Hughes OUT

[djapan_serbia_mcfc]

Guus Hiddink my favorite!!!

 

[EalingBlue2]

Anyway cheer up lads life is not all bad.

30c here today not a cloud in the sky, a swim this morning, ice cold beer and a barbecue for lunch and a game of golf with another ex pat blue this pm. So we drew? That's life, and I have spent enough of today discussing it already.

 

[Maineblue]

Anyway cheer up lads life is not all bad.

30c here today not a cloud in the sky, a swim this morning, ice cold beer and a barbecue for lunch and a game of golf with another ex pat blue this pm. So we drew? That's life, and I have spent enough of today discussing it already.

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[mb1977]

Ive always questioned the tactics of hughes and whether hes good enough to attract the right sort of player and to get the best out of them when they get here-
I just think there are some factors we should all consider whilst some are calling for his head.

He has been a part of the set-up for a relatively short period of time, add into the mix the pressure that he holds the unprecendented position of heading up the newly acclaimed richest club in the world with a squad that is yet to have even half a season under its belt. He has the weight of the worlds medias eyes upon him waiting, with knives out after every single result and press trying to cook up shite about his prized players going to Barcelona, or wherever during every press conference.
The huge advantage is that he's worked through these obstacles (albeit sometimes with more grace then other times) he has undoubtabley improved our squad- though its arguable how difficult it is not to with all the money- and ok, they are not sweeping the floor with opponents week in week out but there are glimpses of teams capable of playing football to a level equal to that of the top four.
What we need more than anything right now is patience and to remember that this is a long term thing- chucking someone out now whos committed himself to the long haul will only set us back 12 months -what happens when a new managers honeymoon period is over should he go too- should we give every name manager a chance to come and play fantasy football with the money. No- we need to get the fuck off the managers back- let him work through it, learn how to grow into the job and learn how to MANAGE all the pressures that come with it. Were you faultless at your job in the first 6 - 12 months of it, or did it take a while to start getting a feel for it- did you make mistakes along the way, which in hindsight youd do differently now?
Time will tell if Hughes is right, if hes got the skills to move us on as a team to where our riches could and should take us- but that time should be over a couple of seasons, a couple of final league positions and cup runs- not a ridiculous run of results mid-season.

No doubt theres still a lot of work to do yet at City, but in my opinion us blues can choose to jump on the backs of the blokes trying to do the jobs -like every other media idiot whos got it in for us- or we can help the club by supporting them. I know which side I stand.

 

[Benarbia]

Tactics seem negative, doesn't seem to be able to motivate the players, can't see what he's still doing here to be honest

 

[niall_mcfc]

Been saying it all season long that i would Hiddink as our new manager espicially with Russia not reaching the world cup. Think now is the right time to get rid, bring Hiddink in and give him a month with the current players and then he can assess them and find the players he wants to improve the squad which atm is 3 or 4 defenders, a creative midfielder and a world class striker

 

[BobKowalski]

"Hughes... could be worse." Admittedly not the greatest marketing slogan ever, but work with me here.

Its not the most inspiring rallying cry but has the virtue of being honest...and it made me laugh :)

 

[paul powers mustache]

I'm a season ticket holder who goes to most of the away games,i'm just stating this because i think i'm reasonably well positioned to make valuation about how we're progressing as a club. This is the first time i've ever voiced my opinion on one of these sites, I'm just replying to what the city fan stated about how we could have had any manager out there for the second half and he wouldn't have been able to do anything with this team, It's a fair comment but all this mess didn't really start today at 1600, It all began last August when Hughes took over, we've played well four times in the league this season, first half against the rags we played well against villa for almost a whole half also Arsenal and Liverpool And this isn't down to tactical genius on the managers behalf, but in my humble opinion down to two factors 1, The quality we've ot out on the pitch. 2,the opposition forcing us to play a style that suits gifted players.

I looked at the team today and it wouldn't have mattered who we could have playing up front or in the middle of the park come the January window. The system we were playing today isn't suited to top four club from any league or division in the world. It's designed to accommodate the style of play for a middle to bottom to third club. Teams cautious in their lack of own ability but not a club confident in it's ability to progress. We pack the midfield and play a really congested configuration at the back, Nigel practically plays as a fifth defender, and in the end our pro active players end up taking the ball off our back four,five so it becomes really difficult for our creative midfielders to weave their magic and mega simple for the opposition to keep the ball in the middle of the park. The only time we play well is when we play against quality and they force us to open up, that then gives barry , Ireland and our other WORLD class players the space they need to be creative.

Hughes is a pragmatist and sticks to systems and formulas he knows will work,

 

[SebastianBlue]

Dear Chairman
Hello there, haven't had the pleasure of meeting you yet.

Just wanted to say what a fabulous job Mark Hughes is doing. Sixth you said and by golly Hughes has got the team playing at that level. Yes, yes, of course we could quibble about a result or two or three... well technically seven, but the point is the team is not losing and is only one of a handful of clubs in the entire five tiers of English Football that have only lost one game so far this season in the league.

I know you hear the rumblings of some of the fans concerning the in game tactics and substitutions but really what do they know? As Hughes insinuated last season when defending his playing of Vassell they really are just trouble causers. I mean in the grand scheme of things, who can't see the value of playing a virtual man down? Builds character that does.

This has nothing to do, nothing to do, with the potential unemployment of a Spaniard in Liverpool. It's a complete coincidence that my public support of the Manager happens to coincide with the slow realization from the Anfield faithful that Benitez won with Houllier's team, has frittered away 200 million and the inevitable job search that will ensue. Honest... complete coincidence.

Real Madrid hasn't figured that out either, so lets all giggle when they introduce their new manager next summer. In the meantime City will go from strength to strength with an invigorating sixth place in the Premier League. It's the club's highest position ever.

And you know, City might still win something this year. We seem to have the measure of Arsenal when we play them at home, so who knows maybe this year the Liquid Cup has our name on it. What do you say, top 4 next year?

"Hughes... could be worse." Admittedly not the greatest marketing slogan ever, but work with me here.


CTID

Either you're Wallace or put some quotes on that mate. Either way I liked it the first time I read it on soccernet and I still do the second go round.

 

[Bluestones]

Get rid ....soonest. He would be out of his depth at Rhyl.

 

[BurnCK]

Fortunately our owners are shrewd, astute business men that have a business plan and long term aspirations for City. Unlike a lot of our fans they are not petulant, spoilt near-sighted, narrow minded, dummy spitters who are rewarding our benifactors and their wishes, ie to back the Manager, with great ingratitude an intolerance.

Shrewd business men ? Well in that case they are not going to allow a poor manager to drive their business investment into the ground....

 

[Slack]

I knew its News of the world, But even they don't give Sparky too' long hehe, Hinting it could be Mancini or Hiddink Replacing Him.

.......

THIS IS SIMPLE NOW, MARK HUGHES IS RUINING THIS CLUB, AND HE NEEDS TO BE SACKED.
IF HE ISN'T SACKED BY MONDAY I WILL BE VERY DISAPOINTED.

 

[barnsley blue]

cannot agree more, apart from 1 or 2 that take a pride in the shirt the rest are a bunch of overpaid lazy twats that believe they're better than what they are.how can hughes watch 200 million pounds of talent draw with hull,burnley etc if they don't perform i wouldn't pay em, then watch em run

 

[reznikov]

low post count, regular reader, 100% home game, 50% away game attendee before anyone goes on.

What has Mark Hughes had?

He has been give carte blanche to appoint his own staff in every position in the whole club. Re Jim Cassell: without wanting to be overly ITK Jim was happy to be moved aside, he is an old man and wants to retire, however he was having major disagreements with Hughes so a large paycheck shut him up and moved him on. Jim shouldn't be blamed in any way for doing this, he has given years of his life to City and a chance to look after his family for ever can not be dismissed.

Hughes. He has spent an inordinate amount of money improving Carrington. Yeah Carrington and the training may be more professional. But why the fcuk is this though a sign of Hughes' competence? Any World Class manager would have improved the facilities. nb, Sven began the improvements anyway until the Thai madman pulled the rug. And the Sven/Leisure camp accusation may have been true, yet really, with worse players and lax training, we were a better team than now imo.

Hughes has given the money to buy who he wants. I do think the majority of Hughes' singings has been successful in improving the quality of footballer we had in the squad. However with the chance he has had he has failed miserably imo. The players we have bought (toure, ade, tevez, swp, barry, bridge, robi, de jong, lescott) by and large are very good, top 4 premiership footballers, yet they are not playing as such. If they are top 4 quality then why are they not performing? Leadership? Tactics? Belief? Doesn't that come from the manager?

We have all the finance, fans, ground, reputation, players(almost) etc to be a world renowned winning team yet we are persisting with a manager that has not won anything. A 7th place finish with blackburn is his highlight.

Fwiw i do not believe Jose or Hiddink will come.

Removing Hughes mid-season is a big problem though as he has installed many of his own people in positions in the club. For that I do not blame him, yet I blame the board for allowing someone (unproven) to gain such an authority over a club with the undoubted potential of ours.

Imo if things do not improve, ie we continue with poor disjointed performances, lack of fight, lack of belief, we should offer someone, Klinsmann, Mancini, a 6 month contract and say, buy no players, prove yourself as a good man manager, show improvement in the style of football, and then you have the chance to make your name. This would only be in the instance of a top 4 finish being out of reach, which could be soon unfortunately :(

Who knows what is gonna happen? I pray to god we improve but I just see a side and a squad that lacks in belief. A manager that splits the fans in half is not good, everyone can agree on that, but Hughes is running out of time.

For all the people who want to keep hughes, and believe all hughes outers to be impatient children demanding the title now, don't be so daft. We expect progress. We expect that if a manager has been given a clean slate to build his own team, then it should be doing better than 7 points from 21. Hughes specifically bought English based players so the would 'hit the ground running'. They did, and now they have stopped. Why? Someone who wants Hughes to stay, please say why a group of good premiership players are getting more disorganized and lost with every game?
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This is not a post professing to know all the answers, just needed to get it off my chest ;)

night x

 

[Blue Hefner]

I am a 'Hughes out' man. The list of his short comings are too long for me to even think about nevermind bother to write them. So let us talk about his talents, by us I mean someone else 'cos i cant think of any!

 

[kp789]

Get Hiddink in

 

[skybluekings]

I am a 'Hughes out' man. The list of his short comings are too long for me to even think about nevermind bother to write them. So let us talk about his talents, by us I mean someone else 'cos i cant think of any!

He played for Barcelona :)

 

[Rosler81]

 

[Pam]

Get rid ....soonest. He would be out of his depth at Rhyl.

lol.

 

[m27]

low post count, regular reader, 100% home game, 50% away game attendee before anyone goes on.

What has Mark Hughes had?

He has been give carte blanche to appoint his own staff in every position in the whole club. Re Jim Cassell: without wanting to be overly ITK Jim was happy to be moved aside, he is an old man and wants to retire, however he was having major disagreements with Hughes so a large paycheck shut him up and moved him on. Jim shouldn't be blamed in any way for doing this, he has given years of his life to City and a chance to look after his family for ever can not be dismissed.

Hughes. He has spent an inordinate amount of money improving Carrington. Yeah Carrington and the training may be more professional. But why the fcuk is this though a sign of Hughes' competence? Any World Class manager would have improved the facilities. nb, Sven began the improvements anyway until the Thai madman pulled the rug. And the Sven/Leisure camp accusation may have been true, yet really, with worse players and lax training, we were a better team than now imo.

Hughes has given the money to buy who he wants. I do think the majority of Hughes' singings has been successful in improving the quality of footballer we had in the squad. However with the chance he has had he has failed miserably imo. The players we have bought (toure, ade, tevez, swp, barry, bridge, robi, de jong, lescott) by and large are very good, top 4 premiership footballers, yet they are not playing as such. If they are top 4 quality then why are they not performing? Leadership? Tactics? Belief? Doesn't that come from the manager?

We have all the finance, fans, ground, reputation, players(almost) etc to be a world renowned winning team yet we are persisting with a manager that has not won anything. A 7th place finish with blackburn is his highlight.

Fwiw i do not believe Jose or Hiddink will come.

Removing Hughes mid-season is a big problem though as he has installed many of his own people in positions in the club. For that I do not blame him, yet I blame the board for allowing someone (unproven) to gain such an authority over a club with the undoubted potential of ours.

Imo if things do not improve, ie we continue with poor disjointed performances, lack of fight, lack of belief, we should offer someone, Klinsmann, Mancini, a 6 month contract and say, buy no players, prove yourself as a good man manager, show improvement in the style of football, and then you have the chance to make your name. This would only be in the instance of a top 4 finish being out of reach, which could be soon unfortunately :(

Who knows what is gonna happen? I pray to god we improve but I just see a side and a squad that lacks in belief. A manager that splits the fans in half is not good, everyone can agree on that, but Hughes is running out of time.

For all the people who want to keep hughes, and believe all hughes outers to be impatient children demanding the title now, don't be so daft. We expect progress. We expect that if a manager has been given a clean slate to build his own team, then it should be doing better than 7 points from 21. Hughes specifically bought English based players so the would 'hit the ground running'. They did, and now they have stopped. Why? Someone who wants Hughes to stay, please say why a group of good premiership players are getting more disorganized and lost with every game?
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.
.
.
This is not a post professing to know all the answers, just needed to get it off my chest ;)

night x

Excellent stuff. Please post more often.