Liverpool fans throwing missiles from South Stand Level 3

petrusha said:
The initial reaction to Hillsborough among City fans at Blackburn was definitely that Scousers were at it again. That was in the first half, when people with radios were passing on that the match had been suspended and the first reports started coming through that some people may have died.

It became clear fairly quickly that the numbers of confirmed deaths were rising fast and something altogether different had happened. I remember being on a train back from Blackburn to Victoria after our match, and some guy with a radio was relaying what was being said at that stage.

At this point, correspondents at the ground in Sheffield were suggesting that there'd been dozens of deaths, and passengers throughout the entire carriage on my train, almost all of whom had been at Ewood that afternoon, sat in shocked silence. Normally on the way home after a heavy away defeat, you'd expect a lot of noise from angry post-match recriminations. Not that day. It really didn't seem to matter.

I therefore would have no wish to mock the Hillsborough tragedy. As football fans who travelled round the country in the 1980s, a lot of us, I think, had a feeling of there but for the grace of God when we heard, read and saw what had happened in Sheffield. The subsequent cover-up and smearing of fans involved was a truly shameful episode in the history of our country's justice system.

Nonetheless, I think the excellent post above by @shackattack above has it right. The tragedy is used by some to try to shut down legitimate criticism of Liverpool fans from outside that club and its fanbase. No matter how bad their behaviour, they seem to justify everything with reference to Hillsborough chants, even songs that don't specifically reference and aren't intended to refer to those events.

I don't think that, in the last few days, City have handled events surrounding Thursday's match very well, to put it mildly. But I do have some sympathy for MCFC when our club, our players and staff as well as our fans have suffered what utter savages from the LFC support have dished out, only for the media to run with a prevailing narrative of an understandable Scouse reaction provoked by Hillsborough chants (when these have been sparse or non-existent, with reliance invariably placed on a wilful misinterpretation of the 'Always the victims' chant).

I share the dismay among many posters on here at what seem weak efforts from our club in the ongoing PR battle over these issues. On the other hand, we face a rival club and support whose hard-faced lack of shame for episodes of significant violence is genuinely staggering. And we face a media whose disinterest in the truth, born of an unquestioning servility to all things Liverpool FC, is truly contemptible.

Anyway, Merry Christmas to all. Except Liverpool FC and their dickhead apologists.
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I was fully focused on the game and how bad stuttering, injury hit City were with left footed Gerry Taggart completely lost at right back, passing just about everything into touch with his left. Blackburn striker Andy Kennedy flicked the Vs at us.

I turned on my radio at half time as I wanted to know what was going on in the Semis, particularly Everton v Norwich as my Evertonian mate had gone to Villa Park where that match was held. What I heard was the very sober toned of the late great Peter Jones saying that possibly ten people had died. As bad as the scoreline was, it didn't seem to matter to most people after that, except for the pissed up lads who were messing about on train home.

My feelings towards Liverpool went from admiration pre Heysel though wariness on my 1st away trip there a few weeks before, to disgust at what happened and how one of their directors tried to blame Chelsea.

As you say, their total refusal to take responsibility and lack of shame for their vile acts and their penchant for twisting to deflect is still staggering even by their low standards of behaviour. They have started so much trouble over and beyond the usual "welcome" on Merseyside. Brendan Rodgers with his shameful incitement "We'll unleash our fans" before the Klanfield game towards the end of 13-14 on the day City fans and the club went over and beyond in supporting them over Hillsborough followed by hostile behaviour and attacks on even families, disabled people etc after the game. Klopp has been just as bad. All this behaviour overlooked by a compliant media with pound signs in their eyes and prejudiced attitudes towards our club’s owners.

None of their behaviour changes what happened at Hillsborough. Whatever pressure was put on the authorities, those who sadly died that day and their families have been the genuine victims of one of the greatest miscarriages of justice in this country.

Equally, none of that miscarriage of justice is an excuse for their unchecked, feral behaviour.



Merry Christmas to you.
 
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urban genie said:
I actually don't know many city fans in daily life bar here and social media that still go on about the bus until it is brought up or we play them.

The animosity started in 2013/14 and is because they have been closest to us for trophy challenges for that year and then the 5 years, if either of us were finishing around 10th every season and going out of cups early the other set of fans would be back to pre 2013 ways of thinking and we seeing them as no more than an annoying history obsessed cult and and town full of scallies, the bus incident would have been filled alongside all the other bellend behaviour over the last 40 yrs they have got up to and hardly mentioned as we would be too busy being in arguements with whatever fan base were challenging us for titles.

This rivally will disapear as soon as it started, for many Liverpool fans were considered a horrible notrite load of cunts for a long time, who would jump you on any visit and be cunts, they have been the 30+ years I have been going and the dozens of trips to anfiled made, and I will always think of them as dodgy cunts but the levels of anger between both set of fans will go amongst most once one of us isn't a trophy rival.

The rags on the other hand will always be the enemy no matter the division, oh and spurs are constantly cunts trophies or not
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My reason seems the favourite.
 
I know football forums can attract some of the weirdest elements of a fan base (present company excluded, of course), but a quick scan of theirs seems to show that a few spent their whole Christmas day painfully putting up a case for why injuring a teenage girl, and possibly scaring her off football for good, was actually Pep Guardiola's fault for complaining that coins were thrown at him. Fuck me.
 
Colin Bells Holdall said:
What get‘s me about the graffiti is that LFC releasing the information gives the graffiti more publicity.
Maybe they should have just painted over it.
The person who did it has got far more publicity than they expected which would incentivise the scousers to be pissed off.
Now they may have released that information in a graffiti = smashing the City coach up so it’s all square but that is not how things have worked out.
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As said b4....I don't know any city fan that would refer to them as kopites. It's not a term used in manc...kopshites maybe, but not that. Plus the handwriting was so neat!!! I've always smelt a rat.
 
mancityvstoke said:
Everton song:

Oh we hate Bill Shankly
And we hate St John
But most of all we hate Big Ron
And we'll hang the Kopites one by one
On the banks of the Royal Blue Mersey

So to hell with Liverpool and Rangers too
We'll throw them all in the Mersey
And we'll fight fight fight
With all our might
For the lads in the Royal Blue Jersey
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Sang to the tune of an IRA song
 
Brightwell Bros. said:
I know football forums can attract some of the weirdest elements of a fan base (present company excluded, of course), but a quick scan of theirs seems to show that a few spent their whole Christmas day painfully putting up a case for why injuring a teenage girl, and possibly scaring her off football for good, was actually Pep Guardiola's fault for complaining that coins were thrown at him. Fuck me.
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I've not been on there for a long while, but while there is some attempt by the more sensible poster to put the blame firmly on the idiots, there are a few that seem to think it's entirely the fault of Abu Dhabi. Apparently they've been weaponised in order to deflect attention from AD human rights issues and is part of the mythical sports washing project. I'm not quite sure how they think that works to be honest.
 
What I don't understand is that not one steward was able to identify any fan throwing missiles, one of which at least was a flare, if I stood up holding one in level two at a home game I would have stewards around me in seconds. The club must have been able to see incidents on cctv yet no one was directed to the area.The club should be investigating these incidents as they happen. Someone could have lost their life while they watched on and did nothing.
 
creditunionhero said:
What I don't understand is that not one steward was able to identify any fan throwing missiles, one of which at least was a flare, if I stood up holding one in level two at a home game I would have stewards around me in seconds. The club must have been able to see incidents on cctv yet no one was directed to the area.The club should be investigating these incidents as they happen. Someone could have lost their life while they watched on and did nothing.
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There was no mention in the press of arrests being made during or after the Comminty sheild when flares and smoke bombs were held up and thrown on to the pitch during the Community Shield match by Liverpool fans. And this was after the Police, the PL, the FA and the clubs said they would clampdown on fans bringing pyrotechnics and smoke bombs into grounds after all the incidents at the end of last season.

The clubs and GMP are still investigating the incidents that happened on Thursday night, so let’s see in the coming weeks if they arrest and charge any Liverpool fans. I won’t hold my breath.

There won’t be any pictures released of any damage or graffiti done to the toilets in SSL3, if there is any? The toilets will be repaired and the graffiti will be cleaned off.

PS. I read 2 Liverpool fans were arrested for trying to bring pyrotechnics into the ground on Thursday.
 
They are sbsolutely loathed in Nottingham. Know several Forest fans and they all can't stand them, with good reason. Whatever spin the media put on Liverpool, those who know, know.

The Demise of Liverpool FC.

I watched it in a pub, which was a novelty in those days, as was the fact it was on a Friday if memory serves. And the pub was in Manchester, so when that goal went in it was absolutely buzzing. Plus pubs still had to shut at 11 so everyone just drank as fast as they could back in those days ...
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creditunionhero said:
What I don't understand is that not one steward was able to identify any fan throwing missiles, one of which at least was a flare, if I stood up holding one in level two at a home game I would have stewards around me in seconds. The club must have been able to see incidents on cctv yet no one was directed to the area.The club should be investigating these incidents as they happen. Someone could have lost their life while they watched on and did nothing.
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It's quite amazing how invisible the scroats are when they commit their offences, whether they are at Anfield or wherever.

The police never seem able to identify any of the perpetrators even when they are standing next to them whilst a coach gets seriously damaged, or watching them throw bricks, bottles of piss etc.

Did anybody get identified whilst the mayhem took place in Paris ?
 
Never seen so many variants of jft96 number plates as out here in Perth where private number plates are 10 a penny. Fucking get over it, 30odd yr old Irish lad has one, would have been about 1 when it happened. Surely the parents and relatives want everyone to shut the fk up about it so they can grieve in peace.
 
jrb said:
No other club would have come to close to Liverpool. It was City or 3 more PL titles for Liverpool. If the last 4 titles had been shared out by 4 PL clubs, Liverpool fans may have accepted that, but because it was City three times and Liverpool once, they are bitter about that, and their bitterness has grown, especially as City have denied Liverpool a PL title by 1 point on 2 separate occasions.

What also irks Liverpool fans is not being at Anfield to celebrate Liverpool’s first title in 30 years, and Liverpool’s first PL title due to the Covid lockdown. Instead Liverpool fans had to watch the PL trophy being lifted by Henderson at Anfield on the TV, whilst we have celebrated every PL title win on the pitch at the Etihad, especially when the title race went to the last game of the season and both teams played at home.
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All our recent title wins have been special, momentous occasions, we are so lucky.

Compare to some of the Rag ones under Taggart where they stumbled to 80 odd points with dour 1 nils and no competition.
 
urban genie said:
US Marines song is it not, same one rags use
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the clue is in the line to hell with Liverpool and Rangers too
Don't forget back then Everton fans were all Catholics and Liverpool Protestant.
deep rooted, thank god it is not the case today
 
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