L'Equipe report that Guardiola has met with United

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Pablo1 said:
Honestly mate, I just want to see some kind of plan and a bit of cohesion on the pitch. I want to see us play and not go away thinking we must have not bothered too much with training the previous week.
If that happens I reckon the team's good enough for the rest to take care of itself.
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Same,a plan and shape will do me for a start,getting the basics back then see if pep is the messiah from then on
 
If these players are as good as many believe them to be, they shouldn't need Pep to motivate them, there's an issue with the players.

If Pep arrives, and doesn't immediately take us to the top of the league, and keep us there, many on here won't care to give him some time, because already high expectation levels, will be inflated further.
 
cleavers said:
If these players are as good as many believe them to be, they shouldn't need Pep to motivate them, there's an issue with the players.

If Pep arrives, and doesn't immediately take us to the top of the league, and keep us there, many on here won't care to give him some time, because already high expectation levels, will be inflated further.
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It's a vain hope that he will get time before the threads pep out start but we know this place only too well
 
KippaxCitizen said:
I'd call it a major rebuild. And certainly the biggest test of his credentials to date, by a mile.

Four full backs over the age of 30. A defence who haven't been drilled defensively for three years. An injury prone (to the point of being unreliable) captain. A once star of the team, the lynchpin of every passing move, who is now well past his best. A couple of okay tricky wingers with pace but for me won't be anywhere near good enough for what Guardiola would want (Sterling and Navas). Two attacking players that do nothing defensively (Silva and de Bruyne).

That leaves Guardiola with Kun, Hart and Fernandinho that don't need any working on or replacing. I think Guardiola will like Delph too but he really needs to work on retaining the ball better.

Everyone else in our entire squad needs to improve beyond belief, need to get used to working a fucking damn sight harder, need to get fitter or need to change their ways or none of them will still be here in three years time.
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That's the way I read it as well although who knows what his coaching will do to improve some of the players deficiencies. I do think he will give everyone a fair chance as long as they display 100% work ethic in return. That alone might mean a couple are given the big 'E' smartish.
 
You can be sure when Pep joins us we will play with a lot more intensity all over the pitch. It isn't a point of expecting to win every game, but how we go about playing in games.
 
M18CTID said:
That Kraftwerker on Rag Cafe is a fucking bitter ****.
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Mate, just enjoy it. That forum is absolutely gold at the moment and has been for a good while. The bitterest are always the ones from furthest away. I think they believe it gives them top red status.
 
oakiecokie said:
Come on you could have cut and pasted it for us.Always enjoy a good laugh at those idiots.
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Sorry mate - here ya go http://www.redcafe.net/threads/l-equipe-guardiola-has-met-with-man-utd-directors.413786/page-16 Usual hackneyed cliches of empty seats, corrupt regimes, and human rights abuses. Funny that, because in recent years United have been sponsored by the national airlines of both Turkey and Russia and the last time I looked neither had a particularly good human rights record. Oh, and some shite about City being nowhere near the top if it wasn't for the sheikh. Yes Kraftwerker, we get that but perhaps you should look a little closer to home because if it wasn't for John Henry Davies, James Gibson, and the goodwill of MCFC, United probably wouldn't even exist you fucking gimp!
 
M18CTID said:
Sorry mate - here ya go http://www.redcafe.net/threads/l-equipe-guardiola-has-met-with-man-utd-directors.413786/page-16 Usual hackneyed cliches of empty seats, corrupt regimes, and human rights abuses. Funny that, because in recent years United have been sponsored by the national airlines of both Turkey and Russia and the last time I looked neither had a particularly good human rights record. Oh, and some shite about City being nowhere near the top if it wasn't for the sheikh. Yes Kraftwerker, we get that but perhaps you should look a little closer to home because if it wasn't for John Henry Davies, James Gibson, and the goodwill of MCFC, United probably wouldn't even exist you fucking gimp!
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Whoever our Gentleman Jim is on the Cafe is doing a grand job.That fucking deluded idiot Kraftwork is just like thrush.
 
cleavers said:
If these players are as good as many believe them to be, they shouldn't need Pep to motivate them, there's an issue with the players.

If Pep arrives, and doesn't immediately take us to the top of the league, and keep us there, many on here won't care to give him some time, because already high expectation levels, will be inflated further.
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There's a reason why the top managers earn mega money and someone like Pep is so sought after. Getting a hugely talented bunch of multi millionaires to perform to their maximum, to be fully focused and highly motivated at all times, and to accept that they are part of a team and need to be disciplined and self sacrificing on occasions for the greater good, is not as easy as your first line suggests. They have to have total trust and belief in the manager and it's my opinion that our squad don't at the moment, and to be perfectly honest I can understand why. Those of you who believe we are where we are today because the players aint all that or are mentally weak are entitled to your opinion, but I strongly suspect they will be barely recognisable when Pep gets his hands on them. This is the difference having a top manager in place can make and those of you who are dubious about this are in for a pleasant surprise.
 
hgblue said:
There's a reason why the top managers earn mega money and someone like Pep is so sought after. Getting a hugely talented bunch of multi millionaires to perform to their maximum, to be fully focused and highly motivated at all times, and to accept that they are part of a team and need to be disciplined and self sacrificing on occasions for the greater good, is not as easy as your first line suggests. They have to have total trust and belief in the manager and it's my opinion that our squad don't at the moment, and to be perfectly honest I can understand why. Those of you who believe we are where we are today because the players aint all that or are mentally weak are entitled to your opinion, but I strongly suspect they will be barely recognisable when Pep gets his hands on them. This is the difference having a top manager in place can make and those of you who are dubious about this are in for a pleasant surprise.
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Rewind 3 years and a lot on here were saying that same about Pellers on his arrival. Remember the intense pre season and everyone getting excited and how we would be fitter, faster and stronger than everyone else? Crying out loud we had people on here blubbing with joy after the first home game against Newcastle.

I'm all for Pep and yeah I think he will make a difference but let's not go down that rabbit hole again.
 
mad4city said:
That article is a master class in positive spin; making it appear that their beloved Manyoo have, at all times, been up to speed with (if not in control of) Guardiola's destiny.





"They coulda got him too, if it wasn't for those pesky Spaniards."
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That article also has a great point.

Premier League regulations mean if Guardiola had signed an official document stating his intention to become City’s manager on July 1 this year that paperwork would have had to be registered with the FA within seven days of being signed
 
BobKowalski said:
Rewind 3 years and a lot on here were saying that same about Pellers on his arrival. Remember the intense pre season and everyone getting excited and how we would be fitter, faster and stronger than everyone else? Crying out loud we had people on here blubbing with joy after the first home game against Newcastle.

I'm all for Pep and yeah I think he will make a difference but let's not go down that rabbit hole again.
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You mean the preseason before we won a double and tied the goals coring record for the premier league?

Yeah, that excitement was so misplaced wasn't it?!
 
Pep isn't going to manage United. He only manages top teams on the top of each league with at least 5 top players.
 
domalino said:
You mean the preseason before we won a double and tied the goals coring record for the premier league?

Yeah, that excitement was so misplaced wasn't it?!
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Ohhhh. You mean Pep has to win at least 2 trophies during the first year in order to match Pelles record?
 
Reallyblue said:
Ohhhh. You mean Pep has to win at least 2 trophies during the first year in order to match Pelles record?
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No?

I'm saying people were excited before the Pellegrini season and it was deserved excitement because we were fantastic.

The person I replied to seemed to think we shouldn't have been excited by that preseason.
 
city saint said:
I rate pep highly and think he will turn us into a real force, but the way some people are talking about him they don't expect us to ever lose or draw once he gets here.i think a lot of people underestimate how competitive the premier league really is.pelle does get stuff wrong but I think he s no where near as bad as some make out although he is a bit wenger like in his stubbornness
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I hate the phrase "will take us to the next level" but that's exactly what Pep will do.
His style of play will force our opponents to bin the usual tactics of high press/intimidate/defend deep breakaway and get a set piece goal that "finds us out" at the moment.
Pep will already have a good idea of which players can contribute to his style of play and which ones need to be added. Some current favourites may be casualties of this.
The PL will have to rethink how they play us next year as all current bets are off.
 
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