got to start playing soon. It will also be easier making a judgement when everyone is fit but we have only played well once so far and that was against 10 men

 

[flb]

For the record, I've always rated Kompany, and the only players, from memory, that I've never rated are Garcia and Sinclair. The problem with having an opinion is that it can come back to bite you on the arse I suppose, but to be honest, I'm only voicing concerns that are surely shared by the vast majority of blues at the moment? I'm not calling for the manager to be sacked, and I retain the hope that it's early days and he will come good given time, but I'm worried and I don't mind admitting it.

I've always liked your posts hg you know that, and I completely agree with the sentiments in this one too. Absolutely this forum is almost the only place to come and discuss the manager. But there seems to be a lack of appreciation from certain posters to the reality that we are four games into a new season with new players bedding in and a new manager. Given that it seems unwise to make any rash or sweeping generalisation about whether he will be a success or a failure.

You know what I think but i'll stick it up here again. Pellegrini is a top manager who's teams have historically played exciting fluid attacking football. The prospect of him having the players we have at our disposal is mouthwatering. We might not yet have seen much of any of this, but for me it'll come and it'll come sooner than people think.

My gut tells me this forum will be a very different place after we spank the rags next weekend.

Love your optimism mate, defend like we have been doing then its curtains next Sunday

 

[Anonymous]

No, no, no. We simply ned to revert back to how we played last season and the season before defensively. System all the players were comfortable with, knew inside and out and paid dividends. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

It doesn't work like that though. Fundamentally it was broke because we won nothing last season and got made to look like fucking school children in the CL. To implement a new system, one which is more intensive on all the players, will take a little time. But once it's there we'll be better for it.

The best analogy I can draw is the transition Arsenal went through when Wenger came in. Some of their supporters derided his appointment in the same way some of ours are deriding Pellegrini's appointment.

 

[salfordblue-tony2]

I've been concerned by our performances so far but not so much the results as its far too early to panic. I remember winding rags up about 5 years back when we beat them 1-0 with a Geovani goal to put them near the bottom of the league about 4 games in, they ended up winning it come end of season.

Scolari came to Chelsea with a good reputation and he had a great start to the season, he was sacked before the end of it.

So even though we haven't hit the ground running its way too early to make any other judgement than a slow start.

Next two games are crucial and we've got to start playing soon. It will also be easier making a judgement when everyone is fit but we have only played well once so far and that was against 10 men

And with Captain Marvel at the back for most of it.

 

[Skashion]

Am I mistaken for thinking that there is quite a bit more sympathy for injuries under Pellegrini than under Mancini from certain parties? I'm quite sure that injuries were used as a stick to beat Mancini with last season as once again it proved his ineptitude to adapt and to fully utilise his very expensive squad. Now, if Kompany's out, as he was more than once last season - starting 68.4% of last season's league games compared to 81.5% the season before and 97.3% the season before that, apparently this is just bad luck and says nothing about Pellegrini's ability to utilise his even more expensive squad? I definitely think there is a disparity there. I think I detect the smell of egoism once again.