Insanity work-out

FantasyIreland said:
Tragic meat van guy said:
Oops, thats me told ;-)

Not at all mate,it's all a learning process.....

You've made a very decent contribution to this thread.

I use Nutrisport 90 plus(chocolate) and have done for many years,it works out about £55 for 5kg(vat recently added..... sent price through roof!),i have never had a problem and seen some good results with the product.

Bulksupplementsdirect are also another company i trust and have used since they began,they do a fantastic range of supplements,this link is one of their best products.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bulksupplementsdirect.co.uk/khxc/bulk-casein-and-whey-complete.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bulksupplementsdirect.co.uk/ ... plete.html</a>

I have a referall code of BSD83 which will get you 5% off your first order if you wish to try them.....

Im going to start the insanity workout next week, would you reccomend i use the suppliments you listed above?
Im going to use it to replace one of the five meals a day, maybe 2 because its hard to find time to prepare more than 3 meals with work and stuff
 
FantasyIreland said:
Tragic meat van guy said:
Oops, thats me told ;-)

Not at all mate,it's all a learning process.....

You've made a very decent contribution to this thread.

I use Nutrisport 90 plus(chocolate) and have done for many years,it works out about £55 for 5kg(vat recently added..... sent price through roof!),i have never had a problem and seen some good results with the product.

Bulksupplementsdirect are also another company i trust and have used since they began,they do a fantastic range of supplements,this link is one of their best products.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bulksupplementsdirect.co.uk/khxc/bulk-casein-and-whey-complete.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bulksupplementsdirect.co.uk/ ... plete.html</a>

I have a referall code of BSD83 which will get you 5% off your first order if you wish to try them.....

According to their instructions they suggest 3-4 shakes a day with that one, is that correct?
 
I dont use as often as that,other than missing out on certain macronutrients/vits/minerals/antioxidats etc from 'real' food,it will do no harm if you do but they are trying to sell the stuff lol......

I normally have one at breakfast and as a 'meal replacement' with some almonds during the day.

After a workout with a banana is also a good choice.<br /><br />-- 17 Oct 2012 14:54 --<br /><br />A good rule of thumb if you are training hard is to consume approx 1g of protein per lb of bodyweight per day.

The average meal sitting being approx 30g,anywhere between 5 and 8 times a day.Obviously the bigger you are and the harder you train(in order to recover) the more you will require.
 
One thing that is confusing me is when to eat and when to have te protein shake.

Il be most likely doing my workout around 6-7, so should i be eating me tea after this!? Ive heard a protein shake is good after a workout, so should i be drinking one of them then eating my tea?? Im not sure how to balance it out.

Im thinking 5 meals a day, with the insanity workout at around 6pm-7pm that day. Just dont know how to space my meals/protein shakes around that.

Any tips from those who have done it? Like ive said earlier, im useless at this stuff! Never done it before
 
FantasyIreland said:
Tragic meat van guy said:
Oops, thats me told ;-)

Not at all mate,it's all a learning process.....

You've made a very decent contribution to this thread.

I use Nutrisport 90 plus(chocolate) and have done for many years,it works out about £55 for 5kg(vat recently added..... sent price through roof!),i have never had a problem and seen some good results with the product.

Bulksupplementsdirect are also another company i trust and have used since they began,they do a fantastic range of supplements,this link is one of their best products.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bulksupplementsdirect.co.uk/khxc/bulk-casein-and-whey-complete.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bulksupplementsdirect.co.uk/ ... plete.html</a>

I have a referall code of BSD83 which will get you 5% off your first order if you wish to try them.....

Nutrisport90+ looks sound and is loads cheaper! cheers fella
 
CTID1988 said:
One thing that is confusing me is when to eat and when to have te protein shake.

Il be most likely doing my workout around 6-7, so should i be eating me tea after this!? Ive heard a protein shake is good after a workout, so should i be drinking one of them then eating my tea?? Im not sure how to balance it out.

Im thinking 5 meals a day, with the insanity workout at around 6pm-7pm that day. Just dont know how to space my meals/protein shakes around that.

Any tips from those who have done it? Like ive said earlier, im useless at this stuff! Never done it before

Again this is just what I do:

meal 1, 8.00am

Meal 2, 11am

Meal 3, 2pm

Meal 4, 5pm

6:30pm, workout then nesquick chocolate shake with milk after. (During insanity they are always banging on about results and recovery formula after a workout. Again this I just what I have been told but nesquick has a ration of 4 parts carb to 1 part protein, which is the same as the result and recovery formula but cost £2 a tub instead of £30. Apparently the body wants the carbs from sugars after the workout and a small amount of protein can 'piggyback' into the muscles with it, helping them recover. Plus its cheap. Fuck knows if this is true but me and the mrs have remained injury and muscle pain free whilst doing insanity, except for the first 3 days during which you will feel like you have been run over)

After workout and nesquick, jump in shower.

8pm, meal 5.
 
Tragic meat van guy said:
CTID1988 said:
One thing that is confusing me is when to eat and when to have te protein shake.

Il be most likely doing my workout around 6-7, so should i be eating me tea after this!? Ive heard a protein shake is good after a workout, so should i be drinking one of them then eating my tea?? Im not sure how to balance it out.

Im thinking 5 meals a day, with the insanity workout at around 6pm-7pm that day. Just dont know how to space my meals/protein shakes around that.

Any tips from those who have done it? Like ive said earlier, im useless at this stuff! Never done it before

Again this is just what I do:

meal 1, 8.00am

Meal 2, 11am

Meal 3, 2pm

Meal 4, 5pm

6:30pm, workout then nesquick chocolate shake with milk after. (During insanity they are always banging on about results and recovery formula after a workout. Again this I just what I have been told but nesquick has a ration of 4 parts carb to 1 part protein, which is the same as the result and recovery formula but cost £2 a tub instead of £30. Apparently the body wants the carbs from sugars after the workout and a small amount of protein can 'piggyback' into the muscles with it, helping them recover. Plus its cheap. Fuck knows if this is true but me and the mrs have remained injury and muscle pain free whilst doing insanity, except for the first 3 days during which you will feel like you have been run over)

After workout and nesquick, jump in shower.

8pm, meal 5.

I have a couple of variations on that...

If I'm working from home I'll do...
Breakfast - 730ish
Snack - 1030
Workout -1130
Lunch - straight after (usually something high protein like scrambled eggs or tuna)
Snack - 3pm
Tea - 6ish

If I'm working out in the evening, I do exactly the same but do the workout about 8, though sometimes as late as 11 depending on what I'm doing, then will usually have a snack after the workout - banana or yoghurt typically
 
philinho said:
Tragic meat van guy said:
CTID1988 said:
One thing that is confusing me is when to eat and when to have te protein shake.

Il be most likely doing my workout around 6-7, so should i be eating me tea after this!? Ive heard a protein shake is good after a workout, so should i be drinking one of them then eating my tea?? Im not sure how to balance it out.

Im thinking 5 meals a day, with the insanity workout at around 6pm-7pm that day. Just dont know how to space my meals/protein shakes around that.

Any tips from those who have done it? Like ive said earlier, im useless at this stuff! Never done it before

Again this is just what I do:

meal 1, 8.00am

Meal 2, 11am

Meal 3, 2pm

Meal 4, 5pm

6:30pm, workout then nesquick chocolate shake with milk after. (During insanity they are always banging on about results and recovery formula after a workout. Again this I just what I have been told but nesquick has a ration of 4 parts carb to 1 part protein, which is the same as the result and recovery formula but cost £2 a tub instead of £30. Apparently the body wants the carbs from sugars after the workout and a small amount of protein can 'piggyback' into the muscles with it, helping them recover. Plus its cheap. Fuck knows if this is true but me and the mrs have remained injury and muscle pain free whilst doing insanity, except for the first 3 days during which you will feel like you have been run over)

After workout and nesquick, jump in shower.

8pm, meal 5.

I have a couple of variations on that...

If I'm working from home I'll do...
Breakfast - 730ish
Snack - 1030
Workout -1130
Lunch - straight after (usually something high protein like scrambled eggs or tuna)
Snack - 3pm
Tea - 6ish

If I'm working out in the evening, I do exactly the same but do the workout about 8, though sometimes as late as 11 depending on what I'm doing, then will usually have a snack after the workout - banana or yoghurt typically

I was thinking something like this but do my workout at 6 and have my tea straight after, is it ok to have a protein shake aswel as your tea?
 
CTID1988 said:
philinho said:
Tragic meat van guy said:
Again this is just what I do:

meal 1, 8.00am

Meal 2, 11am

Meal 3, 2pm

Meal 4, 5pm

6:30pm, workout then nesquick chocolate shake with milk after. (During insanity they are always banging on about results and recovery formula after a workout. Again this I just what I have been told but nesquick has a ration of 4 parts carb to 1 part protein, which is the same as the result and recovery formula but cost £2 a tub instead of £30. Apparently the body wants the carbs from sugars after the workout and a small amount of protein can 'piggyback' into the muscles with it, helping them recover. Plus its cheap. Fuck knows if this is true but me and the mrs have remained injury and muscle pain free whilst doing insanity, except for the first 3 days during which you will feel like you have been run over)

After workout and nesquick, jump in shower.

8pm, meal 5.

I have a couple of variations on that...

If I'm working from home I'll do...
Breakfast - 730ish
Snack - 1030
Workout -1130
Lunch - straight after (usually something high protein like scrambled eggs or tuna)
Snack - 3pm
Tea - 6ish

If I'm working out in the evening, I do exactly the same but do the workout about 8, though sometimes as late as 11 depending on what I'm doing, then will usually have a snack after the workout - banana or yoghurt typically

I was thinking something like this but do my workout at 6 and have my tea straight after, is it ok to have a protein shake aswel as your tea?

Dunno mate, but I don't see why not. I've noticed that im able to work harder if I eat about an hour before the workout, so I wouldn't leave 3 hours if I were you...
 
Finally got this and gonna start it tomorrow :s had a little look at the first 5mins or so of the fitness test and it looks ok but i know its gonna be tough.

I like the calender they give you, so you can print it out so you know where your up to. Any advise for me from you guys that have already got stuck into this?
 
mark ( blue army ) said:
Finally got this and gonna start it tomorrow :s had a little look at the first 5mins or so of the fitness test and it looks ok but i know its gonna be tough.

I like the calender they give you, so you can print it out so you know where your up to. Any advise for me from you guys that have already got stuck into this?

Before you start watch the 'dig deeper' dvd, Literally just before you start, even if you have seen it before, they got through the form for the basic exercises slowly. use this to have a quick practice

Form is everything.

Have a sweat towel ready.

The first 3 days are tough (especially day 2) STICK WITH IT. you will get better, its frustrating learning the exercises in the beginning and couple this with the fact that you are blowing out of your arse, the start of month 2 is equally hard, its easy the become un-motivated. You WILL get through it and you will start to enjoy pushing yourself harder and harder (trust me,,,,,,unless i'm just a bit weird)

Good luck blue.

Keep us posted.
 
CTID1988 said:
I was thinking something like this but do my workout at 6 and have my tea straight after, is it ok to have a protein shake aswel as your tea?

As long as your tea consists of enough protein and carbs there would be no point in also having a shake - simply unnecessary excess calories that will either end up in the pan or around your waist......
 
FantasyIreland said:
CTID1988 said:
I was thinking something like this but do my workout at 6 and have my tea straight after, is it ok to have a protein shake aswel as your tea?

As long as your tea consists of enough protein and carbs there would be no point in also having a shake - simply unnecessary excess calories that will either end up in the pan or around your waist......

Just to throw the cat amongst the pigeons mate ;-)

<a class="postlink" href="http://chadwaterbury.com/the-truth-about-post-workout-nutrition/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://chadwaterbury.com/the-truth-abou ... nutrition/</a>

Many may have heard of Chad Waterbury, but not many people will have heard of Ori Hofmekler, so considering Chad takes advice on fatloss from this guy then I think it's fairly safe to say he knows his stuff, but it's well worth digging into his 'work' a lot deeper if anyone's interested.

Just to add though, whilst I don't think it's a suitable approach (for 99% of people) when it comes to a bodybuilding perspective, for a fatloss and body recomping one (which this type of workout is aimed at), tailoring this with an 'Intermittent Fasting' regime will produce great benefits and results, but it does need to suit your appetite and daily structure.
 
Had it delivered yesterday. Going to start on Monday. No point tonight as I'll ruin any work out on Saturday at West Brom.
 
Dirty Harry said:
Just to throw the cat amongst the pigeons mate ;-)

<a class="postlink" href="http://chadwaterbury.com/the-truth-about-post-workout-nutrition/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://chadwaterbury.com/the-truth-abou ... nutrition/</a>

Many may have heard of Chad Waterbury, but not many people will have heard of Ori Hofmekler, so considering Chad takes advice on fatloss from this guy then I think it's fairly safe to say he knows his stuff, but it's well worth digging into his 'work' a lot deeper if anyone's interested.

Just to add though, whilst I don't think it's a suitable approach (for 99% of people) when it comes to a bodybuilding perspective, for a fatloss and body recomping one (which this type of workout is aimed at), tailoring this with an 'Intermittent Fasting' regime will produce great benefits and results, but it does need to suit your appetite and daily structure.

Its generally the approach i use and recommend,i train and then eat a 'real' meal about 30 - 60 mins later,i've never seen the merit of filling your body full of nutritionless,fat encouraging simple sugars when you have just trained your ass off in an attempt to gain a better and healthier body/physique......!
Food containing vits/minerals and antioxidants will serve you far better.

Your body needs the extended time period after training to 'cool down' as i call it,blood needs time to return to the digestive system and hormonal responses that have been triggered need to settle.

I normally eat a sweet potato with baked beans and a lean protein source.Carbs are generally esential in this meal as in the real world you should be bloody starving by this point!!

I notice the article finishes with an advert for the authors 'recommended' brand of whey......
 
FantasyIreland said:
Dirty Harry said:
Just to throw the cat amongst the pigeons mate ;-)

<a class="postlink" href="http://chadwaterbury.com/the-truth-about-post-workout-nutrition/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://chadwaterbury.com/the-truth-abou ... nutrition/</a>

Many may have heard of Chad Waterbury, but not many people will have heard of Ori Hofmekler, so considering Chad takes advice on fatloss from this guy then I think it's fairly safe to say he knows his stuff, but it's well worth digging into his 'work' a lot deeper if anyone's interested.

Just to add though, whilst I don't think it's a suitable approach (for 99% of people) when it comes to a bodybuilding perspective, for a fatloss and body recomping one (which this type of workout is aimed at), tailoring this with an 'Intermittent Fasting' regime will produce great benefits and results, but it does need to suit your appetite and daily structure.

Its generally the approach i use and recommend,i train and then eat a 'real' meal about 30 - 60 mins later,i've never seen the merit of filling your body full of nutritionless,fat encouraging simple sugars when you have just trained your ass off in an attempt to gain a better and healthier body/physique......!
Food containing vits/minerals and antioxidants will serve you far better.

Your body needs the extended time period after training to 'cool down' as i call it,blood needs time to return to the digestive system and hormonal responses that have been triggered need to settle.

I normally eat a sweet potato with baked beans and a lean protein source.Carbs are generally esential in this meal as in the real world you should be bloody starving by this point!!

Sorry if it came across a different way mate, wasn't 'dissin' you ;-), only the first part was with you in mind as I find it's an interesting concept and point of discussion (as I do with the IF and carb-backloading) and thought you'd enjoy the read, the rest was my own ramblings for the benefit of anyone using 'Insanity' lol, ideas for a different approach so to speak.

Personally I too find it a better protocol (the 30-60 minute gap) moreso for anyone with Endo tendencies, but as I say, it really needs to suit the individual and lifestyle, I find 'IF' and this method pretty easy as I don't have an appetite in the morning anymore and can easily last til 4-5 pm then train in a sort of fasted state, then eat for the remainder of the evening (as we spoke, different goals these days).

FantasyIreland said:
I notice the article finishes with an advert for the authors 'recommended' brand of whey......

Yeah, that was my first thoughts too when I first read it tbh lol.
 
Not at all H,i always enjoy your input and knowledge,cheers mate.

I've no idea how you can do the fasted thing though,i'm always thinking about food!! even when i'm eating one meal i'm thinking about the next lol......

And i too have altered my goals,staying lean and mean and keeping ahead of the 'scamps' is the main aim these days!
 
Cheers bud and obviously likewise.

It's easier for me as (naturally) I've never had the greatest appetite, could go for 2-3 days as a kid without even feeling the need to eat.

Only tried IF/carb-backloading type stuff for fatloss and lost almost a stone in a month with hardly stepping foot in the gym (I've just used on-site work as my 'cardio') with no real loss of current strength when hitting the weights (although wondering where my shoulders have gone lol), but I find it easy as once you factor in 9-10 hours sleep, then 4-5 hours am where I have no appetite these days anyway, then there's around 14-15 hours of the 16 fasting period gone, it'd fit in really well with this type of routine but if like you someone has an appetite in the morning then they'd struggle, horses for courses eh mate :-).
 

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