joe hart

[oakiecokie]

i'm hoping pantillion gets his shot against west ham, he's better than hart IMO.

On the wum again ,I see.

why am i a wum?

because i believe a goalkeeper who has made a number of bad mistakes over the past year, that have damaged the team i support, should be replaced by a keeper that when relied upon, hasn't made a mistake and has made some decent saves?

you're a fan of mancini aren't you? well he was going to replace hart.

I`m a "fan" off anyone who manages City and would never play one manger against the other,as everyone has their faults,just like we do.I honestly don`t believe for one moment that you think that Hart is not better than Pants,but I wouldn`t disagree that he has never let us down,but it still doesn`t make him a better goalkeeper.
I take it you never watched Big Joe Corrigan ??

 

[Sky Blue]

Well I seem to have hit a raw nerve and as for being juvenile,well I`ve read quite a few of your posts and one could hardly describe you as a dyed in the wool Blue.

Well then try digging a bit deeper mate, if you mean I'm not just a happy clapper to blindly applaud at whatever our players do then you are quite correct, if you don't then you couldn't be more wrong, but again I have nothing to prove to you or anyone else with enough time on their hands to go back over someone's previous posts to try to make a point. lol

Yet you blatantly support Keane,irrespective of his hate towards City.You also come over as a bitter Rag,if you think for one moment we "only" just pipped United to the title.No City fan in a right state of mind could/would see it otherwise,so maybe you have problems and you certainly don`t help your cause in trying to justify you`re love of Keane and appear to be anti Hart.

Thought the same as you Oakie.

Look at this on the Plzen thread post match thread...He feared fucking wrong didn't he?

Had we been playing a Barca, Madrid, Chelsea or Utd we would have got battered , 3 goals just papered over the cracks and I fear those cracks will reappear on Sunday.......

 

[RandomJ]

i'm hoping pantillion gets his shot against west ham, he's better than hart IMO.

On the wum again ,I see.

why am i a wum?

because i believe a goalkeeper who has made a number of bad mistakes over the past year, that have damaged the team i support, should be replaced by a keeper that when relied upon, hasn't made a mistake and has made some decent saves?

you're a fan of mancini aren't you? well he was going to replace hart.

You know fuck all. Pants has played a few shit teams and some other teams in pre season friendlies he has never been tested fully against quality players but thats enough for you to come to the staggering conclusion he is a better keeper than Hart. Hart while he has made some mistakes has also saved more points than he has ever lost us. So your opinion that Pants is better is worth fuck all as you're talking out of your arse once again. Change the fucking record.

 

[oakiecokie]

Well then try digging a bit deeper mate, if you mean I'm not just a happy clapper to blindly applaud at whatever our players do then you are quite correct, if you don't then you couldn't be more wrong, but again I have nothing to prove to you or anyone else with enough time on their hands to go back over someone's previous posts to try to make a point. lol

Yet you blatantly support Keane,irrespective of his hate towards City.You also come over as a bitter Rag,if you think for one moment we "only" just pipped United to the title.No City fan in a right state of mind could/would see it otherwise,so maybe you have problems and you certainly don`t help your cause in trying to justify you`re love of Keane and appear to be anti Hart.

Thought the same as you Oakie.

Look at this on the Plzen thread post match thread...He feared fucking wrong didn't he?

Had we been playing a Barca, Madrid, Chelsea or Utd we would have got battered , 3 goals just papered over the cracks and I fear those cracks will reappear on Sunday.......

He doesn`t fool me for one moment SB.He shows plenty of negatives towards City and too much pro United for me.

 

[salfordbluetrue]

cant believe this tripe is still going on there is only one excuse to slag of a city player and that is laziness yeah we all get pissed with mistakes but there is no city player that is the best in the world and mancini pellers and the city coaching staff say he is the best they have that is good enough for me now you lot can decide whether you support city or raggie neville and keane

 

[Anonymous]

On the wum again ,I see.

why am i a wum?

because i believe a goalkeeper who has made a number of bad mistakes over the past year, that have damaged the team i support, should be replaced by a keeper that when relied upon, hasn't made a mistake and has made some decent saves?

you're a fan of mancini aren't you? well he was going to replace hart.

I`m a "fan" off anyone who manages City and would never play one manger against the other,as everyone has their faults,just like we do.I honestly don`t believe for one moment that you think that Hart is not better than Pants,but I wouldn`t disagree that he has never let us down,but it still doesn`t make him a better goalkeeper.
I take it you never watched Big Joe Corrigan ??

harts capable of having great games but it's better to have an average keeper who doesn't let in howlers than somebody with world class ability that lets a clanger in every other week.

pantillimon hasn't put a foot wrong, he played very well in the fa cup last season, making some very good saves. whereas hart has had some great games like dortmund but has terrible concentration and fucks up at crucial times.

so for me i'd prefer pantillimon at this moment in time until january where i'd move in for someone else.

and that's not being a WUM, there are lots out there who agree with me.

 

[the-ecstacy-of-eight]

CHEESE 'n' CRACKERS!

Why do threads on here ALWAYS turn into little slanging matches? You CAN just walk away from an argument you know?

Think you`ll find that's what a forum is used for, both debating and slagging off one another. You must lead a very sheltered life.

YAWN!

...anyway, carry on with your futile little exercise; but my (sheltered) life experiences have taught me that the best course of action when confronted with wind-up-merchants is to simply ignore them; when they realise that nobody is listening to them they tend to run out of steam.

 

[oakiecokie]

CHEESE 'n' CRACKERS!

Why do threads on here ALWAYS turn into little slanging matches? You CAN just walk away from an argument you know?

Think you`ll find that's what a forum is used for, both debating and slagging off one another. You must lead a very sheltered life.

YAWN!

...anyway, carry on with your futile little exercise; but my (sheltered) life experiences have taught me that the best course of action when confronted with wind-up-merchants is to simply ignore them; when they realise that nobody is listening to them they tend to run out of steam.

Something you ain`t heeded on this thread then !!

 

[the-ecstacy-of-eight]

Think you`ll find that's what a forum is used for, both debating and slagging off one another. You must lead a very sheltered life.

YAWN!

...anyway, carry on with your futile little exercise; but my (sheltered) life experiences have taught me that the best course of action when confronted with wind-up-merchants is to simply ignore them; when they realise that nobody is listening to them they tend to run out of steam.

Something you ain`t heeded on this thread then !!

HA! Yeah, I know. :) Just call me a hypocrite :)

 

[TGR]

The factions are squabbling! (as GDM would say)

 

[RandomJ]

why am i a wum?

because i believe a goalkeeper who has made a number of bad mistakes over the past year, that have damaged the team i support, should be replaced by a keeper that when relied upon, hasn't made a mistake and has made some decent saves?

you're a fan of mancini aren't you? well he was going to replace hart.

I`m a "fan" off anyone who manages City and would never play one manger against the other,as everyone has their faults,just like we do.I honestly don`t believe for one moment that you think that Hart is not better than Pants,but I wouldn`t disagree that he has never let us down,but it still doesn`t make him a better goalkeeper.
I take it you never watched Big Joe Corrigan ??

harts capable of having great games but it's better to have an average keeper who doesn't let in howlers than somebody with world class ability that lets a clanger in every other week.

pantillimon hasn't put a foot wrong, he played very well in the fa cup last season, making some very good saves. whereas hart has had some great games like dortmund but has terrible concentration and fucks up at crucial times.

so for me i'd prefer pantillimon at this moment in time until january where i'd move in for someone else.

and that's not being a WUM, there are lots out there who agree with me.

You clearly didn't pay attention during the cup run. We played complete and utter dross teams almost the entire way to the final, he had about 3 shots on target all cup run to deal with and that's enough for you to push a long standing, experienced, mostly consistent keeper under the bus. Fucking knee jerk much? Put it this way if Pants is half as good as he is in your head then why is Hart still between the sticks? Even without the errors why isn't Pants our number 1? Because he's an average keeper who can only dream of getting to Harts level. Deal with it Hart is going nowhere.

 

[Anonymous]

Yet you blatantly support Keane,irrespective of his hate towards City.You also come over as a bitter Rag,if you think for one moment we "only" just pipped United to the title.No City fan in a right state of mind could/would see it otherwise,so maybe you have problems and you certainly don`t help your cause in trying to justify you`re love of Keane and appear to be anti Hart.

Thought the same as you Oakie.

Look at this on the Plzen thread post match thread...He feared fucking wrong didn't he?

Had we been playing a Barca, Madrid, Chelsea or Utd we would have got battered , 3 goals just papered over the cracks and I fear those cracks will reappear on Sunday.......

He doesn`t fool me for one moment SB.He shows plenty of negatives towards City and too much pro United for me.

OMG, what a bunch of happy clappers you really are, I'm happy to say yes my fears were unfounded in the Derby, but the papered over cracks definitely reappeared against Munich though didn't they ............... oh no I've dared to mention we got humiliated by Munich at the Etihad........... I must be a rag and not know it...........Please change the record !!

 

[salfordbluetrue]

yeah we got murdered in every dept so do we sack the team do you support nevilles view hart did nowt wrong but could have done better

 

[Kippaxstreetheadache]

Joe's problem is he made the grade at a young age and began to believe his own hype after receiving plaudits from every corner of the game. He allowed complacency, and I believe, arrogance to creep into his game.

Same thing happened with Micah after his breakthrough season under Sven, he was regarded as the best young English centre half in the country, with the versality to play fullback. He was receiving regular England call ups, Chelsea were rumoured to be after him. The only question mark seemed to be how would he grow as a player, which position would he make his own.

We all recall how he appeared to be regularly propping up in nightclubs surrounded by hangers on, making appearances in music videos - seemingly enjoying the limelight and lifestyle a little too much. He believed he had already made it, and the graft was no longer required. His form suffered terribly, he suffered from injuries and was subsequently mismanaged by Hughes, the England call ups dried up and his game and confidence were reduced to a shadow of what they once were.

It took him a couple of years to recover, and a lot of us had doubts that he would. But he ended speculation over his position and worked tirelessly on his game as a fullback. He got his head down, and with some guidance from Mancini became a reliable and consistent fullback.

He deserves a lot of credit for that.

Joe is in a similar, albeit not identical, place to the one Micah once was. The greatest similarities are the complacency and overconfidence/arrogance.

Joe is on a pedestal now, he has no direct competition at club level or international level. He's England's number one. He has gigs in advertising, everybody knows his name. He plays in the Champions League at a high profile club. He's made it.

He isn't the young lad with everything to prove, trying to fight off competition from Issakson and Kasper Schmeichel to play regularly at club level. Nor is he the promising young goalkeeper trying to impress enough to get an England call up. He is no longer the young goalkeeper trying to prove he deserves to start ahead of Shay Given, nor is he the same player that was once trying to dislodge the old guard at international level and establish himself as the undisputed number 1.

He has made it.

But now the foundations are wobbling, and they are of his own making. He must take responsibility for his game over the last 18 months. This not a recent development, it has only received wider public
acknowledgement recently, but make no mistake, his game has regressed.

How he addresses this period of his career will determine what kind of keeper he becomes. He could become a Paul Robinson figure, or he could overcome it all and remove all doubts about his credentials for years to come.

Personally, I have very real doubts. Then again, I once said the same about Micah.

Ultimately though, Micah has not lived up to his initial promise. As it stands, Joe is going the same way.

 

[Anonymous]

I`m a "fan" off anyone who manages City and would never play one manger against the other,as everyone has their faults,just like we do.I honestly don`t believe for one moment that you think that Hart is not better than Pants,but I wouldn`t disagree that he has never let us down,but it still doesn`t make him a better goalkeeper.
I take it you never watched Big Joe Corrigan ??

harts capable of having great games but it's better to have an average keeper who doesn't let in howlers than somebody with world class ability that lets a clanger in every other week.

pantillimon hasn't put a foot wrong, he played very well in the fa cup last season, making some very good saves. whereas hart has had some great games like dortmund but has terrible concentration and fucks up at crucial times.

so for me i'd prefer pantillimon at this moment in time until january where i'd move in for someone else.

and that's not being a WUM, there are lots out there who agree with me.

You clearly didn't pay attention during the cup run. We played complete and utter dross teams almost the entire way to the final, he had about 3 shots on target all cup run to deal with and that's enough for you to push a long standing, experienced, mostly consistent keeper under the bus. Fucking knee jerk much? Put it this way if Pants is half as good as he is in your head then why is Hart still between the sticks? Even without the errors why isn't Pants our number 1? Because he's an average keeper who can only dream of getting to Harts level. Deal with it Hart is going nowhere.

he didn't make a single fucking mistake and made some crucial saves in the semi.

he deserved his shot in the final IMO.

how many mistakes does hart need to make before people wise up and realise?? anyway i think pellegrini will replace hart next summer.

 

[BlueTG]

harts capable of having great games but it's better to have an average keeper who doesn't let in howlers than somebody with world class ability that lets a clanger in every other week.

pantillimon hasn't put a foot wrong, he played very well in the fa cup last season, making some very good saves. whereas hart has had some great games like dortmund but has terrible concentration and fucks up at crucial times.

so for me i'd prefer pantillimon at this moment in time until january where i'd move in for someone else.

and that's not being a WUM, there are lots out there who agree with me.

You clearly didn't pay attention during the cup run. We played complete and utter dross teams almost the entire way to the final, he had about 3 shots on target all cup run to deal with and that's enough for you to push a long standing, experienced, mostly consistent keeper under the bus. Fucking knee jerk much? Put it this way if Pants is half as good as he is in your head then why is Hart still between the sticks? Even without the errors why isn't Pants our number 1? Because he's an average keeper who can only dream of getting to Harts level. Deal with it Hart is going nowhere.

he didn't make a single fucking mistake and made some crucial saves in the semi.

he deserved his shot in the final IMO.

how many mistakes does hart need to make before people wise up and realise?? anyway i think pellegrini will replace hart next summer.

If he would have kept his mouth shut about wanting to leave 4 days before the final, I think he would have played. He is not a better goalkeeper than Hart though, Pants has made mistakes for us.

 

[FredTilson]

According to the Daily Fail, Pellegrini wants to sign Caballero. Might not be a bad move, would be content being number 2 and is a much better keeper than Panty's Lemon

 

[City Raider]

it seems keane placed some gypsy curse on him - only one answer, someone has to take keane out

 

[oakiecokie]

According to the Daily Fail, Pellegrini wants to sign Caballero. Might not be a bad move, would be content being number 2 and is a much better keeper than Panty's Lemon

I know its all speculative and we know that he`s looking for an other goalie,so what does that tell you about Pants,doesn`t Pelle trust him as a number two goalie ?

 

[Anonymous]

You clearly didn't pay attention during the cup run. We played complete and utter dross teams almost the entire way to the final, he had about 3 shots on target all cup run to deal with and that's enough for you to push a long standing, experienced, mostly consistent keeper under the bus. Fucking knee jerk much? Put it this way if Pants is half as good as he is in your head then why is Hart still between the sticks? Even without the errors why isn't Pants our number 1? Because he's an average keeper who can only dream of getting to Harts level. Deal with it Hart is going nowhere.

he didn't make a single fucking mistake and made some crucial saves in the semi.

he deserved his shot in the final IMO.

how many mistakes does hart need to make before people wise up and realise?? anyway i think pellegrini will replace hart next summer.

If he would have kept his mouth shut about wanting to leave 4 days before the final, I think he would have played. He is not a better goalkeeper than Hart though, Pants has made mistakes for us.

possibly.

i think hart has more ability sure but his inconsistencies make him completely unreliable compared to pants.

we need a new goalkeeper that's for sure.