It was ambiguous, you didn't pick up on it. But again, as i've seen time and time again, the debate goes off track on petty discussion on what someone said, what someone didn't say.
TTIP hasn't been passed, but the EU is very keen to ensure it is. Inners defend the EU knowing full well this is the case. I cannot understand why.
Which is what? Are you asking me now to divluge my personal preference, a viewpoint that in my opinion has no basis on the debate regarding the referendum itself? That will come after the nation has decided and we can all debate what direction the UK should take next.There are 7 realistic scenarios for what happens next if the UK pulled out
1. The UK negotiates a treaty that provides a customised relationship with the EU.
2. The UK joins the European Economic Area (EEA)
3. The UK rejoins the European Free Trade Agreement (EFTA)
4. The UK follows the Swiss model
5. The UK negotiates a free trade agreement with the EU
6. The UK seeks a customs union with the EU, along the lines of the customs union between Turkey and the EU
7. The UK does not conclude any trade agreement with the EU and relies on WTO rules to manage trade with it
So which is it?
Which is what? Are you asking me now to divluge my personal preference, a viewpoint that in my opinion has no basis on the debate regarding the referendum itself? That will come after the nation has decided and we can all debate what direction the UK should take next.
It seems to me that what you want to do is drag me into a debate about how my choice would be 'wrong', and once I tell you which scenario i'd prefer to see the UK follow, I can already sense you'll wish to debate on how 'wrong' it is in order to stifle the debate; not because it is in any way illogical or unrealistic, but because you yourself personally disagree with that action. All you need to know is that my preferred action for this country to undertake in the wake of an exit from the EU may nor may not be one you have listed. My choice is my choice and you don't need to know it unless you wish to give your own choice first, given that you're placed in the scenario that the leave campaign actually succeeded, so that I can have an understanding as to the type of debate we might have. In other words, if you yourself do not agree with any of these scenarios you listed or how they could work to the UK's benefit, it's pointless asking me to choose one of them, isn't it.
An expected answer from you. Aggressive, insulting, a tone of ridicule. You didn't get the response you wanted so you go 'on the attack'. It tends to be your method of 'engaging' with posters on here.Amazing.
Well, we have had a lot "info" and comment about how staying in is not a good idea as the EU is a tinpot dictatorship that tramples the UK underfoot so i thought ok, lets ask an outer what would happen next. There are 7 different scenarios and i thought it would be interesting to see which would be the one (as clearly all 7 cannot be chosen) pursued. I wanted to know what was on offer or even which were considered more suitable than another before i decide to stay or go.
Instead there is a paranoid rant about how i am trying to catch you out.
Seriously, is that it? Is that the answer. You have melted on the first question. I really honestly could not give a fuck what your private intentions are. You like me are just one vote. It would have been at least reasonably interesting to see at least which line of thought is likely but no. Seems you are happy to chip away but cannot put up as you feel it would just be stifling the debate. it IS a debate and ALL angles are covered.
So, if i am to vote out what would line of thinking would i be getting myself into if the outers won?
An expected answer from you. Aggressive, insulting, a tone of ridicule. It tends to be your method of 'engaging' with posters on here.
I tend not to engage with someone so obviously close minded.
More 'won't' than don't or can't.So i ask what next, you dont (or cant) answer and its me who is closed minded. Lol.
I asked a perfectly good question, you came back with a defensive and paranoid answer.
I will ask a third time, which course of action do you think would be likely if the outers won?
More 'won't' that don't or can't.
I asked you the same question, and yet i'm still waiting for your response. Divulge me.
As stated it is pointless asking at this point in time as we don't know the EU's response to an exit. I have my preferred scenario, but that could easily change given the reaction or stubborness of the EU.
Just under £10Million of taxpayer money being spent on government propaganda being sent out to us asking us to vote to stay in.
Thought we where skint? Why is that money not being spent on services?
That said, not a bad day to try and deflect from the growing anger with our PM and the rest over their offshore trust funds is it by throwing this news out?
What on earth are you blabbering about? Gardens? Products? ITK?So, to use an analogy, you have been telling me my back garden is not green enough, your back garden is greener but i cannot see your back garden. You tell me repeatedly that mine is shit but i am generally happy with it. I ask you then, ok, i know there are 7 products that could make my back garden better i doubt it but i am listening, so i ask you. You now say you wont tell me as you are not sure and things could change. You see why i am suspicious. You sound like an ITK upstairs that tells me he knows what is happening but you know, things change and it could be anything.
If i vote out, want to know exactly what is coming next.