Edin Dzeko

[pudge]

i couldn't give a flying monkeys about what you are sure about, and what you aren't sure about.

So much so you felt the need to tell me, I'm eternally grateful.

You were asked how you know Dzeko wanted to leave and are yet to provide any evidence. I can see how I then become the focal point of your frustration...

maybe other posters idolize you, but i don't. you mean nothing to me. you are just another name that i will forget by tomorrow morning.

Wowzers, all you had to say was "I don't know"

 

[BlueTG]

i couldn't give a flying monkeys about what you are sure about, and what you aren't sure about.

So much so you felt the need to tell me, I'm eternally grateful.

You were asked how you know Dzeko wanted to leave and are yet to provide any evidence. I can see how I then become the focal point of your frustration...

maybe other posters idolize you, but i don't. you mean nothing to me. you are just another name that i will forget by tomorrow morning.

You're on a crusade to try and "get to him", it's clear to me and probably everyone else that you are clearly bothered by his existence.

 

[BosnianDiamond]

I'd start him on Sunday. Time for him to start doing his talking on the pitch... but he needs to understand there's more to sitting on the goal line scoring a tap in. Negredo always gets the nod due to his commitment to work with the rest of the team and assist others, we're at a point where Silva isn't always going to be there to put it on a plate.

Bullocks, if you didn't have your blinders on you'll see that Dzeko is constantly looking to play a one-two, lay it off for Aguero or whoever is making the run. This is just complete nonsense about him not working with the rest of the team.

 

[bandwagon]

So much so you felt the need to tell me, I'm eternally grateful.

You were asked how you know Dzeko wanted to leave and are yet to provide any evidence. I can see how I then become the focal point of your frustration...

maybe other posters idolize you, but i don't. you mean nothing to me. you are just another name that i will forget by tomorrow morning.

You're on a crusade to try and "get to him", it's clear to me and probably everyone else that you are clearly bothered by his existence.

how can i be bothered by an irrelevant, insignificant and unimportant person ?

seriously, grow up.

 

[pudge]

maybe other posters idolize you, but i don't. you mean nothing to me. you are just another name that i will forget by tomorrow morning.

You're on a crusade to try and "get to him", it's clear to me and probably everyone else that you are clearly bothered by his existence.

how can i be bothered by an irrelevant, insignificant and unimportant person ?

seriously, grow up.

That's the problem with this thread, as many have pointed out. It's hardly ever about Dzeko but more about posters. If some could get past that maybe there would be reasonable debate, sadly there's seems no sign of it ending.

Exhibit B

 

[BlueTG]

maybe other posters idolize you, but i don't. you mean nothing to me. you are just another name that i will forget by tomorrow morning.

You're on a crusade to try and "get to him", it's clear to me and probably everyone else that you are clearly bothered by his existence.

how can i be bothered by an irrelevant, insignificant and unimportant person ?

seriously, grow up.

You're the one slanging someone who apparently means nothing to you on an internet forum, then drawing the obvious conclusion that he clearly has bothered you.. but I need to grow up. Ok yeah.

 

[bandwagon]

incredible how some people strive to be the centre of all attention. this pudge is really craving it, he's using gifs, images, and every trick in the book to get to spotlight on himself.

newsflash - this thread is about edin dzeko, not "pudge".

 

[pudge]

incredible how some people strive to be the centre of all attention. this pudge is really craving it, he's using gifs, images, and every trick in the book to get to spotlight on himself.

newsflash - this thread is about edin dzeko, not "pudge".

What?

Am I the only one lost here? I addressed you discussing Edin, you turned the topic towards myself lol

 

[NorCalBlue]

so i guess people just ignored caliblue post. typical shit.. pretty much says it right but cuz its against the common circle jerk u chose to ignore

I'll tell you why I ignored him, it was because I've watched Dzeko with my own eyes and made my own mind up without having to trawl through stat after stat arguing one way or another. His overall game this year hasn't been good enough. In very short spells he's shown genuine class and as an out and out goal scorer it would be hard to argue with what he's done so far.
Where I feel yourself and a couple of others are missing the point is the way we play can't afford passengers - that's the crux of it. Negredo brings so much more to our team than Edin and if he can't do the dirty work as well as the goals then he'll be second fiddle for a while yet.
There's no great conspiracy, it's just a simple fact of doing what's best for the team, not for Edin.

I assume you're not a scientist, or we'd still be living in the Dark Ages with that sort of thinking ("I saw with my own eyes that the witch-doctor cured the guy - I don't care what carefully measured data shows").

The point of my post was that this sort of thinking is the problem and it's what makes it impossible to agree, because everyone sees things "with their own eyes" differently. Since it's hard to compare performances by players against different teams, with different team-mates, the Newcastle game was a good opportunity to compare Negredo and Dzeko side-by-side in the same game (in which they played for virtually the same amount of time, with the same team-mates, against the same opposition). I didn't do this to try to prove that Dzeko's a better player than Negredo - it would be idiotic to make that leap from one game - I did it to compare the reality of that one game with people's perception of it. And I think it's pretty clear that it shows a bias against Dzeko. So, if the reality is that Negredo is intrinsically a 20% better player than Dzeko, I'd guess that the average assessment on here would be that he's 40% better. That would show bias, even if the overall assessment that Negredo's better turned out to be true (which is irrelevant to this argument).

You can also compare their stats from the Norwich game in they each played one half, and each scored one goal. It's not quite as good a comparison, because they weren't on at the same time, and games can change a lot from half to half, but it's not bad. In that game Negredo gets a slightly higher rating than Dzeko. They are each better than the other in some categories, and each scored a goal, but the formula used by the whoscored.com website rated Negredo a 7.90 and Dzeko a 7.62. So, by their criteria, Negredo was a bit better in that game.

Based on these more-or-less head-to-head numbers from recent games, I don't think it's unreasonable for Dzeko to wonder why he's played around 200 minutes in the last 7 games, while Negredo's played almost 500 minutes. Yes, I know Negredo scored a hat-trick against CSKA and I was delighted for him and for City, but based on their comparable stats, perhaps Dzeko would have scored in that game too, had he been given the chance. Now he's likely to be side-lined again for the Sunderland game, and have even fewer opportunities to show what he can do.

 

[bandwagon]

I think that last interview was intentional, to let other clubs know he's available and willing to leave in January.

i dont think edin said anything wrong though.

players speakto the media all the time about their ambitions. in this case, dzeko's ambition is to play more games.

negredo speaks to the media about how he wants to spain's number 9 . but that doesn't mean he's taking a swipe at del bosque.