EU referendum

[CityStu]

When a leader like that resigns it is most likely to show they are out of step with their membership and realise it or they want to do something incompatible with leading such an organisation. Any other element is possible too but that's the most likely

It rubbishes scaremongering in the same way the prime minister supporting in rubbises out scaremongering

I read that he was suspended before he resigned...

 

[Ancient Citizen]

When a leader like that resigns it is most likely to show they are out of step with their membership and realise it or they want to do something incompatible with leading such an organisation. Any other element is possible too but that's the most likely

It rubbishes scaremongering in the same way the prime minister supporting in rubbises out scaremongering

Lol, some straw clutching and outrageous supposition there, matey.
Most likely you've already decided the scenario that fits your narrative, so contented yourself with made up reasoning as a comfort blanket.
He's only just resigned, so I'd prefer to let time take it's course until we actually do know the facts.

 

[SWP's back]

Not if the majority of the country don't agree which is the same problem with the European Parliament

Depends if you consider yourself British or European doesn't it?

Why not just have a World Government in that case?

 

[SWP's back]

Lol, some straw clutching and outrageous supposition there, matey.
Most likely you've already decided the scenario that fits your narrative, so contented yourself with made up reasoning as a comfort blanket.
He's only just resigned, so I'd prefer to let time take it's course until we actually do know the facts.

Your first paragraph sums him up on this thread.

 

[EalingBlue2]

Depends if you consider yourself British or European doesn't it?

Why not just have a World Government in that case?

The ultimate end goal of capitalism or socialism, either a perfect boundary free international market or the global unity of workers.

I think we will end up there it's inevitable, today my money is more on it being a. Capitalist end state mores the pity.

I have always thought myself both Manc, British and European , don't see why anyone can't be all of them

 

[YPhrunts]

As a matter of interest why is Europe deciding on this for Britain totalitarian but Britain deciding it for the north west democracy. Both is a arbitraty large area making a decision for a smaller area.

The EU setting policy for the UK is ultimately no different to the UK setting policy for Wales or Wales setting policy for Gwynedd.

the EU is not totalitarian anymore than the UK is, it has flaws as does the British government, it has strengths as does the British government.

Trying to paint it as totalitarian or like last night (I know not you) as akin to naziism doesn't show any confidence in the argument or strategy behind the out canpaign.

Have we ever instructed the Welsh Assembly that Wales must take in so many English and give them jobs? Or the Scottish or the Irish for that matter.

 

[EalingBlue2]

Lol, some straw clutching and outrageous supposition there, matey.
Most likely you've already decided the scenario that fits your narrative, so contented yourself with made up reasoning as a comfort blanket.
He's only just resigned, so I'd prefer to let time take it's course until we actually do know the facts.

So someone who runs one group who agrees with you and resigns and it is deeply significant. Someone else who runs a group supports the opposite side and they are just supporting a vested interest.

I don't have a clue why he resigned, neither do you, you drew a conclusion I drew an alternate one. i think your conclusion that it was because of prime ministerial pressure is a much longer now than my more simple regular solution.

 

[SWP's back]

The ultimate end goal of capitalism or socialism, either a perfect boundary free international market or the global unity of workers.

I think we will end up there it's inevitable, today my money is more on it being a. Capitalist end state mores the pity.

I have always thought myself both Manc, British and European , don't see why anyone can't be all of them

Which is why you want to vote in whereas I understand why some people don't want to see British sovereignty increasingly dimished.

 

[EalingBlue2]

Have we ever instructed the Welsh Assembly that Wales must take in so many English and give them jobs? Or the Scottish or the Irish for that matter.

I thought this was about the placement of those outside the EU not compulsory intake of the French so it's a different issue. As to where people go in the uk if they are refugees I don't know the answer to that.

 

[EalingBlue2]

Which is why you want to vote in whereas I understand why some people don't want to see British sovereignty increasingly dimished.

I understand a chunk of the out vote and I think it comes from the right motives even if it is risky. What I don't understand it agree with is the crap likening it to totalitarianism and naziism