joe hart

[roypaulknewmyfather]

Strange how every keeper asked about Joe rate him as the best in the league. What would help him is a settled defensive partnership in front of him. At the moment he hasn't a clue what might happen in front of him. Look at the number of stupid fouls given away in dangerous areas. Building from the back has been a key to success and stability since the year dot. We play anybody there at present (Garcia), what confidence can be taken from that?

-- Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:42 am --

 

[kenzie115]

It was 100% Hart’s fault, no question. Nastasic is dealing with the situation perfectly comfortably and easily heads the ball back to Joe if he stays put. There’s absolutely no reason for him to be 5 yards out of his box trying to clear a ball that his centre half is dealing with. The only explanation I can come up with is that because of all the pressure he’s been under recently and after effectively saving the day in Moscow, he wanted to feel like he was directly helping again and saw a possibility to come out, clear the ball and get praise for putting the game to bed, bad decision.

This is the key for me; decision making. As a team that dominates possession in most games and restricts the opponents to few shots on goal, we don’t need a great shot-stopper, which is what Hart is, we need a reliable keeper who doesn’t make howlers, can organise his defence, command his area and, if we’re to continue with the high line, sweep up well. The latter in particular relies on excellent decision making, when to come and when to stay. Hart has shown that he’s not the best at this; Chelsea and Villa this season but even going back to our title winning season he came rushing out against Spurs at home and Defoe beat him to the ball for an easy tap in.

Pantillimon will start on Wednesday and if he does well I’d leave him in for Norwich. Hart needs a bit of time out of the spotlight. I’d like to see us go for Casillas in January, ideally on an 18 month or 2 and a half year deal, but even if it’s just on loan for 6 months it’d be a good move. Hart can then be his understudy, play in the league and FA Cup and maybe some Premier league games but most importantly, spend time learning from one of the best keepers to ever play the game. He’s only 26, still young for a keeper, so talk of getting rid is ridiculous, I just think he needs a bit of time to work on things and he won’t get that if he’s playing every week with the media scrutinising his every move.

 

[Kieranmcfc1]

I listened to an interview with David platt on talksport and he was saying if Mancini didn't get sacked they would have brought in begovic in the summer from stoke. Would have been a good shout. Joe hart had a shit season last season and carrying it on this season.

 

[seafordblue]

Pantillimon will start on Wednesday and if he does well I’d leave him in for Norwich. Hart needs a bit of time out of the spotlight. I’d like to see us go for Casillas in January, ideally on an 18 month or 2 and a half year deal, but even if it’s just on loan for 6 months it’d be a good move. Hart can then be his understudy, play in the league and FA Cup and maybe some Premier league games but most importantly, spend time learning from one of the best keepers to ever play the game. He’s only 26, still young for a keeper, so talk of getting rid is ridiculous, I just think he needs a bit of time to work on things and he won’t get that if he’s playing every week with the media scrutinising his every move.

I expect Pantillimon to be one of 10 changes for Wednesday's game and if he does well should stay in for Norwich.

However, did anyone else notice him letting in an awful shot through his fingers in the warm up before yesterday's match? Certainly didn't fill me with confidence.

The transfer window can't come soon enough, although I don't feel Casillas in the answer. At only 6"1' he's far too short and the same height as Shay Given and we all know he was susceptible to crosses.

Get Begovic in. Send Hart out on loan so he can get his confidence back and not at City's expense.

 

[kenzie115]

Pantillimon will start on Wednesday and if he does well I’d leave him in for Norwich. Hart needs a bit of time out of the spotlight. I’d like to see us go for Casillas in January, ideally on an 18 month or 2 and a half year deal, but even if it’s just on loan for 6 months it’d be a good move. Hart can then be his understudy, play in the league and FA Cup and maybe some Premier league games but most importantly, spend time learning from one of the best keepers to ever play the game. He’s only 26, still young for a keeper, so talk of getting rid is ridiculous, I just think he needs a bit of time to work on things and he won’t get that if he’s playing every week with the media scrutinising his every move.

I expect Pantillimon to be one of 10 changes for Wednesday's game and if he does well should stay in for Norwich.

However, did anyone else notice him letting in an awful shot through his fingers in the warm up before yesterday's match? Certainly didn't fill me with confidence.

The transfer window can't come soon enough, although I don't feel Casillas in the answer. At only 6"1' he's far too short and the same height as Shay Given and we all know he was susceptible to crosses.

Get Begovic in. Send Hart out on loan so he can get his confidence back and not at City's expense.

I don't think yesterday can be blamed on a lack of confidence, if anything it was over-confidence that led to him rushing out. After the save at the end of the Moscow game his confidence will have been sky high.

Poor decision making is the problem. Begovic is an excellent keeper for a team like Stoke who face plenty of attempts on their goal. We need an experienced keeper who's used to not having a lot to do each game but being ready on the odd ocassion he is called upon. Casillas' experience makes him a prime candidate not just for our no.1 shirt, but for Hart's mentor too.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

Pantillimon will start on Wednesday and if he does well I’d leave him in for Norwich. Hart needs a bit of time out of the spotlight. I’d like to see us go for Casillas in January, ideally on an 18 month or 2 and a half year deal, but even if it’s just on loan for 6 months it’d be a good move. Hart can then be his understudy, play in the league and FA Cup and maybe some Premier league games but most importantly, spend time learning from one of the best keepers to ever play the game. He’s only 26, still young for a keeper, so talk of getting rid is ridiculous, I just think he needs a bit of time to work on things and he won’t get that if he’s playing every week with the media scrutinising his every move.

I expect Pantillimon to be one of 10 changes for Wednesday's game and if he does well should stay in for Norwich.

However, did anyone else notice him letting in an awful shot through his fingers in the warm up before yesterday's match? Certainly didn't fill me with confidence.

The transfer window can't come soon enough, although I don't feel Casillas in the answer. At only 6"1' he's far too short and the same height as Shay Given and we all know he was susceptible to crosses.

Get Begovic in. Send Hart out on loan so he can get his confidence back and not at City's expense.

I don't think yesterday can be blamed on a lack of confidence, if anything it was over-confidence that led to him rushing out. After the save at the end of the Moscow game his confidence will have been sky high.

Poor decision making is the problem. Begovic is an excellent keeper for a team like Stoke who face plenty of attempts on their goal. We need an experienced keeper who's used to not having a lot to do each game but being ready on the odd ocassion he is called upon. Casillas' experience makes him a prime candidate not just for our no.1 shirt, but for Hart's mentor too.

We need someone who will send a statement, has an aura about and a commanding presence that demands respect.

Begovic whilst good has no experience of elite end of football and has made quite a few mistakes this season himself when I've watched him.

I think the defence would respond well to having someone like Casillas behind them.

 

[Webster]

Hart needs to dump the Bentley, give up the fashion Shows, think twice about doing hair adverts and focus on being the top sportsman he is being paid to be and should want to be. All the top sportsman have a laser type focus, I think things/focus are/is getting a little diluted with his outside interests.
I am not sure that Pantilimon is the answer, but maybe he should be given the chance?

 

[BlueMoonz1977]

he hasn't been anywhere near the form of our title winning season and since that time his form has been declining. For me pants is not rated anywhere near high enough to be considered as a replacement for Joe - so we need to sort this position in January asap along with a new LB

PS - lets get rid of Garcia as well because he should no longer be near the first team. I would rather we put an EDS lad in instead

 

[Ardwick Green Blue]

Having been a match-going supporter for over 50 years I came to the conclusion a long time ago that players & managers come & go so the only thing that really matters is the club. I view everything through the prism of Manchester City FC and in my opinion Hart is no longer an asset and hence should be dropped.

If he cannot fight his way back to being first choice he should be sold.

 

[johnbmcr]

Having been a match-going supporter for over 50 years I came to the conclusion a long time ago that players & managers come & go so the only thing that really matters is the club. I view everything through the prism of Manchester City FC and in my opinion Hart is no longer an asset and hence should be dropped.

If he cannot fight his way back to being first choice he should be sold.

we should end this thread here supreme logic and the wisest and most effective solution loyalty is valuable but its gots limits the club must come first the many not the one