John Stones

[BringBackSwales]

Did Stones sign a new contract after the Chelsea bids failed?

 

[waspish]

Premier League FFP - which they voted for - will be their un-doing. They can't bring too many big names in because of the limitations on wage growth. To hang on to Stones they will need to match or get close to the kind of package we'd offer and similarly match a PSG package for Lukaku. If they do keep those two - there will be plenty more who want parity or at least an uplift in the present squad - so they'll see huge wage growth in the present squad just because they are deemed to have money! So they won't be bringing in a legion of superstars just yet because they can't increase their wage bill too much under the restrictive PL FFP rules. Serves em right.

Summed up pretty well. The main objective and priority for Everton should be a new Ground with a 60k capacity with a long term sponsor of this new ground, once they get a new ground they can move forward as a club pretty rapidly with sponsor bending over backwards to sponsor them Everton is a huge club.

 

[marc_mcfc]

Don't confuse England starting places, with what someone is supposedly worth!
Stones pisses on Smalling and Cahill. He is paying the price for being poorly managed/coached at Everton last season. Sure he made mistakes too, that can't be denied, but the lad is class in my opinion.

It's very telling when you have arguably 2 of the best managers in world football in Pep and Mourinho, who both have completely differing styles and ideas on how a team should set-up, yet both of these really want Stones.
For me the only test Stones has to pass is the mentality test. An English signing for a huge fee always attracts attention and its how he copes withy it all, he'll make mistakes, like every player, but if he thought he was under the spotlight this season just gone, just wait til he signs for us for £40mil +.
For what it's worth, with his talent playing under Pep, I think he'll blow everyone away.

Very true fair comment

 

[aguero93:20]

Did Stones sign a new contract after the Chelsea bids failed?

Nope, last contract extension signed in August 2014. He'd be pretty silly to sign a new contract at that club if he's got his sights set higher.

 

[worsleyweb]

Summed up pretty well. The main objective and priority for Everton should be a new Ground with a 60k capacity with a long term sponsor of this new ground, once they get a new ground they can move forward as a club pretty rapidly with sponsor bending over backwards to sponsor them Everton is a huge club.

Agreed - i would say probably a bigger club than us historically.

 

[Jazzman]

Premier League FFP - which they voted for - will be their un-doing. They can't bring too many big names in because of the limitations on wage growth. To hang on to Stones they will need to match or get close to the kind of package we'd offer and similarly match a PSG package for Lukaku. If they do keep those two - there will be plenty more who want parity or at least an uplift in the present squad - so they'll see huge wage growth in the present squad just because they are deemed to have money! So they won't be bringing in a legion of superstars just yet because they can't increase their wage bill too much under the restrictive PL FFP rules. Serves em right.

Yes it does, arrogant pricks.

 

[kaz7]

 

[bluesince76]

Summed up pretty well. The main objective and priority for Everton should be a new Ground with a 60k capacity with a long term sponsor of this new ground, once they get a new ground they can move forward as a club pretty rapidly with sponsor bending over backwards to sponsor them Everton is a huge club.

Some sort of long term, sustainable business plan? Though UEFA had banned them. What they should do is resell the club to a series of hedge funds and use the money to line their own pockets, thus meeting all FFP requirements.

 

[efcblue]

You're being extremely naïve if you honestly think City and Stones' agent have had no discussions whatsoever about him coming to our club. At the very least we'll have been informed that he's interested in joining (if he wasn't we'd have distanced ourselves from the whole thing a long time ago), more likely we've discussed financial terms as well, plus we'll have explained where Guardiola sees him in his plans etc. We won't have agreed a fee with Everton, but we'll have been given an indication that selling Stones is something they'd consider for the right price.

It's equally naïve of you to say "money is no issue to us now". FFP means having an extremely wealthy owner can only help so much, he can spend on infrastructure and things like that but you still need to spend what your earn and are seriously limited in what he can invest in the side. If you're expecting him to be financing a huge spending spree or throwing £100,000+ wages at your squad then you're likely to be disappointed. Everton's chances of challenging near the top of the Premier League will be hampered as long as you're hamstrung by an antiquated stadium which is simply completely unsuited to modern football and the revenue making ability that is required by it.

Will Stones join City? I simply don't know. But to suggest there's been no negotiating just won't be accurate.

Skimmed through your post.

City and Stones have not entered negotiations. Everton have been contacted, City have been told to wait until after the Euros and that a lot of money will be required. Money is of no issue to Everton anymore, transfers are purely to dodge the slalom that is FFP. All this I know to be an absolute fact.

that being said mate, despite your new investment, do you think stones will still be an everton player come the end of august, because i don't

I was very hopeful of it a month ago. I was sure that Lukaku was going and Stones would stay.

Now, it appears as though the opposite is the case. Funny how things change. I assume Koeman has made a decision and deemed Stones expendable in order to improve the squad. I can see why he'd value a proven 25+ goal per season striker over a defender, but I would honestly prefer if we kept Stones; he has a high skill ceiling.

As I've said, the investment has made money no issue. The issue now is FFP and Stones' sale would allow Koeman to make the transfers he needs to improve the squad in the areas that need improvement.

If Everton replied to us with a not for sale at any fee I would say the Everton fan might have a point, but give us a call after the euros sounds like a green light to me.

To summarise what I said above, it is likely that Stones will be sacrificed for FFP, which is why you haven't been told "not for any price" but rather "wait".

It's not just Stones being away at the Euros which is delaying these negotiations. Koeman has a list of targets and the Euros are preventing him from negotiating for those players too. Once he can summarise who's available, who he can get and how much it will cost, any negotiations over Stones can begin.

 

[worsleyweb]

Skimmed through your post.

City and Stones have not entered negotiations. Everton have been contacted, City have been told to wait until after the Euros and that a lot of money will be required. Money is of no issue to Everton anymore, transfers are purely to dodge the slalom that is FFP. All this I know to be an absolute fact.



I was very hopeful of it a month ago. I was sure that Lukaku was going and Stones would stay.

Now, it appears as though the opposite is the case. Funny how things change. I assume Koeman has made a decision and deemed Stones expendable in order to improve the squad. I can see why he'd value a proven 25+ goal per season striker over a defender, but I would honestly prefer if we kept Stones; he has a high skill ceiling.

As I've said, the investment has made money no issue. The issue now is FFP and Stones' sale would allow Koeman to make the transfers he needs to improve the squad in the areas that need improvement.

Problem Everton will have is the cost of the new ground and the pay back. Don't care how rich your owner is - not going to be easy to compete with City, United, Liverpool, Spurs, Chelsea or West Ham. I just don't see you breaking into the top 4 easily.