Everton Thread - 2023/24

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super_city_si said:
Yes you would think so if it was a serious governing body that had strict rules and regulations with punishment already defined. These clueless twats are clearly making it up as they go along.
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There’ll always be differing scales of mitigation to be considered, so whilst having defined tariffs would be beneficial, it’d be the same as any judicial system insomuch as different outcomes would still exist for the same monetary breaches, pendent on why and how the breach occurred.
 
manimanc said:
Is that what has really been said?

God, social media really is the pretend world I always thought it was.

Average age on there must be at least 20 and under.
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Any time FFP comes up, they're like pigs in shit. "What about City?" is all anyone asks despite Everton and Forest actually being convicted and admitted cheats.
 
The problem with point deductions is that the number of points if just literally plucked out of thin air.

You can just imagine the initial conversation.

“So they are guilty, what penalty shall we give them?”

“Erm don’t know what do you think?”

“Well it has to be points I think. Shall we say erm 10 to start with as they are bound to appeal and it gives us a bit of wriggle room”

“Yeah ok. Seems fair and let’s face it no way are they going down this season with those 3 teams at the bottom”

Today.

“I knew they would appeal and the general feeling is they were hard done to, cos City have 115 charges don’t you know and they only had one”

“Yeah and Luton are doing better then expected aren’t they”

“Yep and let’s face it, Everton are shite so will be lucky to get 10 more points”

“Shall we reduce it to say 6 then to give them a bit of breathing space, keep everyone happy and still give ourselves lots of room to hammer City”

“Seems fair”
 
Gordyola said:
Playing devil's advocate
By overspending against the FSR they maintained their PL status which, meant the fans benefited by watching PL football, how else would they have seen the PL , European and World Champions? Whereas other clubs fans had to endure Championship football and miss out on seeing "the best team in the land and all the world" because their clubs abided by the rules
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playing devil's advocate, they could have maintained being small not tried to progress by building a new bigger stadium and they would have passed the test then.
 
We admitted the charge, the argument was always that the punishment was way over the top.

No idea what this means for the second breach, however one of the commissions points was about using the EFL as they were the closest guidelines available. If thats the case, the EFL doesnt have double jeopardy. Two of our big overspend years have already been punished in the 6 points. Be interesting to see what happens next.

Also, a lot of our ITK's have said Forests overspend was a lot more than our £19.5m and there were no off field factors so they maybe hit hard.
 
BlueLou82 said:
We admitted the charge, the argument was always that the punishment was way over the top.

No idea what this means for the second breach, however one of the commissions points was about using the EFL as they were the closest guidelines available. If thats the case, the EFL doesnt have double jeopardy. Two of our big overspend years have already been punished in the 6 points. Be interesting to see what happens next.

Also, a lot of our ITK's have said Forests overspend was a lot more than our £19.5m and there were no off field factors so they maybe hit hard.
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the punishment is still way over the top, no doubt about it
 
hertsblue said:
And how they failed FFP but got a joke token fine compared to Evertons point deduction.
As others have said, making it up as they go
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I think that was Uefa FFP and a small fine

I think they could be in trouble very soon with the Premier League FFP because they have failed to break even and made losses over the benchmark over 3 years and also their debt has grown
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
If it’s for the same thing, they have to get the same punishment.
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Do we know if it's the same sort of thing?
I heard it's more about a sponsorship fudging and inflated the deal ? something in my head says it was over £200 million and they used the money on new players when they should have not been spending
 
ancoats said:
Do we know if it's the same sort of thing?
I heard it's more about a sponsorship fudging and inflated the deal ? something in my head says it was over £200 million and they used the money on new players when they should have not been spending
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The breach will be the same, as in they’ve lost more than £105m in the 3 year rolling period.

Why that happened might be different though, but it seems unlikely to be that different as they were still disputing the original breach well into this financial year.
 
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