Edin Dzeko

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I think one of the interesting things here is that Pellegrini has clearly identified at least some of the same issues that Mancini did. Specifically Dzeko's inability to sustain effort levels and motivation, along with Hart's complacency causing a tail off in performance.

Its interesting to see if his approach is more successful in getting the best from these players.

My prediction is;

Hart will come back a better player.

Dzeko will go in Jan. (if Jovetic gets fit) or next summer if we need to keep him as cover.

I think Dzeko's contribution in his first 12-18 months should and will be remembered fondly, some players just need to move periodically to motivate themselves.
 
football-fan said:
I needed about first 6 month of Dzekos city career to see what his problem is/was. I didnt want to say that before knowing it can damage his career. Now that he is 95 % off this club i will finally tell you the reason.
But before that i want to tell you something else. Pellegrini did not give him proper chance.
He was very good at pre season, won chinese barclays league trophy something like that, score 2 against Milan ....
Than in FIRST game he was MOTM by your club and league.
At second Cardiff game he scored beautiful opener and was subed by Negredo at 69 min ( ??????????? )
In next game agains Hull he was changed at half time ( again Negredo ?????? )
Than he gave a few games to Negredo.
Than he played tham both against Aston Villa. Dzeko scored that game, Negredo din not and he took Dzeko away at 74 min ( ??????? ).
The only BAD games that Dzeko had was aginst Bayern who played baiscaly 4 6 0 against Citys 4 4 2. Negredo in first 60 min with the same team would not do anything better.

Conclusion Pellegrini was much more unfair to Dzeko than Mancini. If you take Dzekos Bayern incident then Pellegrini is much much much much more unfair. Mancini at least ROTATED 4 top strikers. Pellegrini dont wont do rotate 1 pair of strikers Dzeko/Negredo. Pellegrini is absolutly the one to take all the credits and the blame on Dzeko. Or maybe Pellegrini 90 % and Dzeko 10 %.
I knew that Dzeko interview would happen and i fear for wors things to come.
So you never actually said the reason you knew he wouldn't work out here?

With Cardiff, he was given the hook because he played shite despite scoring, with Hull he could not trap a bag of sand and did not look one bit threatening. Negredo doesn't get the hook as much because he offers much more.

Two managers have arrived at the same conclusion at the same team, it's getting harder to believe its a problem with the management.
 
freewheelinfranklin said:
I think one of the interesting things here is that Pellegrini has clearly identified at least some of the same issues that Mancini did. Specifically Dzeko's inability to sustain effort levels and motivation, along with Hart's complacency causing a tail off in performance.

Its interesting to see if his approach is more successful in getting the best from these players.

My prediction is;

Hart will come back a better player.

Dzeko will go in Jan. (if Jovetic gets fit) or next summer if we need to keep him as cover.

I think Dzeko's contribution in his first 12-18 months should and will be remembered fondly, some players just need to move periodically to motivate themselves.

You are wrong. Such big coach as Pellegrini is he has at least 5 moves/games planed in advance. I for one must say that I did not ONCE said bad things on Mancini in any Bosnian or other forum. But I DID said that i have very bad feeling on Pellegrini/Dzeko and i was unfortunately right.
Pellegrini did some things good don get me wrong.
- Finally playing Nasri in first 11 ( instead od Milner, Navas )
- Use Kolarov ( who was as Dzeko on a verge of leaving ) on 2 positions ( left winger and left defender ) which means more playing time and one less unsettled player.
- You should not wory about Hart. It is just a trick to make an expresion that he have to fight for his place so you can get the most out of him. In few games he will be back and will play for the reast of the season.
- But he did very poor regarding Dzeko. The chance he gave him was minimal or less. He wanted him to be a super sub. Why. Because there is not ONE player in the world who is better than Dzeko and WOULD want to play as 3 striker.
- Jovetic will be the Dzeko 2 scenario ( I can explain later ).

Dzeko did a lot good things in this club. The reason i am writing this is that i want Dzeko and CIty to finish in positive way and the City fans to remember Dzeko as one of this club great players. Dzeko should be sold in JAN for at least four reasons:
1) His price wil decrease he was worth 20 mil. EUR ( before this season ), will be around 15 mil. EUR ( in JAN.), 10 mil. EUR ( in summer ) and 5 or less mil. EUR ( in last 6 months ). + his big wages
2) He will never be good SUB. He did it last year just to prove everybody how good he is ( in spite ). He will NEVER do it this year, because that would mean that he is satisfied with the SUB position.
3) You will already have hard time getting good 3 choice striker. The longer this saga continue the less players will want to come. Not to mention English TOP players, you can forget about those.
4) FIFA fair play

- Bonus question do you really think you know the reason why van Persie did not join City. Do you really think it is Marwood or Mancinis fault, really ??
 
pudge said:
Those pointing the finger at Pellegrini did the same with Mancini I imagine, but there's a common denominator.

If Dzeko finds himself playing second, or third, fiddle under 2 separate, accomplished managers then...

Exactly. Why the hell would Pele even consider splitting Sergio and Beast at the moment.

Dzeko had countless chances and has never managed to cement a place in the team.
 
The source aint the best but........

Borussia Dortmund are ready to test Manchester City's resolve with an £18 million bid for Edin Dzeko in January.

The German giants have maintained a long-standing interest in the Bosnian striker, who has again spoken of his frustrations at a lack of starting opportunities at the Etihad Stadium.

The 27-year-old has less than 18 months remaining on his current contract and there are no plans to offer him an improved deal on his existing £160,000 a week wages.

Dzeko has already held talks with boss Manuel Pellegrini, who has done his best to try and reassure the forward that he does have a role to play this season.

Dortmund, however, are resigned to losing Robert Lewandowski in January, with reports in Germany now stating Bayern Munich are prepared to offer a small token fee, despite the Pole being out of contract next summer.

Dortmund boss Jurgen Klopp is a massive admirer of Dzeko and wants to fill the void immediately, with encouraging signs the player would favour a return to the Bundesliga, where he previously starred for Wolfsburg.

City value Dzeko at closer to £23m but Dortmund can't get close to his current wages and need any fee to reflect that.


<a class="postlink" href="http://www.sportsdirectnews.com/premier-league-news/35441-dortmund-to-bid-18m-for-dzeko.php#.Un5V9c9FDIU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.sportsdirectnews.com/premier ... n5V9c9FDIU</a>
 
MeatnSpudsMCFC said:
1. Player turns out to be not as good as other players. Hence player being lower down the list in pecking order.

2. Player then is peeved at manager for not playing him, player gets worse.

3. Player then approaches chairman, effectively asks the chairman to sack manager.

4. Player now claims new manager is better... despite still being crap and still on the bench.

5. ....


Well, I think the next step is fairly obvious.


You're all welcome...
 
FantasyIreland said:
The source aint the best but........

Borussia Dortmund are ready to test Manchester City's resolve with an £18 million bid for Edin Dzeko in January.

The German giants have maintained a long-standing interest in the Bosnian striker, who has again spoken of his frustrations at a lack of starting opportunities at the Etihad Stadium.

The 27-year-old has less than 18 months remaining on his current contract and there are no plans to offer him an improved deal on his existing £160,000 a week wages.

Dzeko has already held talks with boss Manuel Pellegrini, who has done his best to try and reassure the forward that he does have a role to play this season.

Dortmund, however, are resigned to losing Robert Lewandowski in January, with reports in Germany now stating Bayern Munich are prepared to offer a small token fee, despite the Pole being out of contract next summer.

Dortmund boss Jurgen Klopp is a massive admirer of Dzeko and wants to fill the void immediately, with encouraging signs the player would favour a return to the Bundesliga, where he previously starred for Wolfsburg.

City value Dzeko at closer to £23m but Dortmund can't get close to his current wages and need any fee to reflect that.


<a class="postlink" href="http://www.sportsdirectnews.com/premier-league-news/35441-dortmund-to-bid-18m-for-dzeko.php#.Un5V9c9FDIU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.sportsdirectnews.com/premier ... n5V9c9FDIU</a>
Dzeko would fit in Borussia Dortmund like a glove. It's exactly the type of football Dzeko thrives on. Fast transition, counter attacks. Can't say I am surprised Klopp rates him.

Also 18 mill is twice as much than we got for Tevez, who according to Bluemoon experts was so much better than Dzeko.
 
cookster said:
pudge said:
Those pointing the finger at Pellegrini did the same with Mancini I imagine, but there's a common denominator.

If Dzeko finds himself playing second, or third, fiddle under 2 separate, accomplished managers then...

Exactly. Why the hell would Pele even consider splitting Sergio and Beast at the moment.

Dzeko had countless chances and has never managed to cement a place in the team.

the question is; why should edin settle for a place on the bench ? he spent 2 seasons on the bench. time for him to be released by the club.
 
bandwagon said:
cookster said:
pudge said:
Those pointing the finger at Pellegrini did the same with Mancini I imagine, but there's a common denominator.

If Dzeko finds himself playing second, or third, fiddle under 2 separate, accomplished managers then...

Exactly. Why the hell would Pele even consider splitting Sergio and Beast at the moment.

Dzeko had countless chances and has never managed to cement a place in the team.

the question is; why should edin settle for a place on the bench ? he spent 2 seasons on the bench. time for him to be released by the club.
Club's needs and wants >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Edin's
 
pudge said:
bandwagon said:
cookster said:
Exactly. Why the hell would Pele even consider splitting Sergio and Beast at the moment.

Dzeko had countless chances and has never managed to cement a place in the team.

the question is; why should edin settle for a place on the bench ? he spent 2 seasons on the bench. time for him to be released by the club.
Club's needs and wants >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Edin's
Yes and Edin gave in to club's needs and wants for more than 2 years now. Time for the club to thank Edin for everything he's done and let him go.
 
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