Edin Dzeko

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franksinatra said:
BosnianDiamond said:
If you want to see what kind of football style would bring out the best out of Edin Dzeko and this ENTIRE Man City squad, you need only watch the direct, fast paced play we saw in the Champions League final. We play like that with Edin Dzeko and we would be champions with Dzeko scoring 25 goals in the league.

This tiki taka football Barcelona had success with initially, has now been completely figured out and is NOT the future of football like some thought.

Not sure that type of play would suit Dzeko either. Both sides at times bypassed the midfield going straight from back to front playing into the strikers feet as the platform to launch attacks. As discussed previously Dzekos link up play is not the greatest, particularly with back to goal.

Do not rule out Tika Taka just yet. There is a lot to be admired in both systems of play. Dortmund were outstanding at the Etihad but similarly to Barca there game was based upon winning the ball back early so in that way the system of play is similar. The difference is Barca control possession better and stretch teams where as Dortmund were full of pace. Depends on the personnel of course which system is suited.

bayern and dortmund have the same playing style. bayern had a bit more edge with robben and ribery.
 
forevermancity said:
franksinatra said:
forevermancity said:
What is the difference between dzeko and cavani by the way?

I don't see that much difference except cavani being slightly more clinical...

It is a fair question and I must admit I have not seen enough of Cavani to comment. Although if the quotes are correct there is no chance of us signing Cavani anyway. As a player Suarez would be ideal for us and the type of game we play.
Suarez, Aguero and tevez would be unreal!

As a team what we are brilliant is dominating posession and interchanging passes around the edge of the box. What we lacked is the player to commit defenders, and to beat a player creeting space for others rather than constantly trying to play through teams. Suarez would be the ideal signing for us or alternatively a player like Hazard.
 
fablue said:
BosnianDiamond said:
If you want to see what kind of football style would bring out the best out of Edin Dzeko and this ENTIRE Man City squad, you need only watch the direct, fast paced play we saw in the Champions League final. We play like that with Edin Dzeko and we would be champions with Dzeko scoring 25 goals in the league.

Bayern won yesterday thanks to a goal by Robben that required amazing dribbling skills. Edin is not so talented when dribbling.

robben is a winger. edin is not.

are gomez and mandzukic good at dribbling ?
 
forevermancity said:
LoveCity said:
Cavani is faster, has better movement, and puts in a big defensive shift (and he can take free kicks if that counts). Cavani is a better player, which isn't a slight to Dzeko who is a good striker, it's just the case and is why you have City, Chelsea and Real Madrid after him right now.
But weren't real after dzeko when he was in Germany?

Edin is a good good player if used correctly...can't help but feel that if he is made to feel wanted and coached in a better manner with a change in style for us...we can utilise what we have instead of spunking a lot of money on another striker

But why have second best when you can have the best? I mean, why do you think the club is so doggedly pursuing Cavani? Vanity? I don't think so. They will have analyzed him carefully and decided he can add to the team, just like Van Persie added to United's team.

Cavani is actually more of a Pellegrini player than Dzeko because he works endlessly for the team, his workrate is second to none and you'll rarely see him have a strop when things aren't going his way. I watched Cavani during his goal drought at Napoli last season and the effort didn't go away, he still busted his arse for the team and was eventually rewarded as the goals returned with something like 11 goals in his last 9 games.

You could say "Why buy X when we have Y?" in any position and the answer would be the same - X is an upgrade and in football there are narrow margins, even a 5% boost in quality can be the difference between 2nd place and 1st place.

Pellegrini may be able to get more out of Dzeko, but he may also be able to get more out of every player at the club - does that mean we should just leave the squad as is and not buy anyone? The club is ambitious and wants better players for each position. And Cavani is better than Dzeko. Just like Fernandinho is better than Barry and Garcia, which is probably why we're after him.
 
Say what you want about Dzeko but he knows how too score and in the style of team to suit him ,he will be a great player.
 
badman said:
fablue said:
BosnianDiamond said:
If you want to see what kind of football style would bring out the best out of Edin Dzeko and this ENTIRE Man City squad, you need only watch the direct, fast paced play we saw in the Champions League final. We play like that with Edin Dzeko and we would be champions with Dzeko scoring 25 goals in the league.

Bayern won yesterday thanks to a goal by Robben that required amazing dribbling skills. Edin is not so talented when dribbling.

robben is a winger. edin is not.

Even worse for Edin...
But don't worry, he'll do well at Napoli.
 
LoveCity said:
forevermancity said:
LoveCity said:
Cavani is faster, has better movement, and puts in a big defensive shift (and he can take free kicks if that counts). Cavani is a better player, which isn't a slight to Dzeko who is a good striker, it's just the case and is why you have City, Chelsea and Real Madrid after him right now.
But weren't real after dzeko when he was in Germany?

Edin is a good good player if used correctly...can't help but feel that if he is made to feel wanted and coached in a better manner with a change in style for us...we can utilise what we have instead of spunking a lot of money on another striker

But why have second best when you can have the best? I mean, why do you think the club is so doggedly pursuing Cavani? Vanity? I don't think so. They will have analyzed him carefully and decided he can add to the team, just like Van Persie added to United's team.

Cavani is actually more of a Pellegrini player than Dzeko because he works endlessly for the team, his workrate is second to none and you'll rarely see him have a strop when things aren't going his way. I watched Cavani during his goal drought at Napoli last season and the effort didn't go away, he still busted his arse for the team and was eventually rewarded as the goals returned with something like 11 goals in his last 9 games.

You could say "Why buy X when we have Y?" in any position and the answer would be the same - X is an upgrade and in football there are narrow margins, even a 5% boost in quality can be the difference between 2nd place and 1st place.

Pellegrini may be able to get more out of Dzeko, but he may also be able to get more out of every player at the club - does that mean we should just leave the squad as is and not buy anyone? The club is ambitious and wants better players for each position. And Cavani is better than Dzeko. Just like Fernandinho is better than Barry and Garcia, which is probably why we're after him.
Very good post mate, your probably more qualified than me as I've only seen cavani a handful of times.

For our team next season, who would do better for us, falcao or cavani in your opinion?
 
franksinatra said:
forevermancity said:
franksinatra said:
It is a fair question and I must admit I have not seen enough of Cavani to comment. Although if the quotes are correct there is no chance of us signing Cavani anyway. As a player Suarez would be ideal for us and the type of game we play.
Suarez, Aguero and tevez would be unreal!

As a team what we are brilliant is dominating posession and interchanging passes around the edge of the box. What we lacked is the player to commit defenders, and to beat a player creeting space for others rather than constantly trying to play through teams. Suarez would be the ideal signing for us or alternatively a player like Hazard.
I'd love that to happen but do you think we need a tall striker to add another dimension?
 
fablue said:
badman said:
fablue said:
Bayern won yesterday thanks to a goal by Robben that required amazing dribbling skills. Edin is not so talented when dribbling.

robben is a winger. edin is not.

Even worse for Edin...
But don't worry, he'll do well at Napoli.

what you mean even worse. edin would do wonders for bayern munich. he's much better than gomez and manzkic..
 
forevermancity said:
LoveCity said:
forevermancity said:
But weren't real after dzeko when he was in Germany?

Edin is a good good player if used correctly...can't help but feel that if he is made to feel wanted and coached in a better manner with a change in style for us...we can utilise what we have instead of spunking a lot of money on another striker

But why have second best when you can have the best? I mean, why do you think the club is so doggedly pursuing Cavani? Vanity? I don't think so. They will have analyzed him carefully and decided he can add to the team, just like Van Persie added to United's team.

Cavani is actually more of a Pellegrini player than Dzeko because he works endlessly for the team, his workrate is second to none and you'll rarely see him have a strop when things aren't going his way. I watched Cavani during his goal drought at Napoli last season and the effort didn't go away, he still busted his arse for the team and was eventually rewarded as the goals returned with something like 11 goals in his last 9 games.

You could say "Why buy X when we have Y?" in any position and the answer would be the same - X is an upgrade and in football there are narrow margins, even a 5% boost in quality can be the difference between 2nd place and 1st place.

Pellegrini may be able to get more out of Dzeko, but he may also be able to get more out of every player at the club - does that mean we should just leave the squad as is and not buy anyone? The club is ambitious and wants better players for each position. And Cavani is better than Dzeko. Just like Fernandinho is better than Barry and Garcia, which is probably why we're after him.
Very good post mate, your probably more qualified than me as I've only seen cavani a handful of times.

For our team next season, who would do better for us, falcao or cavani in your opinion?

For me, Cavani because he offers more characteristics that we don't really have. Falcao is brilliant but there are more similarities to Aguero and Cavani/Aguero seems like a more balanced partnership (on paper at least). If we do miss out on Cavani then keeping Dzeko wouldn't be the worst option. But I would be wary after last season of not adding at least one more goal scorer to the squad (maybe that is Guidetti, but risky...), we can say Pellegrini can do this and do that but he can't command the feet of these players to find the net more... maybe he can instill more confidence that allows them to score more but it's still a gamble.
 
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