Kylian Mbappe

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  1. Lancet Fluke

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    I think the point can be widened to all defensive players. Goalkeepers, CBs, FBs, and DMs. Everyone thinks they should go for peanuts for some reason which is bollocks as they're all just as crucial as any other player on the pitch imo. Also there are so few genuinely good defenders around at the moment, i don't see why anyone would think they should be half the price of attackers.
     
  2. J_MCFC21

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    Players values are often forgotten when they perform consistently, but could also work against the team if they under perform, risks we have to gamble on, if its seen worthwhile by the manager and if we want the best players and to become one of the top teams.
     
  3. domalino

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    They're among the most influential players on the pitch these days, as long as you've got a solid midfield base, a good pair of fullbacks can make an OK attack look great and cover a multitude of defensive issues. Last season they were simultaneously our biggest defensive weakness and the flaw in the attack, to the point where I genuinely think if we'd only bought the 3 fullbacks this summer, we'd still be clear favourites for the league, even with Bravo/Caballero in goal.

    Then you throw in the scarcity of good full backs and it's a miracle they aren't priced like strikers really.

    You do have a point about Shaw's fee as well, but we should be used to that by now. I'm more amused than annoyed this window by people talking about the spending as you've got managers like Klopp talking about crazy spending while desperately trying to spend 200m but failing because the upper management can't get deals done with Leipzig and Saints.
     

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  4. J_MCFC21

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    Anyone else think the whole noise from PSG for Mbappe was to force Monaco to sell them Fabinho? Kinda like saying give us Fabinho or we take both.

    Been a slow day for news on mbappe :D
     
  5. ADegenerate

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    I can see this POV. What do you think happens when aguero goes? How much you think the top forward will be going for?
     
  6. Zin 'messiah' Zimmer

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    Maccy Ds is relatively quick, id afford yourself at least an extra hour or 2!
     
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    I try not to let the pillocks in the media get to me and I want to decimate the opposition purely for the fun of it but there's no denying a that sticking to our many detractors would be a bonus.

    No comparable option to Vinnie is a worry: I don't think it is possible to over estimate his importance to us. I am optimistic though that we have enough with the new full backs and keeper to mean that Vinnie can safely be rested on a regular basis, which may help to keep him available when we really need him but I'd rather not have the constant worry that he might breakdown at any minute.

    I have no doubt that if we added Mbappe and VVD to what we have, we'd have to try really hard to screw up in order not to win the league and that does make one wonder why we just don't go and splash that cash. Just as I will always wonder - and I've heard various stories - why we didn't go big in the market after the first title win, when we could have left everyone grasping in our trail if we had. Didn't we learn?
     
  8. Metalartin

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    That's true we will need a replacement sooner or later but that's 2 years off... there is not just one scenario that can happen, I know what people are fearing: Mbappé goes from strength to strength and starts looking every bit like a future Ballon D' Or contender in that time and nobody else emerges or prices continue to rise and we can't afford a player that does emerge.

    As Pep alluded to in his latest conference it simply can't keep rising at the rate it's doing something will have to give... the adage that players are only worth what clubs are willing to pay works both ways(clubs will start talking themselves out of deals sooner or later asking too much... if Real Madrid are spitting their coffee out at what's being asked I think we need to take notice). If we miss out on Mbappé I think we will be fine personally, we can take it easier next summer on our spending and save up for a splurge(unless we unearth a gem or an academy player really steps up) when Aguero does leave.
     
  9. Chippy_boy

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    Funnily enough, the league winners nearly always have either the best or 2nd best goals conceded record.

    It's like a solid defence is the base, from which you can mount a successful campaign. Giving you the ability to grind out 1-0 wins and pick up points even when not at your best. History shows you simply do not win the league with Keegan-like "we'll score more than you".

    If we'd defended properly last season, it would have been a while load more competitive than it was.

    We need a Kompany backup much more than another striker, imo.
     
  10. richards30

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    Agreed. We should get VVD in asap and be done with it
     
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