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Re: Juan Mata is a must
Anyway besides that, Mata speaks that language too. Whether it is football or Spanish that Mancini was talking about :P
Mancini's understanding of English is not that complexed, and if you listened to it in context, I believe it is fair to say he was trying to express the commonality of spoken language between the 2.Mat01706 said:Matt the Giant said:So, in every single post-match interview, Mancini talks about how significant it is, that Silva and Aguero speaks the same language, something that I, Dax, Mad4it has talked about for months now... well guess what Roberto, - Mata speaks Spanish as well! Get him in!
He didn't actually say that, he said they 'play in the same language', which I'm sure you'll agree is totally different...
Anyway besides that, Mata speaks that language too. Whether it is football or Spanish that Mancini was talking about :P
Matt the Giant
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On the contrary, - that was exactly what he was saying. Here is one example:
<a class="postlink" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14538330.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14538330.stm</a>
Look at about 1:00, when talking about how great Silva and Aguero is "they speak the same language"... and adds "like YaYa".
To me this clearly indicates that our manager sees a shared language as a major plus and thus should be something to consider when looking for potential targets.
Silva, Aguero, Yaya and Mata would be immense together. And if Tevez decides to do a 180 in his attitude, add him to that already devastating mix.
I fully understand and appreciate our interest in Nasri, but if it's him instead of Mata... well I just don't get it.<br /><br />-- Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:54 am --<br /><br />
That's crystal-clearly the case.
Mat01706 said:He didn't actually say that, he said they 'play in the same language', which I'm sure you'll agree is totally different...
On the contrary, - that was exactly what he was saying. Here is one example:
<a class="postlink" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14538330.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14538330.stm</a>
Look at about 1:00, when talking about how great Silva and Aguero is "they speak the same language"... and adds "like YaYa".
To me this clearly indicates that our manager sees a shared language as a major plus and thus should be something to consider when looking for potential targets.
Silva, Aguero, Yaya and Mata would be immense together. And if Tevez decides to do a 180 in his attitude, add him to that already devastating mix.
I fully understand and appreciate our interest in Nasri, but if it's him instead of Mata... well I just don't get it.<br /><br />-- Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:54 am --<br /><br />
Dax777 said:Mancini's understanding of English is not that complexed, and if you listened to it in context, I believe it is fair to say he was trying to express the commonality of spoken language between the 2.
That's crystal-clearly the case.
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Do you think the inter play between Aguero and Silva was significanly aided by the fact they both speak Spanish? It's about knowing where each other are, it's about footballing instinct, and I think that's what Mancini was trying to get across.
Matt the Giant said:Mat01706 said:He didn't actually say that, he said they 'play in the same language', which I'm sure you'll agree is totally different...
On the contrary, - that was exactly what he was saying. Here is one example:
<a class="postlink" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14538330.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14538330.stm</a>
Look at about 1:00, when talking about how great Silva and Aguero is "they speak the same language"... and adds "like YaYa".
To me this clearly indicates that our manager sees a shared language as a major plus and thus should be something to consider when looking for potential targets.
Silva, Aguero, Yaya and Mata would be immense together. And if Tevez decides to do a 180 in his attitude, add him to that already devastating mix.
I fully understand and appreciate our interest in Nasri, but if it's him instead of Mata... well I just don't get it.
-- Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:54 am --
Dax777 said:Mancini's understanding of English is not that complexed, and if you listened to it in context, I believe it is fair to say he was trying to express the commonality of spoken language between the 2.
That's crystal-clearly the case.
Do you think the inter play between Aguero and Silva was significanly aided by the fact they both speak Spanish? It's about knowing where each other are, it's about footballing instinct, and I think that's what Mancini was trying to get across.
treasureox_MCFC
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They definitely enjoyed playing together... you could see that on their faces
Mat01706 said:Matt the Giant said:Mat01706 said:He didn't actually say that, he said they 'play in the same language', which I'm sure you'll agree is totally different...
On the contrary, - that was exactly what he was saying. Here is one example:
<a class="postlink" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14538330.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14538330.stm</a>
Look at about 1:00, when talking about how great Silva and Aguero is "they speak the same language"... and adds "like YaYa".
To me this clearly indicates that our manager sees a shared language as a major plus and thus should be something to consider when looking for potential targets.
Silva, Aguero, Yaya and Mata would be immense together. And if Tevez decides to do a 180 in his attitude, add him to that already devastating mix.
I fully understand and appreciate our interest in Nasri, but if it's him instead of Mata... well I just don't get it.
-- Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:54 am --
Dax777 said:Mancini's understanding of English is not that complexed, and if you listened to it in context, I believe it is fair to say he was trying to express the commonality of spoken language between the 2.
That's crystal-clearly the case.
Do you think the inter play between Aguero and Silva was significanly aided by the fact they both speak Spanish? It's about knowing where each other are, it's about footballing instinct, and I think that's what Mancini was trying to get across.
They definitely enjoyed playing together... you could see that on their faces
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You used the phrase "was significantly aided", so I assume you are talking about last night, right?
Well I doubt that the goals and the manner in which they were struck had much to do with them both speaking Spanish. Probably nothing.
But I do think however, that the support, the cheers, the encouragement they can give each other on the pitch and in the dressing room (and of course on the spare time) is of a very significant importance in their potential future link-up.
Also, if they have a natural communication it will obviously become easier for them to do what you mentioned in your post, to get to know each others moves.
A manager can only do so much, and players themselves need to do a lot of work on their part in order to 'gel' as a group.
And I am not suggesting Mata only because he also speak Spanish, but it is of course a contributing factor. Mata and Silva are already very close friends and played wonderfully well together for Valencia.
SIlva is by far our best player, and most important I'd say. Without him we are very much weakened.
So, the way I see it we 1) need to keep him happy on and off the pitch, make him like his stay in England and Manchester, on the pitch, socially and in private. Mata would tick those boxes.
We also need someone to step in when Silva is having a day off for various reasons. Mata would be the perfect choice for this.
To summarize; I think a shared cultural and geographical background is a very important aspect when it comes to making players "find each other".
And the fact the the best football nation by far in the world right now is Spain, with Argentina also high up on that list, makes it reasonable to assume picking up players from those countries might be a good idea.
Mat01706 said:Do you think the inter play between Aguero and Silva was significanly aided by the fact they both speak Spanish? It's about knowing where each other are, it's about footballing instinct, and I think that's what Mancini was trying to get across.
You used the phrase "was significantly aided", so I assume you are talking about last night, right?
Well I doubt that the goals and the manner in which they were struck had much to do with them both speaking Spanish. Probably nothing.
But I do think however, that the support, the cheers, the encouragement they can give each other on the pitch and in the dressing room (and of course on the spare time) is of a very significant importance in their potential future link-up.
Also, if they have a natural communication it will obviously become easier for them to do what you mentioned in your post, to get to know each others moves.
A manager can only do so much, and players themselves need to do a lot of work on their part in order to 'gel' as a group.
And I am not suggesting Mata only because he also speak Spanish, but it is of course a contributing factor. Mata and Silva are already very close friends and played wonderfully well together for Valencia.
SIlva is by far our best player, and most important I'd say. Without him we are very much weakened.
So, the way I see it we 1) need to keep him happy on and off the pitch, make him like his stay in England and Manchester, on the pitch, socially and in private. Mata would tick those boxes.
We also need someone to step in when Silva is having a day off for various reasons. Mata would be the perfect choice for this.
To summarize; I think a shared cultural and geographical background is a very important aspect when it comes to making players "find each other".
And the fact the the best football nation by far in the world right now is Spain, with Argentina also high up on that list, makes it reasonable to assume picking up players from those countries might be a good idea.
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I think Mata is exactly what we need for the Team.... Im hoping each day that we will be seriously linked with him... Better option than Nasri IMO
I think Mata is exactly what we need for the Team.... Im hoping each day that we will be seriously linked with him... Better option than Nasri IMO
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Bad news... in fact horrible news.
LoveCity said:Chelsea bid rejected for Mata and they're going back with a 29m bid while upping their bid for Modric.
*gulp*
Bad news... in fact horrible news.
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Nah, they'll only sign one of the two.
Matt the Giant said:LoveCity said:Chelsea bid rejected for Mata and they're going back with a 29m bid while upping their bid for Modric.
*gulp*
Bad news... in fact horrible news.
Nah, they'll only sign one of the two.
Re: Juan Mata is a must
They seriously need a new face in the midfield. Essien is out Lampard is nearly past it, Mikel has personal problems now and not that good anyway Ramires is OK but not great.
If they would fail to bring in a new midfielder that would be great to City and all their rivals too.
I feel Modric will be theirs in less than two weeks. Redknapp last time confessed maybe it's better to let Modric go. They just waited with it to make the price bigger they know very well that in the last few days the prices can be higher if a rich club reallywants someone.
(Same what Arsenal doing with Nasri)
(Torres first offer was 35 m pounds and it finished at 50 !)
They seriously need a new face in the midfield. Essien is out Lampard is nearly past it, Mikel has personal problems now and not that good anyway Ramires is OK but not great.
If they would fail to bring in a new midfielder that would be great to City and all their rivals too.
I feel Modric will be theirs in less than two weeks. Redknapp last time confessed maybe it's better to let Modric go. They just waited with it to make the price bigger they know very well that in the last few days the prices can be higher if a rich club reallywants someone.
(Same what Arsenal doing with Nasri)
(Torres first offer was 35 m pounds and it finished at 50 !)
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I take it Twatini's bullshit rules don't apply to Chelsea or Liverpool for that matter.
LoveCity said:Chelsea bid rejected for Mata and they're going back with a 29m bid while upping their bid for Modric.
*gulp*
I take it Twatini's bullshit rules don't apply to Chelsea or Liverpool for that matter.
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be interesting to see about psg as well mate?spacecadet said:LoveCity said:Chelsea bid rejected for Mata and they're going back with a 29m bid while upping their bid for Modric.
*gulp*
I take it Twatini's bullshit rules don't apply to Chelsea or Liverpool for that matter.
Chippy_boy
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Agreed. Like you could see it with Silva and Tevez... who also happens to speak Spanish.
It's only natural that you buddy up with people with whom you have things in common, and being able to speak the same language is probably the strongest bond of all.
treasureox_MCFC said:Mat01706 said:Matt the Giant said:On the contrary, - that was exactly what he was saying. Here is one example:
<a class="postlink" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14538330.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14538330.stm</a>
Look at about 1:00, when talking about how great Silva and Aguero is "they speak the same language"... and adds "like YaYa".
To me this clearly indicates that our manager sees a shared language as a major plus and thus should be something to consider when looking for potential targets.
Silva, Aguero, Yaya and Mata would be immense together. And if Tevez decides to do a 180 in his attitude, add him to that already devastating mix.
I fully understand and appreciate our interest in Nasri, but if it's him instead of Mata... well I just don't get it.
-- Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:54 am --
That's crystal-clearly the case.
Do you think the inter play between Aguero and Silva was significanly aided by the fact they both speak Spanish? It's about knowing where each other are, it's about footballing instinct, and I think that's what Mancini was trying to get across.
They definitely enjoyed playing together... you could see that on their faces
Agreed. Like you could see it with Silva and Tevez... who also happens to speak Spanish.
It's only natural that you buddy up with people with whom you have things in common, and being able to speak the same language is probably the strongest bond of all.
spacecadet
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You're right mate- Media only interested in City because all their beloved teams are running for cover.richards30 said:be interesting to see about psg as well mate?spacecadet said:LoveCity said:Chelsea bid rejected for Mata and they're going back with a 29m bid while upping their bid for Modric.
*gulp*
I take it Twatini's bullshit rules don't apply to Chelsea or Liverpool for that matter.
BoyBlue_1985
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And anzi machakalalalalala or whatever it is
richards30 said:be interesting to see about psg as well mate?spacecadet said:LoveCity said:Chelsea bid rejected for Mata and they're going back with a 29m bid while upping their bid for Modric.
*gulp*
I take it Twatini's bullshit rules don't apply to Chelsea or Liverpool for that matter.
And anzi machakalalalalala or whatever it is
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Be amazing to see those two playing in the same team!! Rumours were that AVB was bringing Moutinho with him to Chelsea aswell, but I dont know what happened to that
LoveCity said:Chelsea bid rejected for Mata and they're going back with a 29m bid while upping their bid for Modric.
*gulp*
Be amazing to see those two playing in the same team!! Rumours were that AVB was bringing Moutinho with him to Chelsea aswell, but I dont know what happened to that
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I very rarely watch Valencia , but I saw them against Liverpool and I saw Mata control a cross field pass majestically , in a way that looked impossible. Just from that I knew he was a quality , quality player. Whoever gets him will be signing a superstar , he is very similar to Silva in the way he passes and moves around the pitch. I hope he stays in Spain because I don't wanna see anyone over here take him ..... unless it was us.
I very rarely watch Valencia , but I saw them against Liverpool and I saw Mata control a cross field pass majestically , in a way that looked impossible. Just from that I knew he was a quality , quality player. Whoever gets him will be signing a superstar , he is very similar to Silva in the way he passes and moves around the pitch. I hope he stays in Spain because I don't wanna see anyone over here take him ..... unless it was us.