Tim of the Oak
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andyhinch said:
Probably a lot of people think there has been a knee jerk reaction after only 2 games.
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Probably a lot of people think there has been a knee jerk reaction after only 2 games.
Skashion
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You really are better off asking someone else when it comes to who unofficially called the shots and when. I get no information from inside the club. If the getting of ITK information was a game of chess, I would be a pawn.robbieh said:Was Txiki here when we bought Sinclair, Maicon, Rodwell and Garcia. Ferran was here. Or was this all down to Marwood? Certainly Mancini might have wanted Maicon, ex Inter, and apparently rated Rodwell.
The new signings if they are Txiki's do seem sound. The only question concerns letting Kolo go and not getting a CB in.
No, Txiki wasn't here, at least not officially. Ferran's official operating role is to grow revenue, although there will definitely be more to it than that, but getting players is more Txiki's responsibility both officially and one would have to believe de facto. It's the role to which he is best suited. As to how much input Pellegrini or Soriano has, again, I am the opposite of ITK. Doubleplus unITK.
-- Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:36 pm --
You are one of the few people who has genuinely pissed me off though. You're one of only two people who I've blocked. You're the only person I've blocked twice.gordondaviesmoustache said:You can't say I haven't been trying, baby.
phil31
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Skashion said:You really are better off asking someone else when it comes to who unofficially called the shots and when. I get no information from inside the club. If the getting of ITK information was a game of chess, I would be a pawn.robbieh said:Was Txiki here when we bought Sinclair, Maicon, Rodwell and Garcia. Ferran was here. Or was this all down to Marwood? Certainly Mancini might have wanted Maicon, ex Inter, and apparently rated Rodwell.
The new signings if they are Txiki's do seem sound. The only question concerns letting Kolo go and not getting a CB in.
No, Txiki wasn't here, at least not officially. Ferran's official operating role is to grow revenue, although there will definitely be more to it than that, but getting players is more Txiki's responsibility both officially and one would have to believe de facto. It's the role to which he is best suited. As to how much input Pellegrini or Soriano has, again, I am the opposite of ITK. Doubleplus unITK.
-- Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:36 pm --
You are one of the few people who has genuinely pissed me off though. You're one of only two people who I've blocked. You're the only person I've blocked twice.gordondaviesmoustache said:You can't say I haven't been trying, baby.
I still think it should be a make or break season for the Spanish waiters though
Skashion
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I am nothing if not a destroyer of the English language.Damocles said:I'd just like to show my appreciation for you using the phrase "doubleplus" after my accusations of fascism on your part.
gordondaviesmoustache
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Blocked? How does that work?Skashion said:You are one of the few people who has genuinely pissed me off though. You're one of only two people who I've blocked. You're the only person I've blocked twice.gordondaviesmoustache said:You can't say I haven't been trying, baby.
Skashion
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It usually starts with you being an utter ****.gordondaviesmoustache said:Blocked? How does that work?
gordondaviesmoustache
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It has been known.Skashion said:It usually starts with you being an utter ****.gordondaviesmoustache said:Blocked? How does that work?
Kazzydeyna
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Back after my ban (for what I genuinely do not know), with my two pennarth.
Under ordinary circumstances I would be one of those posters screaming in frustration that we are even having a discussion about a new manager after only two games in charge, but sadly these are not ordinary circumstances.
Forget the Mancini in or out bollocks, we have to look at facts here.
RM was sacked, unceremoniously and disgustingly, by our two Spanish leaders last may. There have been numerous reasons surmised about, but I think we can all agree that the central theme of their reasoning was that RM was not seen as being inclusive enough around the club. We all know the famous tale of how he didn't make a point every morning of searching out the kitman's 24th in command to discuss last nights coronation street etc.
For me, the job of a football manager is primarily to be successful. I don't really care if he is a nice guy or not, and neither should anyone else.
I think the issue here is that these two Spanish fellas have put Pelli under enormous pressure unnecessarily.
If, after a dozen games or so, we are not top or at least within a point or two at most of top, the pressure will crank up on him even more. And that's wrong.
The results this season, and the Manner of them home AND away, are a direct pointer to the effectiveness of these two Barça boys. Win the league, or come close, progress in ECL, playing great attacking football all over Europe and they've done the minimum required of them.
Fail to win the league, and fail to progress to the latter stages in Europe and it isn't just pelligrini that should be sacked, it is the two Spanish supremos.
For me, if we get to the end of September and aren't ripping up trees I would want these two gone. That is the price they may have to pay for replacing the best manager many of us have ever seen at city, because he "wasn't good enough". That's the thing you see. When you do that YOUR replacement has to be beyond criticism.
Under ordinary circumstances I would be one of those posters screaming in frustration that we are even having a discussion about a new manager after only two games in charge, but sadly these are not ordinary circumstances.
Forget the Mancini in or out bollocks, we have to look at facts here.
RM was sacked, unceremoniously and disgustingly, by our two Spanish leaders last may. There have been numerous reasons surmised about, but I think we can all agree that the central theme of their reasoning was that RM was not seen as being inclusive enough around the club. We all know the famous tale of how he didn't make a point every morning of searching out the kitman's 24th in command to discuss last nights coronation street etc.
For me, the job of a football manager is primarily to be successful. I don't really care if he is a nice guy or not, and neither should anyone else.
I think the issue here is that these two Spanish fellas have put Pelli under enormous pressure unnecessarily.
If, after a dozen games or so, we are not top or at least within a point or two at most of top, the pressure will crank up on him even more. And that's wrong.
The results this season, and the Manner of them home AND away, are a direct pointer to the effectiveness of these two Barça boys. Win the league, or come close, progress in ECL, playing great attacking football all over Europe and they've done the minimum required of them.
Fail to win the league, and fail to progress to the latter stages in Europe and it isn't just pelligrini that should be sacked, it is the two Spanish supremos.
For me, if we get to the end of September and aren't ripping up trees I would want these two gone. That is the price they may have to pay for replacing the best manager many of us have ever seen at city, because he "wasn't good enough". That's the thing you see. When you do that YOUR replacement has to be beyond criticism.