Donald Trump

Just how many Hitler’s do the LWNJ’s on here have?
Go to the Reform thread and Farage is Hitler. Come to the Trump thread and he’s Hitler. Boris was close to being Hitler.
Come on guys be a bit more imaginative. You can do better than this. Can’t you?

As all terms that can be used for the purpose of easy denuncification, its overused to that purpose. Januari 6 however is not something you can ignore. When mobs come into play (potentially armed mobs even) that can overpower local authority and force the regime, you are much in the fascist modus operandi where domination trough force and strenght is deemed a justified ideal.
 
As bad as that is, is it really comparable to hitler? Who killed millions of people in one of the worst acts in history.

Both terrible people, but as someone who has Jewish family who escaped Europe during ww2, there is no comparison.

There’s probably much better examples. It’s a bit of a lazy insult really.
There is no comparison yet. That was my point, The world stood back and watched as Hitler took power,because he was Germanys problem, until he wasn't.

I'm not saying Trump will go on a genocidic spree, or invade Canada, what I'm saying is the impact on the World could be catastrophic.

Only when he is completely gone from the picture, whether by not being re-elected, or when he is called down to the inner of the 7 hells, will we truly be able to judge. By then, as with old Adolph, it may be too late
 
- The continued dissolution, if not outright destruction, of what is left of American democratic institutions, as is the stated goal of the MAGA movement, and which Trump began in earnest in his first term

- The arrest or worse of perceived political enemies, opposition, and dissenters, including (ironically) calling for an carrying out political violence against opposition groups and protests, as he did during his first term and as consistently incited throughout his campaigns

- The stripping away of civil liberties for anyone deemed outside of the MAGA ideal, particularly removing most rights of women, immigrants (horrifically, as he did in his first term, I might add), and minority groups, primarily through the construction of a theocratic fascist state, which Trump and his cronies also set the foundation for in his first team and which they continue to allude to fulfilling in a second term

- Aligning the US with warmongering, murderous dictators like Putin and Kim, and strengthening ties to far-right, corrupt, murderous leaders likes Netanyahu and MBS, whilst weakening or even outright severing diplomatic and military support of current American allies, including the EU and Ukraine, and attempting to dissolve NATO, allowing Putin, Netanyahu, and others to continue their scorched earth wars of illegal annexation and genocide, which he began in his first term

- Starting an outright trade war (or conventional) war with China through horrifically bad economic and diplomatic action, which he again began in his first term

- Destroying what is left of the social welfare system in the US, accelerating income inequality, intensifying poverty, and strengthening the corporate and special interest grip on politics in america

- Repealing most voting laws protecting citizens from disenfranchisement, political retribution, and actual persecution for their political beliefs

- Cementing himself as the “King of America” based on his selected Supreme Court’s ruling on Presidential Immunity which is seemingly going to protect him from any accountability for his actions in the past or future

- Very likely refusing to leave after his second term is over (or installing one of his sons as president to create a political dynasty), ending any semblance of a democratic process for the election of government

- Further normalising political corruption not seen since the days of Nixon and enriching his family, businesses, and political allies using the apparatus of government

- Potentially intentionally instigating a low grade civil war in America

And those are just things he or his cronies have done or have said he or his cronies will do. There are many other things that could happen based on the reactions of other leaders and nations to his destructive policies and actions.

Hitler’s run to his truly horrific acts started in a similar fashion (minus first being elected, admittedly), including a failed insurrection that wasn’t dealt with properly and only lead to him becoming an even more powerful figure that was eventually elected leader before he and his cronies dismantled the democratic system to ensure he would stay in absolute power.
thanks, you answered that far more exhaustively than I did :)
 
As all terms that can be used for the purpose of easy denuncification, its overused to that purpose. Januari 6 however is not something you can ignore. When mobs come into play (potentially armed mobs even) that can overpower local authority and force the regime, you are much in the fascist modus operandi where domination trough force and strenght is deemed a justified ideal.

Not sure district, county or unitary councils have standing armies anymore. :)
 
We would fully expect that trump, when he wins, tries to become an authoritarian leader in the US trough such methods of corrupting law and the law system. And there is plenty of precedent, indication or reason to make that a very legit concern, lest the electorate is a bunch of utter naive fools when it regards to politics.
 
How about withdrawal from the Paris climate accord? You probably agree (assuming you don't think climate change is a conspiracy theory, if you do then stop reading here), that that is a bad thing for us all. In addition he has already (in his previous term) removed a number of emissions limits on US industries, causing further environmental damage as a result.

I think this is a given. He pulled out last time, so he'll do this immediately. SCOTUS have rescinded the agreement that agencies could pursue breaches, so they all now have to go through slow and expensive court processes.

It's a policy to help the rich now - the future problems it causes are not important to him. The car regulations he cancelled basically undid most of the progress made from Obama-era regulations.
 
Not sure district, county or unitary councils have standing armies anymore. :)

Those who have studied the fascist rise to power, see among others a common element of a populist movement that grew large and was ultimately mobilized in great number to force the system to their hands. The Weimar republic per the Versailles treaty was only allowed to have 100.000 serving men and they were also supposed to be the country's police. Hitlers "brownshirts" grew to numbers well beyond that, hundreds of thousands, and then Hitler even had a lot of sympathizers among the army. This created the situation (or powervacuum) that while the state had nominal authority over the country, defacto effective control fell more and more with the brownshits and Hitler. By the time the 1936 ellections came around, the Brownshirts pretty much controlled the ellection process with armed millitants "organizing" the ballots.

Mussolini did a similar thing with his great march. Huge angry armed mobs are no joke.

Trump's abillety/tendency to want to be able to mobilize large numbers, regardless if it might consist in part even of armed KKK'rs or rednecks, is very concerning. Anger, hate, vitriol, instabillety, distrust and fear are all usefull to fan the flames so people would pick up their pitchforks and trump knows how to use it.
 
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We would fully expect that trump, when he wins, tries to become an authoritarian leader in the US trough such methods of corrupting law and the law system. And there is plenty of precedent, indication or reason to make that a very legit concern, lest the electorate is a bunch of utter naive fools when it regards to politics.

I think one of his other direct targets will be the electoral system. Gerrymandering has already proved difficult to undo, and it'll just get worse.

It might turn into how competently they manage to do it.
 

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