Keir Starmer

city2 said:
This **** goes around Jewish communities and says how sorry he is for the atrocities happening in this country but this **** is the main reason these atrocities are happening in the first place by letting all these fuckers into this country
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Golders Green attacker came to the UK 1992/1993 they think, as a child.

Crumpsall attacker came to the UK in 2005, again when he was about 15.

Unless Starmer has a DeLorean, I’m not sure how you expect him to stop these people coming.
 
city2 said:
This **** goes around Jewish communities and says how sorry he is for the atrocities happening in this country but this **** is the main reason these atrocities are happening in the first place by letting all these fuckers into this country
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Fucking hell. What a daft post.
 
ballbag said:
Fucking hell. What a daft post.
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It is, but the sentiment is not completely bonkers.

If you step back from the individuals involved and look at how Britain has changed over the last 40 years or so, it's clear to see that there has been a kind of liberal progressive consensus amongst the political elites, regardless of party, certainly post Thatcher, that runs through Major's one nation Toryism through to New Labour, Cameron's Con/Lib slop through to Truss and even Johnson and it's the idea of Global Britain, the idea that people are entirely interchangeable, that it is desirable that folk come in or not driven solely by the push and pull of economics, our desire to grow GDP, our tax revenue or the politics of morality as with asylum seekers.

I make no assertion as to whether this is a good thing or a bad thing but what I would assert is it cannot be denied.

Starmer just happens to be Johnny on the spot, the latest example of this mindset.
 
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BigJoe#1 said:
Are there any updated figures as to how the one in - one out policy/initiative is going? It's all gone a bit quiet lately....
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After all those gangs have been smashed I guess it's going marvellously.

BTW I had a little time out due to some sensitive soul taking umbrage. But you'll be pleased to know your regular punchbag is back, so punch away :-)
 
The perfect fumble said:
It is, but the sentiment is not completely bonkers.

If you step back from the individuals involved and look at how Britain has changed over the last 40 years or so, it's clear to see that there has been a kind of liberal progressive consensus amongst the political elites, regardless of party, certainly post Thatcher, that runs through Major's one nation Toryism through to New Labour, Cameron's Con/Lib slop through to Truss and even Johnson and it's the idea of Global Britain, the idea that people are entirely interchangeable, that it is desirable that folk come in or not driven solely by the push and pull of economics, our desire to grow GDP, our tax revenue or the politics of morality as with asylum seekers.

I make no assertion as to whether this is a good thing or a bad thing but what I would assert is it cannot be denied.

Starmer just happens to be Johnny on the spot, the latest example of this mindset.
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And there’s the eye opening contradiction that is hiding in plain sight. The RW globalists had the very thing they wanted, but were also the champions of Brexit. They thus persuaded the largely disenfranchised, that Europe was the cause of all their ills and leaving it would be a cure all. At the same they had to fill any void with a different demographic, whilst stuffing their own pockets with cash.
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
At the same they had to fill any void with a different demographic, whilst stuffing their own pockets with cash.
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What cash was that exactly? If you're referring to PPE failings, what percentage of right wing supporters do you think benefitted from that? 0.00001% or 0.000001%?

Or did you mean some other cash that us right wing supporters are all rolling in. If so I'd like you know where I can get some.
 
Chippy_boy said:
What cash was that exactly? If you're referring to PPE failings, what percentage of right wing supporters do you think benefitted from that? 0.00001% or 0.000001%?

Or did you mean some other cash that us right wing supporters are all rolling in. If so I'd like you know where I can get some.
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I’m assuming you’re not a billionaire backer of Brexit or a media owner living abroad but slagging off Blighty at every opportunity and would, therefore be exempt from my generalisation. I can only presume you didn’t read my comment properly, otherwise you’d have known that.
 
The man is obviously intelligent so surely he must realise that his position is untenable and probably has been for some time. Therefore you have to ask why he's hanging on. He doesn't need the money so why?
It probably won't make a difference to the future of labour though i think they've totally lost the trust of the majority of the electorate now.
 
Delusional, won an election due to the absolute shit show the conservatives caused and now has made the country far worse than even some of his biggest critics could have imagined. However the irony is plenty on here want to defend him… dont worry we will keep living with your shit decisions.
 
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Hopefully he'll balls this out. Absolutely couldn't give a fuck about him but I really don't think we need to be changing leaders again.
He's a thick skinned fucker so it shouldn't be too for him to cling onto power.
 
It's the arrogance I can't stand.

His party has just been given a drubbing, thousands of Labour councillors removed under his leadership and he STILL thinks he's the guy to turn things around before 2029!? Every opinion poll suggests otherwise, every commentator points to him as being the problem in Labour, but does he listen?

He has to go, there's still enough time for Labour to regroup, rethink their direction and policies, regain the trust of those they used to represent and prevent a calamity at the next general election.
The longer he lingers, the more difficult the rebuild.
 
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