It's Quiet 18 - Wanna ring the bell?

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bell_mcfc said:
Yeah I get that.

I think our plans pretty much depend on what Gundo and Bernado are doing. Walker could easily play on the right hand side rotating with Akanji but that would mean Stones minutes coming mainly from the midfield pivot position.

I think it will all start falling into place when we know and that’s why we are sort of in the running for Rice because again aren’t 100% sure where we are yet.
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City aren't 100% sure where we are yet? The club will know exactly who we are buying this window, and next years summer window (unless someone comes from nowhere and moves up their list), and will have a shortlist of up and coming targets for summer 2025.

Our transfer dealings are not last minute impulse buys.

If we have shown a last minute interest in Rice if he wasn't in our plans originally, it won't be because we want him, it will be to push up the price and diminish our rivals ability to spend elsewhere. Think back to Maguire, Fred etc...

As for Gundo, the club will know exactly what is going on. The same with Bernardo. Just because we don't know, it doesn't mean the club don't. They will have agreed new deals or that they will leave, and asked both to keep quiet if they are leaving.
 
theevilweasel said:
Arsenal playing a clever game here. They know we won't move unless we have clarity over Bernardo and Gundugan. They are trying to push through Rice before we are willing to show our hand. Media reporting Bernardo to PSG as talks ongoing.
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I doubt City would miss potential targets we may want because we are sitting around waiting for a decision from Gundogan or Bernardo. We will want an answer in the coming days and will tell any potential targets to just wait a week before making any decision. If the club wanted Rice we would certainly not miss out because we are waiting for a response from Gundo/Bernardo. We are not run by idiots.
 
theevilweasel said:
Arsenal playing a clever game here. They know we won't move unless we have clarity over Bernardo and Gundugan. They are trying to push through Rice before we are willing to show our hand. Media reporting Bernardo to PSG as talks ongoing.
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Feels the opposite to me. If we wanted Rice, he'd already be playing for City. The huge transfers for City take months to develop and this last minute interest feels artificial from West Ham.
 
richards30 said:
its frustrating at times that we dont do our in business until the outs are sorted?
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One of the reasons we do so well with the squad is that we don't have as many hangers on in the squad - and that's because you don't buy in the hope that you can offload other players.

We might think United or Chelsea's players are crap, but they'd be in a much better position if each new manager was told to deal with the squad he had, and make a team out of those players. Instead they buy a few new ones, giving too much power to those they want to leave, and then have players that cost tons of money but are peripheral for years, or have to send senior players out on loan regularly.

This season with Phillips and Cancelo is the first time under Pep we've had any similar issues, and neither was because we had too many players.
 
bluenova said:
One of the reasons we do so well with the squad is that we don't have as many hangers on in the squad - and that's because you don't buy in the hope that you can offload other players.

We might think United or Chelsea's players are crap, but they'd be in a much better position if each new manager was told to deal with the squad he had, and make a team out of those players. Instead they buy a few new ones, giving too much power to those they want to leave, and then have players that cost tons of money but are peripheral for years, or have to send senior players out on loan regularly.

This season with Phillips and Cancelo is the first time under Pep we've had any similar issues, and neither was because we had too many players.
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Poch is gonna have fun mate isnt he? Nkunku and Gusto on the way in as well this summer and maybe he might not have fancied them but no choice now?
 
simon23 said:
If Rice is coming in for Phillips then that's an upgrade. If its for any other players it's a downgrade.
We will have to over pay due yo the English tax on him..
He has a good engine on him but technically he falls well short on Bernado Gundo etc. However certainly better than Phillips.

If we keep Phillips and get Rice it will seem we would be a bit bloated with options for the DM if you also consider Stones in there.

Strange he would want to come here as a back up...thst could tilt the scales in favour of arsenal.
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Agreed, technically he's good but not on Bernie or Gundo's level, what I like about him though is his character and mentality he's a real leader and would definitely improve us.

if he's coming and replacing Phillips thats a good deal, as a number 8 i dont think he has that intricate quality that our system requires, although he could definitely learn it playing under per for a few seasons.
 
Vester said:
I doubt City would miss potential targets we may want because we are sitting around waiting for a decision from Gundogan or Bernardo. We will want an answer in the coming days and will tell any potential targets to just wait a week before making any decision. If the club wanted Rice we would certainly not miss out because we are waiting for a response from Gundo/Bernardo. We are not run by idiots.
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I agree with the majority of this post, however completely disagree players will wait a week or 2. This would potentially ruin the deal in place with the other club involved. Arsenal would know 100% why hes delaying, potentially causing them to look elsewhere and rip up his 225k a week, 5 year deal on offer? Tbf good excuse to delay atm, being on international duty.
 
theevilweasel said:
I agree with the majority of this post, however completely disagree players will wait a week or 2. This would potentially ruin the deal in place with the other club involved. Arsenal would know 100% why hes delaying, potentially causing them to look elsewhere and rip up his 225k a week, 5 year deal on offer? Tbf good excuse to delay atm, being on international duty.
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Rice is obviously Arsenals first choice. They know they are not the top dogs on the transfer market and wont turn elsewhere because their number one target wants to wait a week to see if one of the top dogs of European football will make an offer, when we are still in June and the transfer window opened a week ago. If they would only sign players that would rather sign for them even if City are interested they would only have a small pool of Arsenal fans to sign from.
 
Manc123 said:
People need to stop fretting about transfers. The way txiki runs our club do we honestly believe that we haven't got our targets lined up and ready to go.
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Tbf, as demonstrated by the Cucurella debacle last summer, Cheeky is not beyond the odd fuck-up. Of course Pep and Ake fixed the problem between them but TB does not always have his shit entirely together. Of course it'll end up fine in the end though.
 
Bernard20 said:
Except he’s just not very good. He’s a modern day Micah Richards, all braun and very little end product.. also injury prone. £100m? No thanks. All opinions though hey.
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Absolutely. I think that there may be a little more to his game, however, and one never knows with injury. Walker had had a torrid couple of years before he arrived but has subsequently been less hindered; people also complained when he arrived that he was all pace and muscle and no technique, yet Guardiola improved him beyond recognition. Perhaps we could get James for substantially less and that our style of football would be less stressful to his body. Interestingly, the year he had at Wigan in the Championship saw him play over 4,000 minutes unscathed. Maybe those rejuvenating northern airs and waters are just what he needs..
 
PSG want Bernardo, but why do they keep adding players into any deal, do they have FFP limits that they can't pay the 80 million.
 
Just looking at the formation we've been playing if Pep sticks to it and just adds to it, we'd be looking for maybe another CDM, a CM if Gundo leaves and a right wing if Bernardo leaves.
 
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